|
|
| | |
Welcome, Guest.
The Collector Zone is a free community for trading card collectors - both sports and non-sports. There are forums for all of the major sports, non-sports, autographs and other hobby-related information. In addition, there are areas to trade, buy and sell with other collectors. Our members have now completed over 48,125 collector-to-collector transactions using our easy-to-use Transaction Manager.
With over 30,500 collectors and over 2,750,000 posts, there's plenty of ways to get involved with the other members - either in discussions or with trading. So, are you ready to join and start meeting other collectors?
If you're not a member, click here: Register
If you're already a member, login here:
Replies(1 - 16)
Swib25 |
Jan 3 2007, 12:43 PM
|
MVP
Posts: 1,263
Joined: 25-September 06
From: Glencoe, Minnesota
Transactions: 92 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
That's just the way collecting is. Players cards aren't always valued by how good they are. They are valued the same way most things are, supply and demand. Supply would be the short print stuff, and demand is just who do collectors want the most. Usually those players that are collected most are stars, but a lot of stars go without being giving the value that some collectors would think just because they aren't as popular. I'm a Twins fan, I know how this works. But i like it because it is easier for me to collect Twins cards, they are cheaper.
When you reach hobby enlightenment . . . value is a state of mind Ummmmmmm
I am ONLY interested in Twins stuff. Any Twins, current or former. I like Autos, GU, RC, refractors, parallels, or inserts. I've even been known to trade some base lots. But they MUST be in Twins uniforms. http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m9/swib25/
MLB Team: |
|
|
NBA Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Swib25 |
Jan 3 2007, 12:59 PM
|
MVP
Posts: 1,263
Joined: 25-September 06
From: Glencoe, Minnesota
Transactions: 92 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
I know people that collect Ryna Zimmerman. Plus, this forum is a smal sample of the global hobby industry. Zimmerman was a popular rookie and his cards are worth more. Remember the movie with Marky mark, Invincible I think it was. Where he plays the guy who tries out for the Eagles and makes the team. That guy's real life RC, The only card ever made of him, jumped from less than a dime to $25 after that movie came out. DEMAND
I am ONLY interested in Twins stuff. Any Twins, current or former. I like Autos, GU, RC, refractors, parallels, or inserts. I've even been known to trade some base lots. But they MUST be in Twins uniforms. http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m9/swib25/
MLB Team: |
|
|
NBA Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Swib25 |
Jan 3 2007, 01:39 PM
|
MVP
Posts: 1,263
Joined: 25-September 06
From: Glencoe, Minnesota
Transactions: 92 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
It also has to do with the team. Sorry to tell ya, but the Marlins aren't really popular around the league, Neither are the Twins. . . That's why Yankees players get more value sometimes. . . and Boston. There are more people who collect those teams. The Nationals are somewhat popular too.
I am ONLY interested in Twins stuff. Any Twins, current or former. I like Autos, GU, RC, refractors, parallels, or inserts. I've even been known to trade some base lots. But they MUST be in Twins uniforms. http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m9/swib25/
MLB Team: |
|
|
NBA Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
marlinmania |
Jan 3 2007, 01:58 PM
|
All-Star
Posts: 738
Joined: 16-December 06
Transactions: 76 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
Maybe this is why I'm having trouble grasping this concept. Maybe it IS a regional thing having to do with the team, and it's fan base. I agree that the Marlins aren't the most popular, and they have a terrible fan base. Just look at the attendance problems they've been having. The Nationals on the other hand, may be popular to the East and to the West. And as a "new team," they should have a "fresh, fairly energized, baseball-starved" fan base, which probably helps with their popularity. But here in the Midwest, the consensus is that they're still the Expos, and that they're still pretty much the laughing stock of the NL, which also happens to be my personal opinion(I'm not trying to ruffle the feathers of any Nationals fans!), and as a result, could be why I'm finding it so hard to believe that Zimm. rc's are worth so much more than Ramirez.
Cards for trade.Wants: MARLINS! Hanley Ramirez, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, and Marlins prospects.
|
|
|
|
ffman |
Jan 3 2007, 02:00 PM
|
Merry Christmas!
Posts: 42,366
Joined: 23-February 06
First Name: Cody
Transactions: 147 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
QUOTE(marlinmania @ Jan 3 2007, 12:33 PM) I agree with you, and I'm sure there are people who DO collect Ryan Zimmerman. I guess I'm just failing to see why people would demand Zimmerman cards over the National League ROY to the extent that Zimmerman's cards are twice the value of Ramirez's. Maybe it's just a lack of demand for Ramirez, but once again, I'm failing to understand why there is very little demand for RC's from the best rookie in the NL. Zim was a popular candidate for ROY - just behind Ramirez, I believe.
