When you post in a thread and say "hey that card is cool, what can we do for it?", and they immediately reply "sorry didn't see anything"...

NOw.


most of us on tcc do NOT have our entire collection scanned..

the proper response would be..

Hey, thanx for the message/pm, but i did not see anything in the bucket or trade list. Do you have anything else not scanned? I collect (insert interests or trade bait here)...

Thanx for your time..

J5

Is this assumed or do you actually know this for a fact? Or at least... I'm sure many people have the significant card scanned. So if someone is asking for a highend card and doesn't see anything, chances are that the person doesn't have anything. I'm pretty sure that person would tell the person beforehand or afterhand, so it's not needed at all to add that to the response.

Unless....

People have some cards un scanned so they do not get constant pm's about cards, or perhaps they just got a card in that morning, and have not had a chance to put it up..


so yes,

the response is necessary, and its about respect to the interested party.

J

In that case, you can mention that you have that card to the person you are trying to deal with.

Unless you don't have that card for any specific person or trade, it just happens you have acquired it for general trade bait and negotiations.

Responding Immediately with "sorry, didn't see anything" is almost like a slap in the face to the interested party. I mean, they do call trading "negotiations" right?


Maybe I am the only one that sees this?

To me that is still a "polite" response, I have seen worse on here or no responses at all. Folks need to post what they are looking for when offering up cards for trade, as folks who say "not looking for anything in particular" usually have something in mind that they will trade for.
Some of the indifference can come from people wanting cards out of their league so to speak, asking about a high end card when they have nothing in that range in their bucket or even close in some cases.
I don't bother with difficult trades, I just move on to something else. If they don't have the time to give me specifics on what they want, then it is a waste of my time to dig around just to have them say "I don't need that". I just keep that in the back of my mind along with other things (folks that you get a trade worked out with and they never get back to you, or folks that send weeks after I have sent with no communication as to why they haven't sent in that time; as I know how to read a postmark on a package, etc...). Someday I might have something they need and I can say "sorry nothing I can use right now"

Johnny5 is right..some people have tons of cards and they arent scanned..kooljazz has so many auto/jerseys he doesnt remember 99 % of them!

hehe!

Dwight,alex.

I am glad you all see what i am saying..

Not trying to start an argument.....if a trade gets difficult, i just let it go myself..no use fighting over recycled cardboard!

j

Guess the condensed version of what I was trying to say, is that if they have no interest, then it is time to move on as it would be a waste of my time to try to find something around here that they might like, so therefore it is their loss not mine. I don't think I'm difficult to work with, granted on my better hits I would rather get something for my PC as I don't have much to trade for the nicer cards of the players I collect, but in most cases there are other copies of the same card out there anyway.

true..

I agree with John.

I am moving inventory so much between card shops, eBay and here that I constantly lose track of what cards I do have and which ones I don't.

I also have a lot of cards (eli/peyton manning dual auto, terry bradshaw patch auto, joe montana/steve young/troy aikman triple auto) that i dont post online because they arent even thought of by me to be for trade for 99.9% of things, except for someone who collects them or if it is for a card i want more, which again is .1% of cards

preach on brothers

j

Amen Brotha

This is the word of 5


Thanx be to cards

:-)

careful, no blasphemy now =] =] =] =] =] =]

JD

I have my entire collection posted in my bucket I'm not hiding anything...

Whats the point of having a bucket if you don't keep it updated?

Because a lot of stuff I own isn't for trade at all!!!!!

I like you GForce, you're a good guy

If it's not for trade than post it up in a "Not For Trade" album so we call all drool over it still

Un huh sure, and my wife doesn't ever call me a brat

hmmm

The bottom line is just saying "didn't see anything" without asking if there are any unscanned cards in a collection, is a bit of a brush off (and can be considered rude), but as Dwight said worse things have been said.

Not everybody takes the time to scan (or place photos) of each and every card they have. There are as many reasons as there are card collectors. Some haven't had the time to scan their more recently acquired cards, others may have cards they think are not worth listing either because they are from a long-forgotten rookie that never made it big time, a relatively unknown player, or the card is from the dreaded 1980s-90s Super-Overproduced Era.

Until I started hanging out here on TCC (2 years ago this July - PM me some ideas for a contest!) I didn't think that cards from a fairly mid-ranged common player in their college uniform would draw much interest. I was wrong you never know who may be interested.

