Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 12:35 AM
WEll there are 2..
First one
- HEY WANA JOIN MY BRAKE
_ HEy wanna join my break
- HEy i got a group break, wanna join..
IF I do not post, do not message me about your breaks....and it is spelled Break!
2
I go into a thread and note a few cards of Interest. I say "hey, nice stuff, I am interested in so and so and this mango and that mango, lets try to work out some deals my friend". Now once I have posted that, i will usually hit you back with a pm within a few minutes when i can figure out what you collect (by reading your profile, signature, etc), if not I will pm you within a few longer minutes stating - hey bud, not sure what you collect or like, so hit me back".
It peeves me greatly when I get an almost immediate response stating either of the following............
"Sorry didn't see anything"
"Sorry , nothing"
didnt see anything thanx
now
in 45 nano seconds
where did you look?
My whole bucket with um, 200 scans plus?
DId you ask if I had any other cards unscanned (which most people here on tcc do)
Ask me perhaps if any pc is available? I have been known to trade pc?
H????????
This would be the proper response..
"Hey bud, I went through your bucket (after you actually went through it, don't just look at the first page and then blow me off, kinda rude) I didnt see anything I could use, but let me know what else you have un-scanned, if PC is ft, or you may have anything else incoming" Thank you in advance - potential trader..
Keep in mind I have 650 and counting here... I know how to make deals...
Read this!
j5
cardcrazed
Oct 27 2009, 01:23 AM
hey wanna join my BRAAK?????..........................
Justin
jaytucc
Oct 27 2009, 01:56 AM
I got a group brake........wondering if you wanna join.......btw i saw you have no good mangos in the bucket but i will be sure not to ask whats unscanned......since your 600+ trades dont really count you as a verified trader....btw if you do have something i like i strictly wanna only lowball you and you must send first
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 01:57 AM
I love you guys
j5
urbanmonk
Oct 27 2009, 05:06 AM
Politely tell the folks with the first issue that "spamming" their breaks is "frowned" apon here at TCC. If the same folks keep doing it, drop a CZT a PM and we will politely tell them to quit doing it.
The later folks I just don't let them get to me. I just try to remember it, and probably someday down the road they will have interest in something of mine and I can counter with "sorry didn't see anything" (w/o actually looking or asking if they have anything I collect)

Those folks don't really want to trade very much, so guess that is their own choice. Kinda like the folks that are only looking for "bigger players/ HOF" type folks for their unproven guys or semistars. Same kind of thing there, if I have those kinds of cards I'm not going to trade way down just to get a card of one of the guys I collect as I can usually go to the Bay and snag it rather cheaply most of the time.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 05:29 AM
First issue - not so bad, just seems lately that if I buy a card from someone, a random person who is hosting breaks assumes i am a paypal mountain ready to explode, hehehe....
SEcond issue - seems too common here. Example those said 2 members sent me Pm messages after making me look like the mean one, well if thats the case, I guess mr grinch found a way to make over 650 trades..
i say eat a mango! not a prune
j5
Stlouisrams1600
Oct 27 2009, 05:37 AM
if wez trad u can snd fisrt
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 05:42 AM
oh alex my lil fish stick
ps pm me your addy , i owe u a pwe full of fun for posting that mango resturant.
j5
Packers247
Oct 27 2009, 05:22 PM
i agree on the second issue
Soxarethechamps05
Oct 27 2009, 05:37 PM
I agree with both. I have a group break on here and I would never spam it. If they want to join they will post it in the thread and if they don't and the break never happens...o well that's life!
pspstatus
Oct 27 2009, 05:49 PM
I know what you mean about people not really checking the bucket and just saying "nothing sorry". There have been so many times when I have suspected people just gave a quick glance or didn't even check at all. If someone asks me to check their bucket, I go through that sucker fully because I know just maybe I'll find that rookie card that I've been needing or something that really strikes me. It's worth it to take the time.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 06:26 PM
HEy guys Thanx for all of the feedback.
I agree. I say from a hard lesson - check buckets and really do it. Say your doing it, really do it. A long time ago, I missed out on some huge deuce mccallister stuff because I "Checked the guys bucket" man did I learn......
as far as breaks go, I spend my money where I want to, I buy from reliable people such as Alex and Brenda 08 and Iron monkey - people I can trust. I have been in urbanmonk's break before as well, I trust him, I am in another break now involving some more chrome stuff - why - because the previous break went well and I was happy.....
If I want to spend my mangos, I will contact your fruit salad - No coconut in this ambrosia - get it :-)
northicehero99
Oct 27 2009, 07:11 PM
Johnny,
As for your first issue, Dwight addressed it, but please let the CZT know who is doing that and we can politely ask them to stop. Unfortunately, people running breaks are trying to fill them. Some of them because they left the better teams open and those are all taken, and nobody wants to get in because the teams left are the Redskins and Bucs, etc. It is at that point when they are trying to find someone to finish the deal and because they "know" you they ask you.
As for this you should feel somewhat happy as at least people like you enough to ask you to the "dance", even if you don't dance.

