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post Jan 18 2013, 04:24 PM
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I have a very large collection of Jim Thorpe, Red Grange, and Bronko Nagurski cards and this is one of my favorites. How can this happen the same exact card ##. I spend a bunch of $$ on this stuff so the fact the there is the same card with the same serial number really concerns me. What does everyone think?

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First check this card out! Ebay 310563098486 Not sure if you need it but I came a crossed it.

OK now what I think! laugh.gif tongue.gif

The first one came in a pack! The second one is what I call a walk-out-the-backdoor card. A real card, but not put in packs. Tons have made it out from every brand. Like the collectors choice that should have #ings and dont and people write in the #ing. Same with Fleer and Pacific. Not as much with Donruss/Playoff but there are still lots. I have a few with no numberings. And some stamped promo or with odd numbering/letters. I have seen several cards that never had a numbering and somehow pop up with one (and some good ones at that!) look just like the real thing. I don't think that is the case here. The font one the second likes kinda like others I have. The first one is like clean and straight and the second is kinda curvy or swoopy. Which is just like a few that I have including the ones that say promo. I also have some cards where the numbering is one way and I have 2-3 others of the same card and the numbering is a different style. And I really doubt those are fake, just being a common jersey card /500 or something worth a couple bucks. But he are some pics to show you, look close at the promo ones and you will see the font is very close to your second one. Also I don't think its a hawaii promo. I have several of those type cards and they are always stamped! I included pics of a couple of those. All the nations same way and all the Chicago ones same way. There might be some other there that are not stamped but everyone I have seen of those "trade" type shows or conventions have the stamps. Some foil printed some stamped into the card. And most times those cards are numbered to something that the reg version in packs is not. Like if the reg verion is /25 it would be /5 or something like that. It could be a trade show card but I wouldn't put my money on it! I think its a backdoor deal. The has been a couple sellers one ebay that have a bunch listed, when they list them. I haven't seen a seller with them like that in a year or better. But like one seller had a Brady contenders rookie ticket with no auto and no auto stamp. Same time they had a bunch of the cards with no numberings. And all there cards listed where like that and all were donruss/playoff, so they had to pretty much go out the backdoor to have that many. They had tons of them! But anyway thats my thoughs and here are the pics.

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-2007 topps tx superbowl ticket stub auto versions only. Base set of stubs is done!
-2001-2006 topps tix super tix superbowl ticket stub cards and auto version.
-Colts Super Bowl tickets from any Super Bowl they played in. Prefer full tickets but would be open to stubs as well. Only tickets from the Manning ERA!
-A Super Bowl ticket or stub from the AZ Cardinals and Steelers.
-Any full ticket or stub that has Edgerrin James on it!
-Edgerrin James- Mostly rarer stuff. Also odd ball type items.
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-Any checklist that has Edgerrin or Javarris James name on it!
-Any cards of the actors from Married With Children.
-Ice-T auto- From Razor.
-Some of the Celebrity GU and autos. Mostly famous movie actors I like. Nothing super high end.

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labguy42   How does this happen???   Jan 18 2013, 04:24 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   You own both of each???? http://cdn.memegener...   Jan 18 2013, 04:27 PM
labguy42   They are both mine. I bought the ungraded one in ...   Jan 18 2013, 04:30 PM
aceecards   the gold foil stamping looks different on the grad...   Jan 18 2013, 05:50 PM
aceecards   I think your graded one has a problem! not sur...   Jan 18 2013, 05:51 PM
labguy42   I have looked it over very closely and there are n...   Jan 18 2013, 05:56 PM
northicehero99   It almost looks to me like the graded one is faked...   Jan 18 2013, 07:46 PM
aceecards   The Black Boxes in the first year of Panini were n...   Jan 18 2013, 08:03 PM
labguy42   it does appear to be a different font and the ...   Jan 18 2013, 08:05 PM
aceecards   Im telling ya, the graded copy is either a back ...   Jan 18 2013, 11:06 PM
aceecards   what year is that from? 2010?   Jan 18 2013, 11:07 PM
labguy42   It is from 2002   Jan 19 2013, 08:45 AM
aceecards   Ok so that is an old hawaii trade show grab bag ...   Jan 19 2013, 05:01 PM
MWS   That stamping is way off on the graded card. I...   Jan 19 2013, 10:40 AM
labguy42   If it is a Hawaiian trade card show, I am cool wit...   Jan 19 2013, 05:04 PM
chopinalex   I believe one is a chinese counterfeit   Jan 20 2013, 12:46 AM
labguy42   Thank you everyone for your input. I still like i...   Jan 20 2013, 09:08 AM

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