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post Jan 21 2008, 06:42 PM
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In the other thread I created today (What do you like about this hobby?), Daze_fan posted quite a few things his do not like about the hobby. And, many of them were valid complaints. While many things make this hobby wonderful, many negatives do exist which take away from the experience.

So, here's a topic for members to express what they do not enjoy about this hobby. TCC: What do you NOT enjoy about this hobby?

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1. Over-use of the 1/1 label. For example, I can't stand eBay items, trading topics, etc that label a card a '1/1' when it is not.

2. Impatient traders. This includes collectors who post a trade/sell topic, only to 'bump' it 15 minutes later asking 'NO WANTS THIS??!!?', etc.

3. Collectors who do not appreciate another person's generosity.

4. Redemptions. If a card company cannot deliver a card, it should not promise it to collectors.





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post Jan 21 2008, 06:47 PM
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I dont like buying a 100 dollar box and getting lots of base...aka upper deck..at least with topps/donruss you get short prints..



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5. Redemptions

4.1/1s

3.People Who want more than what the BV is, For Ex: A Cabrera auto BV 40, they want BV 60 Because Cabrera is an all star or somthing

2. People who dont have ALL of there PC in there PC collection, and then you ask for it and they say it is PC. For EX: I want a Cabrera auto that is in Baseball FT section of a bucket, and when i ask for it, They say it is in the PC, Well they should put it in the PC collection Album

1. The Over Use of High End on a Baseball, football, or Basketball Single, It is ok if they say the Box is high end, that doesnt bother me, but what bothers me is when they say a Not Very good Card is High End just because it came out of a High End Product, For Example: A Marcus Giles Auto, or a Sena Casey auto out is pulled out of Ultimate, and it books 30-40 at the Most, Is that high end.


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Way too expensive and usually (ex. Upper Deck) not worth the money.


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~collectors that don't take the time to try and make a deal.
~When the boxes say X amout of hits on average
~People selling cards on ebay that are rude and have do idea what the card is worth.
~Too many high-end products because you can't find anything for less than 40
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Oh, a high-end peeve:

- High-end products that contain 'hits' of common players.


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post Jan 21 2008, 06:56 PM
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This is my grip of baseball and why i probably will not buy it anymore..baseball is the king of whozits..take football+basketball whozits and multiply it by 10 and you have baseball whozits!!..



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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 06:53 PM)
Oh, a high-end peeve:

- High-end products that contain 'hits' of common players.
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QUOTE(STLcardinals888 @ Jan 21 2008, 05:58 PM)
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That was one of the sets I thought of.

No offense to the player, but who wants to pull a Melvin Mora autograph out of a $200+ product?


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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 06:00 PM)
That was one of the sets I thought of.

No offense to the player, but who wants to pull a Melvin Mora autograph out of a $200+ product?
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The death of the masterpiece.

Lack of low-end products for children.

Expensive products with sticker autographs.

Expensive products flooded with GUs of players no longer in the league.

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QUOTE(skatalite @ Jan 21 2008, 06:02 PM)
The death of the masterpiece.

Lack of low-end products for children.

Expensive products with sticker autographs.

Expensive products flooded with GUs of players no longer in the league.
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Thanks Richard For Pointing that out.

Because today i had to spend 95 BUCKS worth of my Christmas Money at the card shop, for nothing good except a PC auto, So i wish they would come back out with like a Product that has nice GU, but is kinda cheap.


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Just to post me thought from the other thread here, and a few more.

People who use the words "Hit" and "Come strong" and ESPECIALLY '56K/DIAL UP BEWARE!!!".. I have dial-up, i never have a problem with scan(s) loading

People who complain they got nothing out of a box.. Umm, you got a bunch of cards, dont say you got nothing because you did'nt get something you can profit off of.
Dont like it, dont buy it anymore

people who only want GU and auto, only to have them complain that Gu are garbage.

people that wont tyrade you one of two cards because it's not worthwhile for them to waste the postage.

( on a side note.... I see a few here that state they wont trade if it's under an X amount, well those are the greedy people out to make a buck if they are too cheap to spend a 1.38

People that do not read the entire post and ask you stupid questions.. I.E.
1. Will not break up... " I only need the XXXX card"
2. Please check my bucket or site... "what are you looking for?"
3. FS ... "would you trade it?"

People who have a card you need, and try to hold it hostage from you because you show interest. You know, you need a card for a set, someone has it, they want extra for it, or want to make a larger trade because they want something 10X's it's value.


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Donruss, Leaf & Playoff not having their license reinstated IMMEDIATELY!
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QUOTE(RGBII @ Jan 21 2008, 06:11 PM)
Donruss, Leaf & Playoff not having their license reinstated IMMEDIATELY!
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Oh yeah....that's a good one.


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ya thats true..if donruss still was doing baseball i would still be buying it..



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1- Redemptions...I don't really need to go in depth there.

2- Overproduction- Mainly of autographs now a days.

3- The way the hobby has gone from a set building focus, to the big hit 'investment' hobby.

4- No DLP in major league baseball!!!!


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Overproduction of what was once rare: used to be a treat to get an autographed card because they were so rare. Now they are everywhere.

Graded NEW cards: people who grade spanking brand new cards and receiving a Gem Mint grade on it and thinking it's worth many times more than what is booked because of the grade. Puh-LEEZE!!! Today's cards are manufactured AS PERFECT already! I dare anyone to crack that graded card out of its case and mix it up with the exact same cards that were just opened from packs and see if they can pull the exact one that was already graded.

"Semistar and used-to-be-somebody-from-before-but-has-no-more-potential for trade - but only in exchange for today's hottest superstar autograph": who are you kidding? If you want the guys on the Hot List that EVERYBODY and their mother wants, then you'd better come stronger than that.

Investment advice on pieces of cardboard: think about it, it's just cardboard.

"Come strong": they usually request that of weak cards they are trying to dump. Okay, semi-weak since a lot of times it is a superstar depicted on the card, albeit a much lower-end card of the upper echelon.

Ebay shillers

For now.....



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QUOTE(19th Century Indiana Jones @ Jan 21 2008, 08:56 PM)
Today's cards are manufactured AS PERFECT already!
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But many aren't pulled in perfect condition. Numerous sets are dinged out of the pack (2007 Topps football for me, Turkey Red, etc) plus centering can be a large problem when grading 'new' cards.


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