As for the other topic, I think people do that because they are either looking for something real specific or just don't want to move the item. Not sure but it is part of trading, so read it and move on. The more time we spend writing in topics like this, is the less time we actually spend looking for those cards we need. As RGBII would say "TRADE HARD".
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 07:24 PM
I don't think there is a card out there i don't need. I find it that when these issues are ignored, they get worse......Look at me as a um wizard of theology or something like that. PS - the first issue wasnt on tcc it was on aim so i cant spazz totally on here yet...
j
MVPujols
Oct 27 2009, 09:49 PM
What I hate is when you PM somebody about a couple GU or low-end auto's and they reply that they like the Mickey Mantle auto you have. A little bit of an exaggeration, but I think you guys get the point
Johnny Number 5
Oct 27 2009, 09:53 PM
QUOTE(MVPujols @ Oct 27 2009, 09:49 PM)
What I hate is when you PM somebody about a couple GU or low-end auto's and they reply that they like the Mickey Mantle auto you have. A little bit of an exaggeration, but I think you guys get the point

I see your point my friend...
that can be quite annoying as well.
j
Zimbow
Oct 27 2009, 10:27 PM
No way, its hilarious when someone wants a card 10times the original value. Its worth the chuckle.
edgerrin32
Oct 27 2009, 10:50 PM
i can say for me. if i say i will check your link/buckett or you list i will check it!!! when i look, i look at every page. sometimes i takes forrrrrrrrrrrever but i do it

. and if i say i will get back to you, i will. it might take a while but i will get back to you. thats just me though!
QUOTE
What I hate is when you PM somebody about a couple GU or low-end auto's and they reply that they like the Mickey Mantle auto you have. A little bit of an exaggeration, but I think you guys get the point smile.gif
and as for this, i think sometimes they might be meaning if they have a few more cards you might like. not always is someone trying to get a huge card for nothing. but i have seen some sales and trades where one person trade a boat load of good stuff or a lot of money for 1 card thats not worth the deal! but to each is own. if you want it bad enough you will go to the ends of the earth to find it!!!!
Gsil84
Oct 28 2009, 02:11 AM
I have said "nothing sorry" a few times lately.. one thing I hate is when you open some ones bucket and they have it broke down by team or brand.. Thats 26 or more pages of cards to look through and then they may have one or two cards per page.. It's easier if Im looking for an auto to look at the auto page or if Im looking for a jersey to look at a jersey page..
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 02:17 AM
hmmmmmmmm
Lew47
Oct 28 2009, 12:09 PM
If I click on a bucket and can't tell what a card is without enlarging the picture I don't usually look real hard.
adub4545
Oct 28 2009, 12:10 PM
QUOTE(Johnny Number 5 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:35 AM)
WEll there are 2..
First one
- HEY WANA JOIN MY BRAKE
_ HEy wanna join my break
- HEy i got a group break, wanna join..
IF I do not post, do not message me about your breaks....and it is spelled Break!
2
I go into a thread and note a few cards of Interest. I say "hey, nice stuff, I am interested in so and so and this mango and that mango, lets try to work out some deals my friend". Now once I have posted that, i will usually hit you back with a pm within a few minutes when i can figure out what you collect (by reading your profile, signature, etc), if not I will pm you within a few longer minutes stating - hey bud, not sure what you collect or like, so hit me back".
It peeves me greatly when I get an almost immediate response stating either of the following............
"Sorry didn't see anything"
"Sorry , nothing"
didnt see anything thanx
now
in 45 nano seconds
where did you look?
My whole bucket with um, 200 scans plus?
DId you ask if I had any other cards unscanned (which most people here on tcc do)
Ask me perhaps if any pc is available? I have been known to trade pc?
H????????
This would be the proper response..
"Hey bud, I went through your bucket (after you actually went through it, don't just look at the first page and then blow me off, kinda rude) I didnt see anything I could use, but let me know what else you have un-scanned, if PC is ft, or you may have anything else incoming" Thank you in advance - potential trader..
Keep in mind I have 650 and counting here... I know how to make deals...
Read this!
j5

