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post Jan 21 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(aceecards @ Jan 21 2008, 11:02 PM)
people who collect for the wrong reasons!

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What i Don't like about this hobby is

The Hot Packs Thingy
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Upper deck being so cheap.
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It doesn't bother me so much when people say they found something they like for an investment piece, but if that is their sole reason for going into the hobby, please make an quick exit from the COLLECTOR zone wink.gif.


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QUOTE(vicsten @ Jan 21 2008, 10:48 PM)
Respectfully Jeff, I want to ask you why you sound so angry? I don't believe MV feels like anyone made him buy a 95. box. I believe he was showing his disappointment over what he received for the 95. he spent. Everyone realizes the risk they take when buying card boxes OR lottery tickets. What I believe though, is that the hobby has a responsibility to do better in seeing that if someone does spend that amount for their product, then they should be left with a good feeling (not a woohoo MOJO moment each time because that would get boring  tongue.gif ) after the wrappers have been strewn all over the place. As far as I know there isn't a lottery collecting site (though it wouldn't surprise me) but that is a gamble. Card collecting is a hobby and I just think alot of changes could be made to make it more enjoyable for many. Perhaps you could step away from the hobby for a time and maybe you could rediscover some of that joy somewhere down the road. Believe me, I and many others I know have done so. But my goodness- if it gets that bad for someone as it seems to have for you, then maybe you could search out another hobby that could bring you joy. After all, isn't that why we all do it? Again, be aware that I am not writing this to give you a hard time. I'm just trying to understand. -Vickie
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No offence take n to your thoughts.. he plainly lets us know that he is 12 years old.. well, at 12, he's in the hobby for the wrong reason if he's already complaning he did'nt get anything good.

You say changes are needed in he hobby, I agree, but, WE have to make the changes, the Companies have all jaded us with the possibility of getting something fabulous that everyone else can envy or we may be able to sell on ebay for 3 x's what the box cost us.

I'm not angry, I'm just tired of people complainign they did'nt get anythign out of a box, just because they dotn like the cards they received.
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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 04:42 PM)

So, here's a topic for members to express what they do not enjoy about this hobby.  TCC:  What do you NOT enjoy about this hobby?




Not sure way...but what I dislike about the hobby is so much easier to think of!!

For me, it's:

1. People who package cards with no regards to common sense/understanding of "handling" by USPS.

2. People holding certain collectors "hostage" just because they think they can.

3. People who trade and state "must be in my favor"

4. The constant fairy tales (con stories) that are made up in regards to where/how/when something "rare" was obtained.

5. The interesting hobby of "creating" worthless COAs!!!!!!!

6. The shadiness of Grading companies including authenticating trimmed/altered cards, wrong signatures, etc

7. The unwillingness of companies to protect the comsumers of "patch faking". They've created anti counterfeiting steps but for them only while the collectors are still left stratching our heads of deciphiring "real" or "fake".


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post Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM
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Also dislike...LESS competition which had made "innovation and creativity" at a stand still


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QUOTE(marcus42 @ Jan 21 2008, 11:08 PM)
It doesn't bother me so much when people say they found something they like for an investment piece, but if that is their sole reason for going into the hobby, please make an quick exit from the COLLECTOR zone wink.gif.
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post Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM
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I sure understand where you're coming from Jeff. Landon will unfortunately experience, as time passes for him, the same feelings that others feel as they move along in the hobby. I believe it would be fair to say that all the things that encompass everyone's reasonings in this thread is due to much greed etc. The fun part to me though after having done it for so long is the things we can help teach Landon as he goes along, and hopefully he will then be able to do the same for others when us old buggers fade out. tongue.gif biggrin.gif (No names mentioned R and A uh... sorry!) smile.gif


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QUOTE(Daze_fan @ Jan 21 2008, 10:08 PM)
No offence take n to your thoughts.. he plainly lets us know that he is 12 years old.. well, at 12, he's in the hobby for the wrong reason if he's already complaning he did'nt get anything good.

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And Yes i am Actually Glad Now that i bought those packs, i turned the RC Auto of Jeff Rowe into a PC Peice, and Now i am GOing to Start Building a Collection of him.

And, Honestly I could Care Less About What you Think, Im Sorry if i am Rude.

