The Cavs seriously need to do something about that team. It's a shame watching Lebron play with Big Z and 10 other subpar players.

yeah, he shot under .500 again, including 0-5 from 3-pt land, had 4 turnovers (which is actually under his avg for the series, well under), only had 3 reb and 5 assts, also well under his avg. then he went on air talking in 3rd person about how his game was good but his team needs to play better and how a "lebron james team never gets desperate". he has turned into a cocky guy who fails to see the flaws in his own game but is quick to point out others shortcommings. he is in my mind a LITTLE over-rated and should be known as "prince" James instead of "king" james until he can learn to step up and be a real leader. with the exception of game 6 against detroit last yr, he has been a disappointmnet in the playoffs, especially this yr.

Z is a great shooter and he needs to spread out the D.

as far as Varejao that kid has lost what he had last year he used to get into guys heads and agitate people now he just flops around like some idiot.

the rest of the guys arent bad joe smith comes off the bench and scores. delonte has his nights, as does wally and gibson

he actually shot 60% from the field

how do you call him cocky it is called self confidence.

.....he was also a whopping 4 for his last 14 shots when the game was on the line. but what do you expect from a guy who is shooting 26% from the field in the first 4 games?

no, he shot %53 from the field (12/25)

I totally agree. That's why everyone thinks he will go to NJ and hook up with his pal Jay-z when he becomes a free agent. He want to be rich and play in a big market. He doesn't have that in Cleveland.

yup he is ove-rated

consider the fact that he averaged 30ppg 7apg and 7rpg in the regular season.

only 2 other players in the history of the game have done that

Oscar Robertson and MJ

I honestly can't see blaming Lebron for any of this, whatsoever. He's playing against the best defensive team statistically in years, and is essentially playing one-on-five 48 minutes a game. The rest of the Cavs are basically a joke. Big Z is competent and Varejao would be a rotation player on any team in the league, but other than that you have a bunch of underachievers and poor shooters. Don't let Lebron waste away with this team!

he wont go to the nets.

he has always been loyal to his hometown. everyone is buying into this because he is a yankee fan big deal.

self confidence is manifest on the court, in clutch moments of games. These are the times when he comes up short or gives the ball up, affraid to take the last shot. Not on camera, or in a press conference. LeBron has never been a clutch player, and unless something radical happens, he never will be.

Bull. He knows the GM will not do enough for him to win it all. In NJ, there is plenty of money to spend.

well seeing that you are a lakers fan you probably didn't watch all 82 games as i did.

he has had plenty of clutch moments this season. and why not drive to the basket and draw 5 guys and toss it out to a wide open shooter.

just another lebron hater. im not going to argue anymore

again, regular season! when you have the ball in your hands every posession, and your playing in the ultra-tough eastern conference, and youy put your stats on the top of your priority list, i see how he did it. but now it's playoff time and the real teams are exposing the world to his weaknesses. Simply make him shoot, fill up the lane and make him shoot, then he is just a below avg shooter who fills up his stat sheet at an alarming rate of %26 FG.

LeBron is the GM in cleveland he wanted hughes he got him. he wanted a trade this year he got one(personally i think they should've kept the team that took them to the finals a year ago)

I'm not a LeBron hater, I'm just a realist. I live in Ohio and watch every cavs game I can. It's not just me either, turn on the TV, most NBA analyists are starting to say alot of the same things I am. Big, Young and athletic will only take you so far, and unless he develops an outside game, he will never win anything.

the only analyst i hear saying that arent even analysts(Skip Bayless)

I get tired of some of Skip's comments.

He and Stephen A. Smith got into a VERY heated argument a week or so ago on 1st and 10.

I think LeBron might be becoming a bit overrated.

.. and as far as not putting the blame on LeBron, he is putting up the worst shooting performance of any playoff performer in the last 40+ years (min. of 60 shot attempts, going into last nights game). if anyone else on the team was playing like him, every one of you would be ripping into him and calling for his head, but apparently, LeBron is infallible.

Lebron got his team to the finals by himself.. LeBron is very young and he has accomplished more than a lot of people.

Also the series isnt over yet

no, he got through game 6 vs detroit himself. i honestly believe he couldn't have lead his team to the finals without Boobie Gibson's incredible shooting during the playoffs last yr. mr. gibson won a couple games for the cavs and came up huge more than once.

dont even waste your time just another Kobe lover

No haha far from it dude

This series LeBron has not lived up to his potential at all

but when the Cavs beat detroit in game 6 LeBron did what he should be doing now and that is putting more trust in his teamates

this isn't about Kobe, were talking about LeBron

QUOTE(degibson84 @ May 15 2008, 11:25 AM)
dont even waste your time just another Kobe lover


Please explain what you mean by this comment

I'm not gonna deny the facts i just like bringing up the facts that makes him look good...

and I also think he made a HUGe and idiotic move by saying a LEBRON team is never desperate... I'm pretty sure needing to win 2 games in a row and needing to prove that you can do as much as you say you can against this Boston team is getting pretty desperate

It doesn't matter if they win, just as long as LeBron can pat himself on his back when it's all over.

the never ending bashing of lebron by this guy.

LeBron brings excitement to any game and is a thrill to watch that is why I am a fan of him.... but he does need to realize he is on the Cavs not the LeBron team

although i think he is more confident than cocky

By me or jkseb1972

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i dont see anyone knocking KG for his 2 point second half of game 4

or LeBron's 2 pt 3rd qtr last night.

2 points in the 3rd quarter isn't as near as bad as 2 points in the second half

jk i sent u a pm btw

he did have 10 in the fourth

leads the league in fouth quarter PPG

there are things called slumps and right now LeBron is in a serious one.

if he dosent get out friday night then the season will be over

I don't hate LeBron, I just think people have unjustly elevated him to "the greatest player on the planet". I believe He is easily in the top 10 and maybe even in the top 5 or 6 best players in the NBA. He is good, i Just think his game is too unrefined and that he has a ways to go before he will deserve all the praise that everyone threw at him from the moment he came into the league. He was always praised for making his teamates better, but this yr, i think he has started to believe that he is the greatest thing since MJ and that he can do it all by himself, which obviously isn't true. i think that the game 6 vs detroit last yr was the worst thing that could have happened to the cavs. since then it seems he looks for himself as the 1st 2nd and 3rd option before he looks to his teamates. I was saying alot of this same stuff about Kobe before he turned things around. again, i'm just a realist, and my devotion does not lie with just one player.

he has plenty of time to develop though he is only 23 years old

At his age being a top 5 player in the NBA is a huge accomplishment

but this is different, Kg has a number of different scoring options, and when your the defensive player of the yr. you can let others do the scoring and concentrate your energy at the defensive side of the ball. It is a totally different situation with the cavs, they need leBron to be efficient.

agreed

also agreed.

you want to reply to my pm =) i want to take your lebron card from ya!

OK so we got this settled now.

the slump must end tomorrow or the season is over

oh i hate when things are settled

LeBron has done it once but i dont think its happening again

ya i dont think the cavs will get past boston but i think they can win at home friday.

anything is possible though that is why they play the games

I thought they just played to make $$

no no they play for the love of the game.


some guys play for the money(Starbury)

Haha. Remember when Sprewell wouldn't sign a contract because he said it wasn't enough to put food on the table or whatever?
I don't think he's even in the league anymore. I guess his family starved

He's actually involved in some extreme financial problems right now. I believe his home was just foreclosed (his yacht certainly was).. That's right.. A yacht. Should tell you how well he managed his finances.