I cannot agree with you more! ^5!
Finally someone with the "peanuts" to say it!
THANKS!
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 12:44 PM
QUOTE(adub4545 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:10 PM)
I cannot agree with you more! ^5!
Finally someone with the "peanuts" to say it!
THANKS!
snkpoct137
Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM
and when someone has almost 5 pages worth of people asking about a card and them saying i dont like anything and just for a $40 auto, its obvious they arent gonna trade it and are just looking to tell people no.
benshobbies
Oct 28 2009, 02:55 PM
My mango, I'm understanding where you're at. I have 30 trades, far less than your 600+ Mangos madness, and here are some things that I have to get off my chest:
1. When people are interested in card x, and I make a reasonable offer of A, and the person who is interested in X never responds. I mean, in that case a declined offer would be better than none at all.
2. When people ask "Can I send it in a PWE?" People think that just because it is an insert or a numbered card it is not important. This is especially irksome when the card is PC for me. Then they decide that they don't have to send in a bubble mailer. I send all my trades in a bubble with dc. I don't feel comfortable doing anything else.
3. Paying extra postage for a trade that the sending person didn't put on. Someone slaps two stamps on a bubble when it really costs more, it just irks me.
and I want to say something else. I have given people lowball offers, or requested higher end cards and made that mistake for a few reasons. I look through their bucket and all they have is mickey mantles autos or Emmitt Smith patches, stuff from National Treasures & Premier. I work at McDonalds and can't afford that stuff. Why would you ask for a low-mid end GU and not have anything of equal value to offer for it?
Thanks for posting this thread my mango. Hope you have some many fruitful trades. I hope my PM I sent you about my new bucket didn't offend you. I got some good mangos for you!
stormfan7
Oct 28 2009, 04:34 PM
I am one that will be guilty of the second one at times. But I DO check every page of other people's buckets or entire tradelist.
I don't usually try to trade for other 'trade bait'. I want to trade for cards that I want to keep. When posting with my tradelist I usually state what I want and also say that I will look through buckets. You never know what you might come across when looking.
To go along with the High End thing, I don't like the people that ask for high end cards and then don't have anything besides low-end in return. I think that annoys me the most.
Another one is that some buckets have different sections like "PC", "HTG", and then their "Tradelist". I have absolutely no problem with these. For example, some will trade their PC. I have items in my PC that I will trade but I will probably need a PC item back in return.
It's the HTG & Tradelist that sometimes make me angry. If you look at my bucket, I don't have a HTG section because none of my cards are really HTG. But it irks me when someone will ask for a superstar card such as Manning, Brady, AP, etc. and when you like something in their 'HTG' section, they will decline it because it is 'HTG'.
Sorry, this is long, but almost finished...the last statement goes back in turn to my first point. If your asking for a card of a stud player and you don't have anything that would fit in my PC, chances are I won't make a trade and that's when I would say something like, "sorry, nothing I could use at this time." I know it may seem a little rude, but as I said, why would I want to trade 'down' on tradebait (i.e. Manning or Brady for Rivers or Cutler) when it's not going to get me anywhere with my PC and have me spending more time on postage and re-doing my bucket
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 28 2009, 04:48 PM
QUOTE(adub4545 @ Oct 28 2009, 01:10 PM)
I cannot agree with you more! ^5!
Finally someone with the "peanuts" to say it!
THANKS!
That's right. He either had to nut up or shut up.