For us Life-Time collectors and for collectors that are also dealers with mega huge collections, it is next to impossible to have every siingle card we have/own posted into our bucket. That is where lists, when they get updated also come in handy.

capt,


thanx for the insight,


I appreciate it

j5

I like this comment.

Very profound statement

mangonamnangmano

-JD

It is a daunting task to put everything in a bucket. I am currently enjoying project "clean-up & organize" with my cards and man cave. Due to trying be more trader friendly I have scanned more to the bucket (jsy, autos, rc and some parallels), but more importantly I have re-visited and re-vitalized my freewebs site. It is easier and faster to list and maintain in this format than trying to scan everything.

Everyone is in different phases of collecting and life....don't let the didn't see anything bother you....just move on....as has been indicated, any time I go out of my way to try and find something for the individual, I usually waste many hours and end with no trade...

And little piles of cards in team bags with persons Nics wrote on them that are now no longer where they belong, sorted in the boxes

Time, laziness, computer/scanner speed (referring to ffman here).

I agree with you 100%

I'm working on a webpage with text of my entire collection.

...and incoming mail that you receive wondering why did I trade for this....Oh I remember, the other trade I was trying to get done....

I agree J5. Most of the time I pick up new cards and I do not have them scanned yet. I tell them to PM me because I have some things not scanned that might interest them. Still, they reply I didn't see anything in your bucket..sometimes it is frusterating. Good Topic though.

Or you could tell the person what you have unscanned.

I have cards that are not scanned also, some nice ones actually. I don't care if someone says that they don't like anything. Its not their responsibility to compensate because I got lazy and didn't feel like scanning cards. If you think the card is tradeable, then scan it. Its not the other persons responsibility to figure out what you have and what you don't.

For me it almost seems like trading is too much of a hassle even when my photobucket is organized....I just feel like with too much out there everyones interests are more and more refined...at least that's what's happened to me :/ I more so use my photobucket to display my pc than anything else...the tradebait in there will end up being sold or given away

Amen J5 Amen

except if they respond like you said it would be nice if they said what they were looking for too

I thank everyone for their insight on this so far..

j5j55

what anoys me more is when people dont respond do your pm

Pm response is a courtesy that should occur. I agree, if you take the time to pm somebody and say "hey , I like this card, here is my bucket", let me know if you see anything, if not, pm me back with interests, i have many cards incomming, and cards not scanned.

Always return pm's

j

Ditto. I don't even bother updating my bucket with trade bait. Its too much of a pain in the butt.

keep it up guys

totally agree.

if you have a list of 200 cards unscanned then then its pretty impossible...

some of us trade constantly..


it seems that the people that instantly reply "sorry , didnt see anything" disagree with this topic the most
j

"let me know if you see anything, if not, pm me back with interests, i have many cards incomming, and cards not scanned."

I think this would be a good idea to put in any PM when you're looking for a certain card from someone's bucket. I agree with this thread completely and I am one of those who has been slow on returning PMs, lately. Although, I always return PMs because as Johnny said...if someone takes the time to PM you, you should return the favor, as a courtesy, whether you foresee a deal going down or not.

true

Yeah, that's what I was getting at with my beginning post.

Is it truly THAT hard? Does it matter whether the other person asks or you tell them? If it bugs you that much, either actually be willing to spend time to update your bucket (being on this site infers you have time to do that much) or be willing to tell them after the fact.

That still does not cover the cards I receieve and send out daily in trades..

as you can see im starting to do 20-40 trades a month

inventory circles

j5

You totally ignored the whole point, though. If they were THAT important and bugged you THAT much, you would either: 1. scan them yourself (I'm sure anyone has the time to scan/take pics of some cards even if not all) or 2. tell the trader about them! Not everything should be expected of the other person. Why should that person assume you have other things worth mentioning? Again, chances are that if it was worth something, it would be in your bucket.

I barely have time to know whether I'm coming or going, these days. By the time I check email, check sportlots, check ebay, check sportsbuy, check TCC....that doesn't leave much time for scanning cards...you know. I would love to upload a pic of everyone...and I'm in the process...but until that happens....well you get the picture.

I am 28 and trading cards is NOT my full time job. I do not have TIME to scan and list every card that I have. Its a hobby, not a business to me

j

I understand that.

That's why I would think the alternative could be telling the other person what cards you have unscanned (if it actually bugs anyone that much). It should not be the other trader's duty to assume these things.

Just because they aren't scanned, yet, and I know Johnny will go out of his way to do this as well...from personal experience. If someone is interested in the cards that I tell them about, scanning them CAN become a top priority.