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post Jan 21 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 10:01 PM)
But many aren't pulled in perfect condition.  Numerous sets are dinged out of the pack (2007 Topps football for me, Turkey Red, etc) plus centering can be a large problem when grading 'new' cards.
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Most are still pulled out of packs with the same care as handling plutomium. Almost none are flipped or put in bicycle spokes today. There is no longer attrition.



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QUOTE(19th Century Indiana Jones @ Jan 21 2008, 09:15 PM)
Most are still pulled out of packs with the same care as handling plutomium. Almost none are flipped or put in bicycle spokes today. There is no longer attrition.
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QUOTE(tex333 @ Jan 21 2008, 09:09 PM)
Upper Deck.
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Because today i had to spend 95 BUCKS worth of my Christmas Money at the card shop
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You HAD to?
Did someone force you to buy anything?

This is what I'm talking about. You did'nt HAVE TO.. you wanted to, so dont complain you did'nt get anything good.
next time, save the time and buy a lottery ticket , scratching is faster and you'll get the same result.


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1. Prices are too high.

2. Some shop owners are jerks.

3. GU's are no longer a rare item. I remember when I pulled my first GU, a 2000 Upper Deck Rookie Threads Travis Henry GU. WOW!!! Now, that stupid thing can probably be bought for $0.50.

All of these and more have already been mentioned so I will refrain from continuing on a rant.

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QUOTE(Daze_fan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:26 PM)
You HAD to?
Did someone force you to buy anything?

This is what I'm talking about. You did'nt HAVE TO.. you wanted to, so dont complain you did'nt get anything good.
next time, save the time and buy a lottery ticket , scratching is faster and you'll get the same result.
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Unless he got a giftcard..

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QUOTE(tex333 @ Jan 21 2008, 10:30 PM)
Unless he got a giftcard..
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Or that thing they call MOJO.



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INVESTORS
Vile, Reptilean, vicious profiteers!
Granted, they've been around awhile, but the numbers these days are disconcerting.
I've seen people walk into the store and ask me what it takes to get a distibutors license from Topps, Upper Deck, etc. with the sole intention of selling the product for 4x what it's worth.
You may want to call them entrepeneurs, wily businessmen or capitalists. I call them filth. They sully my hobby, they waste my time and I wish vicious curses upon their pets.
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- The kids, for many years now, are being squeezed out of the hobby because of the card prices. (Ha! Some adults like me for that matter. tongue.gif ) Actually I think it's a shame that they have created most products for just those with deep pockets.

- I don't like to see so much emphasis placed on book values. I get it. I also, when I began collecting, was stuck on Beckett. Didn't make a move without checking it out first. What I learned of course was that most of today's top stars will drop like a rock when "their time has passed." I wish I could see more people go after what they really want, but doing it out of desire for a certain item rather than placing so much emphasis on how much they're getting vs. how much they'll give away for it.

- "I third that" -Upper Deck!

-I dislike what seems to be such a blurry line between the business and the hobby by so many.





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I'm on the flip side of mvpujols...

People who put everything decent into PC. I list some nice cards on my trade lists, but when someone has an interest in my nice $30 cards, I look at their trade list and they have 50+ $10 items, and nothing better...I know you have better..open it up!

redemptions

getting shorted on cards in packs...

lack of fluctuation in values...Beckett sets a value on a card and in most cases it doesn't move for 10 years....hogwash.


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QUOTE(Daze_fan @ Jan 21 2008, 10:26 PM)
You HAD to?
Did someone force you to buy anything?

This is what I'm talking about. You did'nt HAVE TO.. you wanted to, so dont complain you did'nt get anything good.
next time, save the time and buy a lottery ticket , scratching is faster and you'll get the same result.
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Respectfully Jeff, I want to ask you why you sound so angry? I don't believe MV feels like anyone made him buy a 95. box. I believe he was showing his disappointment over what he received for the 95. he spent. Everyone realizes the risk they take when buying card boxes OR lottery tickets. What I believe though, is that the hobby has a responsibility to do better in seeing that if someone does spend that amount for their product, then they should be left with a good feeling (not a woohoo MOJO moment each time because that would get boring tongue.gif ) after the wrappers have been strewn all over the place. As far as I know there isn't a lottery collecting site (though it wouldn't surprise me) but that is a gamble. Card collecting is a hobby and I just think alot of changes could be made to make it more enjoyable for many. Perhaps you could step away from the hobby for a time and maybe you could rediscover some of that joy somewhere down the road. Believe me, I and many others I know have done so. But my goodness- if it gets that bad for someone as it seems to have for you, then maybe you could search out another hobby that could bring you joy. After all, isn't that why we all do it? Again, be aware that I am not writing this to give you a hard time. I'm just trying to understand. -Vickie


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QUOTE(Daze_fan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:26 PM)
You HAD to?
Did someone force you to buy anything?

This is what I'm talking about. You did'nt HAVE TO.. you wanted to, so dont complain you did'nt get anything good.
next time, save the time and buy a lottery ticket , scratching is faster and you'll get the same result.
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people who collect for the wrong reasons!

Its a hobby , if you wanna play the stock market , go to etrade!


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sorry, that what my boy RGB said earlier.

I guess the real collectors have stood up and spoken hey?


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QUOTE(vicsten @ Jan 21 2008, 09:48 PM)
Respectfully Jeff, I want to ask you why you sound so angry? I don't believe MV feels like anyone made him buy a 95. box. I believe he was showing his disappointment over what he received for the 95. he spent. Everyone realizes the risk they take when buying card boxes OR lottery tickets. What I believe though, is that the hobby has a responsibility to do better in seeing that if someone does spend that amount for their product, then they should be left with a good feeling (not a woohoo MOJO moment each time because that would get boring  tongue.gif ) after the wrappers have been strewn all over the place. As far as I know there isn't a lottery collecting site (though it wouldn't surprise me) but that is a gamble. Card collecting is a hobby and I just think alot of changes could be made to make it more enjoyable for many. Perhaps you could step away from the hobby for a time and maybe you could rediscover some of that joy somewhere down the road. Believe me, I and many others I know have done so. But my goodness- if it gets that bad for someone as it seems to have for you, then maybe you could search out another hobby that could bring you joy. After all, isn't that why we all do it? Again, be aware that I am not writing this to give you a hard time. I'm just trying to understand. -Vickie
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Thank You Vickie wink.gif

Also, all i was Saying is that i went and spent 95$ Worth of my money on cards becaus eof the Price of the Packs/boxes are High, So many 'Hobby' Packs/Boxes Are like $75+ So it is Kinda hard not to be dissapointed if you dont pull anything "good" out of a 40$ pack and 2 15$ Packs that Garuntee 'MOJO'.


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