Man i am Collecting Baseball, Football, and Basketball Cards for a Hobby. Not to Set around here Arguing with you. Again I dont Care What you think, and i Have my own Reasons for collecting.


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I should rephrase.. "did'nt get anything good.

"didn't get what I wanted or hoped for"

I don't open new product, so I don't know the feeling, but... for example...
When someone complains they payed 200.00 for a box, received the suggested inserts they were supposed to get, why are they upset that they got a 1 color patch of lance berkman and a gu of todd hundley?
There is no guarantee of getting the elusive patch of the hottest star out there or the biggest rookie.
If all product only comtained all theose type of cards, there would only be the 25-50 buck packs .


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I will always consider Vintage in trade from before 1975 , Any sport
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QUOTE(chopinalex @ Jan 21 2008, 04:56 PM)
This is my grip of baseball and why i probably will not buy it anymore..baseball is the king of whozits..take football+basketball whozits and multiply it by 10 and you have baseball whozits!!..
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I totally agree, but in Baseball is all about the Prospects (which is alot riskier than rookies/prospects of Football and basketball) and prospecting...UGH!!! Thank goodness I like FB and BKTB


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QUOTE(vicsten @ Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM)
when us old buggers fade out. tongue.gif biggrin.gif (No names mentioned R and A uh... sorry!) smile.gif
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QUOTE(BoxBreaker44 @ Jan 21 2008, 05:20 PM)
Xfractor Lines
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Dislike ...sensitive people... laugh.gif But seriously I never turned down a Brunell because of the refractor line, but have bumped into ALOT of people that dislike this "minute" aspect of a card sad.gif


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ah that reminds me of another...I enjoy bustin product and if I don't pull something I wish to keep for my PC I will gladly trade it away to help bolster mine. Then I see some people on youtube, mainly one user 'mainlyrookies'

not sure if he is a user here, but he just 'grinds my gears' as one animated character on television may say. He busts a lot of wax, and every single time you'll hear him say....

'don't waste your time with this product...yada yada yada....you'll never get your return on your purchase, it's a complete waste of money...I bought one box, and boy am i glad that's all i got, this is pure crap!'

he said that about...
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Sweet spot football
Topps Sterling
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sure they are hit and miss, but not crap...c'mon...it's a hobby!

ok...well um that's your decision off of ONE box! If your looking for a return on investment, please don't bust wax, this is not the place for you...most products you will have one nice pull and a couple other low end ones, you come to expect this.


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QUOTE(RGBII @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 PM)
I'll not fade out, Darlin', I'll go out with pomp and circumstance. I'll have these youngin's raiding my tomb. Cause it's all going with me!!!
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I hope I can still be here to raid it with 'em. I see you have quite a collection going there my friend! smile.gif


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Wow... a lot of anger in this thread... huh.gif


Three things have stopped me from buying boxes they way I used to... for those of you that have been around a while, I used to bust a lot of boxes and a fair amount of cases... but these three things have done me in, I just can't bear to buy unopened product anymore... sad.gif

1) the proliferation of sticker autographs: I know they don't bother a lot of folks, but the bother me... sad.gif

2) Redemptions mad.gif

3) The incredible amount of no name autographs inserted into today's checklists: How many of the rookies that sign for Playoff Contenders are undrafted free agents? Why shortprint all the big names when they are the ones people want? Autograph checklists have become a joke... dry.gif


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I know this is supposed to be about what I don't like about the hobby, but ultimately you are pulling a piece of cardstock with a four-color rendition of a photograph of a professional athlete.
If you thought you were getting more than that, whether you're paying $3.99 pack or $399.00 per pack, you were wrong.
I'd like to see it stay a hobby and not an investment tool. I still enjoy the physical rush of opening a pack of baseball cards, '07 Topps Series I or UD SPX. It's all the same... they're Baseball Cards!
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It doesn't bother me so much when people say they found something they like for an investment piece, but if that is their sole reason for going into the hobby, please make an quick exit from the COLLECTOR zone wink.gif.
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Overpricing of a product, and then pulling crap.


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See above, thats what I'm talking about.


Looking to finish the sets listed on my site and the following:
2005 Donruss Champions GU
2003 Topps Kanebo

I require scans for any card I trade for.
Also looking for these players:
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I will always consider Vintage in trade from before 1975 , Any sport
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