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yilduz |
Mar 19 2011, 10:24 PM
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Gadafhi is a nutbag and needs to be removed from power. Nothing he did directly effects the United States, but due to our position, we're expected to act under the right circumstances. As far as I know, the US has no intention of putting boots on the ground, but we're bombing the hell out of them from a distance.
As for my initial curiosity about France, I understand that the UN decided to go in, so France should help... what I was wondering about is why they're leading and seem to be so anxious to get stuff done in Libya. During this whole situation, everyone has seemed to be kind of idle but as soon as something happens, it's France leading the way. I just thought it was unexpected to see them in front, leading the charge.
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cdoyal |
Mar 21 2011, 10:33 AM
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I'm tired of "Hope and Change"
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QUOTE(sasports @ Mar 19 2011, 07:39 PM) As far the the Libya problem, I am watching it very closely and it is ugly. Ghadaffi is a piece of work, killing civilians (women and children) without any concern. He ordered the fire bombing of an entire community because it was suspected that they were harbouring Rebels. The U.N. gave him and Ultimatum: Cease fire or We Fire! He called the cease fire and broke it in the same breath! Now he has two choices: Fight until we capture him and try him for war crimes or fight until we kill him, because rest assured, one of the two WILL happen! Hmmm..... This sounds oddly familiar. Where have we seen this before? I guess it's all ok now that Obama's at the helm.
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Mar 21 2011, 11:55 AM
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He's been kind of quiet over the last 20 something years since the last time we bombed him (1986). Offering refuge to terrorists. Then after we got Saddam, he saw what could happen to him, opened up to let the inspectors in to show he has no WMD. Now with the uprisings going on over here and spreading as quickly as they did, he reacts like this knowing the international community is going to act to prevent human atrocities.
Sounds like his crazy switch was flipped from 0 to Crazy in 0.06 seconds.
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ffman |
Mar 21 2011, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Mar 21 2011, 09:33 AM) Hmmm..... This sounds oddly familiar. Where have we seen this before? I guess it's all ok now that Obama's at the helm. I'm not going into the Bush/Obama area (especially since most Republicans said Obama "acted too slow" on taking action in Libya), but: I am torn on this idea. Ghaddafi is out of control, but at what point do we stop interfering with other countries? We can't be the "World Police" forever. If we are helping in Libya, why didn't we intervene in Darfur and other places where mass genocide was taking place? In regards to other countries, we are darned if we do and darned if we don't. First the Arab League of Nations supported a no-fly zone, and now they say we are doing too much.
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ffman |
Mar 21 2011, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Mar 21 2011, 12:59 PM) When a similar question was posed during the Bush years, the answer was that Bush was doing it all for the oil. Maybe Obama's trying to raise his ailing poll numbers and prove to the world that he's not a wimp? It would have happened no matter whether it was Obama or McCain in office - both Reps and Democrats left and right (especially Republicans) were wanting this.
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ffman |
Mar 21 2011, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Mar 21 2011, 01:33 PM) Wanting what? War with Libya? Obama not being a wimp? So it's all about who's for it or against it rather than it being the right or wrong thing? Wanting operations in Libya. You were the one who brought up the topic of Obama and made comparisons to the perception of the Iraq War. I was just running with that line of thought.
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cdoyal |
Mar 21 2011, 03:21 PM
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I'm tired of "Hope and Change"
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QUOTE(ffman @ Mar 21 2011, 02:37 PM) Wanting operations in Libya. You were the one who brought up the topic of Obama and made comparisons to the perception of the Iraq War. I was just running with that line of thought. I figured but just wanted clarification. Hussein was ten time worse but since Bush was in office at the time... At our secret Evil Rich Republican meetings (ok, it's really just playing cards at the neighbor's house), we sit around and talk about the unbelievable double standards going on right now. Most of our conversations start out with "Can you believe what would have happened if Bush had been president when this happened?" It really is an amazing thing to see.
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Mar 21 2011, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Mar 21 2011, 02:21 PM) I figured but just wanted clarification. Hussein was ten time worse but since Bush was in office at the time... At our secret Evil Rich Republican meetings (ok, it's really just playing cards at the neighbor's house), we sit around and talk about the unbelievable double standards going on right now. Most of our conversations start out with "Can you believe what would have happened if Bush had been president when this happened?" It really is an amazing thing to see. The double standards idea goes for both sides. But, enough of that as Richard pointed out. Who knows what will come of our involvement over there, especially since most of the missiles being fired are ours.
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Mar 21 2011, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(Zimbow @ Mar 21 2011, 05:10 PM) Its ok! We can afford to get involved. I mean our national debt is only 14 trillion. We'll just raise taxes and what not and make our kids and their kids pay for it! I'm done, Jon And people will wonder "what happened"? When the dollar crashes and its like world war 3, but here in the US!! That why im buying up what I was talking to you about last night Zimb.
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