Collector Zone Team RIP Daze_fan l RIP Steve McNair l RIP Chris Henry l RIP tazmocanCollecting: Mickey Mantle, Tennessee Titans, 2006 Vince Young My new trade page: ffman's Cards for Trade
MLB Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
marlinmania |
Jan 3 2007, 02:30 PM
|
All-Star
Posts: 738
Joined: 16-December 06
Transactions: 76 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
ffman- True, Zimmerman was a VERY close second in the ROY voting and is an excellent player. However, he was still second, and therefore, I don't think him being a close runner-up justifies his cards being twice as valuable as the guy's cards that beat him.
Hallsgator- You say Zimmerman was probably the best rookie in your opinion, which is completely up to you. But if this is how Beckett is determing bv's, by collectors' opinions, wants, and demands (which would make sense to me), does anyone actually know how Beckett determines collectors' demands for a certain card? Do they offer surveys or polls? Do they monitor sales or trades of specific cards? If so, which transactions are they monitoring?
Cards for trade.Wants: MARLINS! Hanley Ramirez, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, and Marlins prospects.
|
|
|
|
Swib25 |
Jan 3 2007, 03:16 PM
|
MVP
Posts: 1,263
Joined: 25-September 06
From: Glencoe, Minnesota
Transactions: 92 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
The secret to of understanding everything is realizing that Beckett monthly is not the Bible. It doesn't not tell you the absolute value of things, just what they think. The value is whatever someone is willing to pay.
I am ONLY interested in Twins stuff. Any Twins, current or former. I like Autos, GU, RC, refractors, parallels, or inserts. I've even been known to trade some base lots. But they MUST be in Twins uniforms. http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m9/swib25/
MLB Team: |
|
|
NBA Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
tj2373 |
Jan 3 2007, 06:23 PM
|
MVP
Posts: 1,700
Joined: 8-October 06
From: Originally from New Jersey; Currently residing in: New Mexico Members Referred: 1
First Name: John
Transactions: 88 (View: Pending | Failed)
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
It is part regional, who is willing to pay the asking price (see ebay for this), how good the player is no matter what round or # pick he was in the year he was drafted, how well he has played since the draft, how quickly he went thru the minors and once he got to the majors. Baseball is all about development. Look at Melky Cabrera of the Yankees. They brought him up in 04 or 05 and threw him to the wolves in a series in Boston and played terrible in center field. Sent him back down to the minors. This past year he played extremely well playing almost everyday. It all depends on the player and how hard they work not just in the minors but once they get to the majors and what they do during the off season. The best example of that is DEREK JETER. One word describes him: CONSISTENTCY. Day in, Day out plays for team, not individual. And he started out terrible in the minors but once again depends on the player and how much they want to make it to and in the majors.
Derek Jeter Collection Base and Inserts Current count as of 1 August 2009: 579 Next Goal: 600 Sets currently working on: Topps: 1973 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1998 2001 2005 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 Topps Heritage: 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 Misc. sets working on: 1988 Fleer 1989 Upper Deck 1991 Topps Stadium Club 2001 Upper Deck Legends of New York 2003 Upper Deck Yankee Signature 2004 UD Yankee Classics 2006 Topps Mickey Mantle Homerun History 2007 Topps Joe DiMaggio Streak and Before the Streak Current and Retired Players Collecting (base and inserts only) Don Mattingly, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Thurman Munson, Aaron Judge, Randy Johnson, Nolan Ryan, David Wright
MLB Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
NHL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chromie4Life |
Jan 3 2007, 06:53 PM
|
All-Star
Posts: 844
Joined: 9-July 06
Transactions: 24 (View: Pending | Failed)
Restrictions: Current Transactions Only
View Gallery
View Trading and Marketplace Topics
Create Transaction
|
QUOTE(marlinmania @ Jan 3 2007, 12:31 PM) Ramirez bv 10.00 Verlander bv 12.00 Zimmerman bv 20.00 Papelbon bv 15.00 Hong-Chih Kuo bv 15.00 Liriano bv 15.00 Weaver bv 15.00 Billingsley bv 15.00 Melky Cabrera bv 15.00 These arent even rookies. only the Johjima is a rookie.
Please don't ask if I want Game Used, I have no intrest in them.My TradelistIm looking for star player rookies, NO Topps, Score, Fleer, Topps Total ETC. I want Chrome, UD & #d stuff. Please dont ask what im looking for it clearly states it here. Thanks. Pull of the Week
MLB Team: |
|
|
NBA Team: |
|
|
NFL Team: |
|
|
NHL Team: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
Track this topic
Receive email notification when a reply has been made to this topic and you are not active on the board.
Subscribe to this forum
Receive email notification when a new topic is posted in this forum and you are not active on the board.
Download / Print this Topic
Download this topic in different formats or view a printer friendly version.
| | | | |
| |