Disclaimer: This is a rant
Over my many years of buying cards on ebay I've always just accepted the fact that you really don't know what you're getting, condition wise. It's always a c-r-a-pshoot when it comes to condition. Sellers claim MINT or NR-MT all the time but then you get the card with a good amount of edge chipping or a soft corner or too...which they failed to mention in the listing. That along with the lack of great pictures of the card, you're left just hoping it's going to be in NR-MT condition. Only to be burned upon arrival.
Maybe I'm too picky about my cards, maybe it's just me, is it? Does it not bother anyone else when they receive a card that's not in the condition they were expecting it to be in? Isn't condition king in this hobby? The slightest amount of damage on modern cards can severely bring down the value of a card, right?
With that said, I have been pretty lax in my eBay feedback. I would usually always leave positive feedback and just let it go. I find that I can no longer do that. Over the past 2-3 months I have been have very bad luck with eBay buys. From the Ken Stabler Classics Auto/Jsy to the Tom Brady Jsy card that was torn...and it's only continued. I have gotten refunds and returned 2-3 cards in the last 2 months. My latest mailday featured a Tomlinson 07 TOTT Jsy/Auto 3/5 that I won for a great price of $27! I thought I had gotten deal. When the card came in, it saw that it had many little edge chips on the left and right edges. The camera flash helps hide these flaws based on the foils reflection of the flash when I photographed it. But in person, they are clear as day. Had the seller made me aware of this in their listing I might not have even bid and I surely would not have bid as much as I did. I was very surprised I got it for only $27 as I bid much more. I ended up leaving the seller neutral feedback and was frankly honest about how I felt in the comments. Here is the resulting conversation:
A little disappointing that you gave me neutral feedback! Wish I would have told you that I bought this card for well over a $100...you robbed me...Thanks alot
I did not force you to post the listing or list it without a reseve price...those were your choices. Based on your listing and how YOU set it up, I happen to win the auction at the price I did. I also did not keep anyone else out in ebay land from bidding higher than me.... it's called market demand and it's simply not there as it used to be in this hobby, considering the current economy. I did not 'rob' you. Secondly, don't list a card as nrmt when it clearly has edge chipping.
Your definitely not getting the point here...you won the card for a cheap price right? why complain that there were any flaws on it if you didnt even pay full price or BV for it? Its common sense...your the reason why society is the way it is! Enjoy your POSITIVE FEEDBACK I GAVE YOU!!!!! KARMA....
Seriously? Do you not realize how important card condition is in this hobby? The smallest chip, surface damage or soft corner degrads the value of a card severely. Maybe you don't get it, but you won't open you eyes to see that because you're too busy defending yourself because you choose to sell a card at a price you didn't see fit. However, considering the condition of the card, the price was just about right. Had I paid much more for it, it would have been negative feedback for an incorrect listing and damaged item. It also doesn't matter if I buy a card for 99 cents for 500 dollars, I want, as most any collecter wants, the card to be in perfect condition. Aside from 1950's vintage, any kind of damage, even the tintest ding on a corner will detract a buyer! Also, Beckett BV means nothing, those prices are so inflated, you must not know the state of this hobby. A card isn't worth it's BV, it's worth whatever the market demands, whatever someone is willing to pay, simple as that. Why people still value the BV listing perplexes me, no one pays BV for any card....because it's such an inflated price. I'm sorry you paid over $100 for this card and lost $75 on it, but that's not my fault. You choose to sell it, you choose to list it so cheap, you choose to list it without a reserve price of what you wanted to sell it for. I did not prevent any of the other millions of ebay users to bid more than me.... if you're upset you lost $75 on a card, don't pass that anger on me when it was you who choose to list it and sell it. Did you call to ###### and moan Beckett when you bought a J Russel Patch/Auto for $200 in 07 when they dropped the BV from $300 to $50? I doubt it...but it's the same logic you're giving me here.... Take the time to learn something from this... accusing a customer of robbing you and saying they are the reason for a decline in society is no way to run a business or treat a customer. Maybe you should stop playing the victim card.
Been in the hobby for over 20 years, you don't have to feed me everything you typed up! I know already...please, this whole conversation is purely based on the fact that you gave me neutral feedback for a great card that you paid nothing for...plain and simple! If i bought this same card from you and realized the corner wear, I still would have given you POSITIVE feedback...why, because I paid $20 for it....Happy Holidays to you too;)
I'm growing very tired of dealing with this. I will admit, I once did sell a Tony Romo patch to MJDA here that had a small crease around the patch window because the patch was so thick. It was hardly noticeable until it caught the light. I failed to make MJDA aware of it and he was not happy when he received the card. We did end up working out in so way or another and I ended up feeling pretty bad about it. Knowing that and knowing how I feel when I get this junk from eBay, I am very clear about any defects a card has now.
How do ya'll see this? Does condition matter to you? Are you honest and blunt with eBay sellers when you get a card not as you expected or do you just let it go?