He's dropping the other on New Year's Eve.
ffman
Oct 28 2009, 05:18 PM
I'm guilty of #2 sometimes but I do look.
If I'm only looking for a certain player or sport there's no reason to check every section or page of the person's Photobucket.
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 28 2009, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(ffman @ Oct 28 2009, 06:18 PM)
I'm guilty of #2 sometimes but I do look.
If I'm only looking for a certain player or sport there's no reason to check every section or page of the person's Photobucket.
I usually go for the heart - any folder that has NFT, NFS, HTG with all its prefixes, and PC.

That's usually where the best stuff is kept.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 05:30 PM
O boy - We got a deep one goin on here.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 05:34 PM
I am a victim of a recent event where a guy posts a card that books $40 and everything people respond to he says "no thank" or no or no no or nope, or what ever. Im confused, is the card gold? No, the card is board...blah
5
RGBII
Oct 28 2009, 05:35 PM
"Is this a good trade?"
One of these fine days, that
question will be answered by myself
in an open forum.
On second thought, that's probably
not the best display of honesty.
Collect Hard!,
RGBII
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 28 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(Johnny Number 5 @ Oct 28 2009, 06:34 PM)
I am a victim of a recent event where a guy posts a card that books $40 and everything people respond to he says "no thank" or no or no no or nope, or what ever. Im confused, is the card gold? No, the card is board...blah
5
There was one guy who acted like a king who said he had paypal to spend so bring your best. He proceeded to wave/blow off everything and everyone as if they were paupers. When a choice item came up on the block, he wanted to steal it.
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 28 2009, 05:40 PM
QUOTE(RGBII @ Oct 28 2009, 06:35 PM)
"Is this a good trade?"
One of these fine days, that
question will be answered by myself
in an open forum.
On second thought, that's probably
not the best display of honesty.
Collect Hard!,
RGBII You have no idea how many times I would have taken that as a loaded question....
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 05:41 PM
so I have .53 cents in paypal - offer me the best patchauto i can get!@
j55555
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 28 2009, 05:44 PM
QUOTE(Johnny Number 5 @ Oct 28 2009, 06:41 PM)
so I have .53 cents in paypal - offer me the best patchauto i can get!@
j55555
Ask the "experimental" guy.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 05:48 PM
I cannot stand the "hey guys should i do this trade"
If you mangos like the trade then do it....not that hard.....
its like if I walk into a restuarunt and i can order Peach Mango smoothie or Banana Mango smoothie - they both rock - but then could I get a Peach Banana mango Smoothie? with a durian fruit straw?
jjjj
RGBII
Oct 28 2009, 06:04 PM
"Is this a good trade?"
Response #1
I have no idea, as I have nothing to
gain or lose from stated trade. By the way,
my advice and time are not cheap, how
about sending me that #74 for my
sound advice?
Response #2
Have you thoroughly analyzed the topic
question yourself?
Response #3
Would my opinion (as a total stranger)
sway your final decision?
Response #4
If I read another of these inept, pleading
and frankly, rude queries, I'll be forced
to go with the antiquated flip of the coin
choice.
Heads - Aye
Tails - Nay
Collect Hard!,
RGBII
Johnny Number 5
Oct 28 2009, 06:12 PM
Hey
eye think weee shuld trde richhard, i hav alen and binter mimi s
j
69madman69
Oct 29 2009, 12:44 AM
What I hate is when you clearly put "nothing is for trade" at the bottom or top of your post and within 5 minutes of posting you get several PM's browbeating you for a trade. I bust ALOT of stuff and only post from time to time because it is soooooo irritating to get PM's asking what I want for this card or that card. I post some of my breaks because I know how much I enjoy reading other people's breaks so I figure I will share with the forum. That kind of ignorance makes me feel like not posting.
69madman69
Oct 29 2009, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(RGBII @ Oct 28 2009, 04:04 PM)
"Is this a good trade?"
Response #1
I have no idea, as I have nothing to
gain or lose from stated trade. By the way,
my advice and time are not cheap, how
about sending me that #74 for my
sound advice?
Response #2
Have you thoroughly analyzed the topic
question yourself?
Response #3
Would my opinion (as a total stranger)
sway your final decision?
Response #4
If I read another of these inept, pleading
and frankly, rude queries, I'll be forced
to go with the antiquated flip of the coin
choice.
Heads - Aye
Tails - Nay
Collect Hard!,
RGBII AMEN BROTHER!!!
And a HALLELUJAH!!!
Response #5
Since I am doing the thinking for you may I have your social security number so I can claim you as a dependent on my tax return.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 29 2009, 03:31 AM
sweeeeeet
urbanmonk
Oct 29 2009, 05:46 AM
QUOTE(69madman69 @ Oct 28 2009, 10:44 PM)
What I hate is when you clearly put "nothing is for trade" at the bottom or top of your post and within 5 minutes of posting you get several PM's browbeating you for a trade. I bust ALOT of stuff and only post from time to time because it is soooooo irritating to get PM's asking what I want for this card or that card. I post some of my breaks because I know how much I enjoy reading other people's breaks so I figure I will share with the forum. That kind of ignorance makes me feel like not posting.
Yeah that happens alot even if you put
"everything Not for Trade at this time" in bold or a huge font

