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[chopinalex]

Where is Bob? When I was active from 07-09 or so he owned this site and was actively on. I dont see him anywhere. Did he sell this site to someone? Is he ok? Is he selling girl scout cookies? Can someone tell me where he is? I like his posts and insight on the hobby. Just curious.

[ffman]

Well put Dwight.

Bob was a main factor in the success of this site, but also a part of its downfall. He was faced with more important life issues, so it's no question that he should focus on those instead of the site. That said, his departure was rather abrupt and he didn't leave the CZT with the necessary tools and information.

[mjda]

That said, his departure was rather abrupt and he didn't leave the CZT with the necessary tools and information.

To be fair, though, he did leave (complete) access to the site with the leader of the Content and Graphics Team. I know this to be a fact, because at the time he left that person was me. Then, when I quit the team, I passed that same access on to the current CGT leader as well as to Richard.

[northicehero99]

To be fair, though, he did leave (complete) access to the site with the leader of the Content and Graphics Team. I know this to be a fact, because at the time he left that person was me. Then, when I quit the team, I passed that same access on to the current CGT leader as well as to Richard.

Michael here is a typical example of something that was not communicated. I had no idea that you had "complete" access and what I find funny about that is that I was "co-manager" of the CZT and did not know. There was not a lot of communication prior to his departure and that may have been due to Bob beleiving his departure would be temporary?? Either way, it might have helped if we had know who could do what and find a way to parse it out.

In addition, I agree there were members of the teams who did and others who did not "participate". There again though that is the nature of a donated time team. My free time is as important to me as other members is to them. If you are being paid nothing to be here and others are supposed to help, but don't it is very discouraging for those doing all the work.

As for the sites decline, I don't blame Bob for it all, but as others have said it is hard to guide a ship if you don't have a rudder or you have one, but don't have access to the controls to steer it (or it is not communicated that others do have access).

I think the virus was the major "crash" of the site as nobody had access to stop it or fix it. I know several people had their computers crashed because of it and those types of things keep people away. People kept posting about that issue, but nothing was fixed for a good while which hurt as people were afraid to come back as the risk of losing a $500 computer or having to pay to have it fix was just not worth it.

In addition, there were members here who felt they were the end all - be all of the site and that the mods should "stroke their egos" for them and when that did not happen they took and started issues with the CZT and when all else failed they took their clicks with them and left. I am not saying the CZT was perfect in these issues, but as noted earlier grown men acting like children can really get to you especially if you are not being "paid" to be a babysitter and the site no longer is relaxing to you.