. Seems like too many folks don't take the time to read, granted we all make mistakes but many are just from not taking the time to read what is already spelt out.
I think most of this all comes out in the wash somewhere down the road. Folks that are difficult to trade with will turn off many folks, and somewhere down the road they will want something from them (and those with a memory will reply with like reply

).
I agree with most things said here, but it does boil down to "it's their cards and they can do what they like with them", similiar to "one can post what they want here" (to a point) even if it's unreasonable trade threads
metsfan2427
Oct 29 2009, 08:00 AM
John: some people don't collect alot of stuff. Like i only really collect Indians and Yamon figurs with some browns on the side.
People asking you to join group breaks does become annoying. If i want to join a groupbreak i would post in your thread.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 29 2009, 01:07 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones
Oct 29 2009, 01:31 PM
I don't mind getting "personal invitations" to a group break from the host - just as long as that host didn't grab the KEY team(s). I might even be more inclined to join a "nearly full" (one or two spots left) group break if I were getting a price break since most of the good teams would have already been taken. But that is just me. The host has the final say so I cannot demand, whine or complain.
snkpoct137
Oct 29 2009, 07:11 PM
QUOTE(Johnny Number 5 @ Oct 28 2009, 06:34 PM)
I am a victim of a recent event where a guy posts a card that books $40 and everything people respond to he says "no thank" or no or no no or nope, or what ever. Im confused, is the card gold? No, the card is board...blah
5
im pretty sure we are talking about the same person there Johnny
Johnny Number 5
Oct 30 2009, 02:53 AM
prolly dude
maybe he had some Brees card or something?>
j5
Gadsden86
Oct 30 2009, 07:40 AM
I feel you on these issues. I can say i have probly been a culprit of a few of these in the past. If for some reason i dont PM you back its not that i am ignoring you it may be that i forgot or got sidetracked.
Johnny Number 5
Oct 30 2009, 04:18 PM
I wish i had some mangos to trade
i also do not like it when people post a deal
change their mind
and cancel it
this happened to a buddy of mine on here and its really sad how some adults feel it necessary to do these types of things. Makes me wonder how they handle real life situations
j
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