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Are we even allowed to discuss the real reason this lady is even famous here in baseball card candyland? She believes masturbation is a mortal sin and that with enough religious instruction in pure living we really can prevent Americans from engaging in natural intercourse. She not just one of the abstinence flaunting hot girls from high school, she literally is opposed to physical recreation in any form.
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Sep 10 2010, 05:48 AM)
Remember: Congress can pass any bill without a single Republican vote.
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You don't know much about congress, do you?

1. First time around, the bill was offered in the house without amendments, which takes 2/3rds majority. This was done to avoid poison pill amendments from republicons. This is all in the article.
2. At least one republican vote is needed in the senate to pass anything.
3. Everybody knows there are many conservative democrats who vote often with republicans for the same nefarious reasons.
4. This is not a political issue. It should not need 2/3 majorities to keep people from politicizing it. This should pass unanimously.
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Looks like the bill will get a second chance. I wonder how many soulless, America-hating cowards will vote NO this time around.
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Sep 8 2010, 10:58 AM)
Muslims shouldn't build a mosque at ground zero and Christians shouldn't burn Korans - even though both are legal.
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First, no mosque is being built at ground zero. A YMCA-style community center is being built inside of an old Burlington Coat Factory closer to a couple stripclubs.

Second, I'm still waiting after three threads to hear you or anybody else explain why it is bad judgement to build Muslim things near the WTC. Please explain what Muslim-American citizens or the religion of Islam has to do with 9/11.
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General Petreus condemned this yesterday saying that it will further endanger the lives of American soldiers. He believes it plays right into the hands of Taliban recruiters.
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QUOTE(jkseb1972 @ Sep 6 2010, 07:12 PM)
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QUOTE(ffman @ Sep 6 2010, 04:34 PM)
Richard,

Have you ever considered that its not the religion - but the way that certain extremists interpret it?

I certainly would not want these two pastors and their followers (and others) to be representative of Christianity, because they aren't.  They may believe they are, but not in my eyes.
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This is also why 19 crazy hijackers should not be made representative of the 1,000,000,000+ members of Islam by attaching 9/11 in any way to a mosque in NYC.
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Richest 1% in 1970s: 9% total national income
Richest 1% in 2007: 23.5% total national income

That sums up our country's problems right there. But let's keep blaiming it on immigrants like we always do.


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How to End the Great Recession

By ROBERT B. REICH to
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THIS promises to be the worst Labor Day in the memory of most Americans. Organized labor is down to about 7 percent of the private work force. Members of non-organized labor — most of the rest of us — are unemployed, underemployed or underwater. The Labor Department reported on Friday that just 67,000 new private-sector jobs were created in August, while at least 125,000 are needed to keep up with the growth of the potential work force.

The national economy isn’t escaping the gravitational pull of the Great Recession. None of the standard booster rockets are working: near-zero short-term interest rates from the Fed, almost record-low borrowing costs in the bond market, a giant stimulus package and tax credits for small businesses that hire the long-term unemployed have all failed to do enough.

That’s because the real problem has to do with the structure of the economy, not the business cycle. No booster rocket can work unless consumers are able, at some point, to keep the economy moving on their own. But consumers no longer have the purchasing power to buy the goods and services they produce as workers; for some time now, their means haven’t kept up with what the growing economy could and should have been able to provide them.

This crisis began decades ago when a new wave of technology — things like satellite communications, container ships, computers and eventually the Internet — made it cheaper for American employers to use low-wage labor abroad or labor-replacing software here at home than to continue paying the typical worker a middle-class wage. Even though the American economy kept growing, hourly wages flattened. The median male worker earns less today, adjusted for inflation, than he did 30 years ago.

But for years American families kept spending as if their incomes were keeping pace with overall economic growth. And their spending fueled continued growth. How did families manage this trick? First, women streamed into the paid work force. By the late 1990s, more than 60 percent of mothers with young children worked outside the home (in 1966, only 24 percent did).

Second, everyone put in more hours. What families didn’t receive in wage increases they made up for in work increases. By the mid-2000s, the typical male worker was putting in roughly 100 hours more each year than two decades before, and the typical female worker about 200 hours more.

When American families couldn’t squeeze any more income out of these two coping mechanisms, they embarked on a third: going ever deeper into debt. This seemed painless — as long as home prices were soaring. From 2002 to 2007, American households extracted $2.3 trillion from their homes.

Eventually, of course, the debt bubble burst — and with it, the last coping mechanism. Now we’re left to deal with the underlying problem that we’ve avoided for decades. Even if nearly everyone was employed, the vast middle class still wouldn’t have enough money to buy what the economy is capable of producing.

Where have all the economic gains gone? Mostly to the top. The economists Emmanuel Saez and Thomas Piketty examined tax returns from 1913 to 2008. They discovered an interesting pattern. In the late 1970s, the richest 1 percent of American families took in about 9 percent of the nation’s total income; by 2007, the top 1 percent took in 23.5 percent of total income.

It’s no coincidence that the last time income was this concentrated was in 1928. I do not mean to suggest that such astonishing consolidations of income at the top directly cause sharp economic declines. The connection is more subtle.

The rich spend a much smaller proportion of their incomes than the rest of us. So when they get a disproportionate share of total income, the economy is robbed of the demand it needs to keep growing and creating jobs.

What’s more, the rich don’t necessarily invest their earnings and savings in the American economy; they send them anywhere around the globe where they’ll summon the highest returns — sometimes that’s here, but often it’s the Cayman Islands, China or elsewhere. The rich also put their money into assets most likely to attract other big investors (commodities, stocks, dot-coms or real estate), which can become wildly inflated as a result.

Meanwhile, as the economy grows, the vast majority in the middle naturally want to live better. Their consequent spending fuels continued growth and creates enough jobs for almost everyone, at least for a time. But because this situation can’t be sustained, at some point — 1929 and 2008 offer ready examples — the bill comes due.

This time around, policymakers had knowledge their counterparts didn’t have in 1929; they knew they could avoid immediate financial calamity by flooding the economy with money. But, paradoxically, averting another Great Depression-like calamity removed political pressure for more fundamental reform. We’re left instead with a long and seemingly endless Great Jobs Recession.

THE Great Depression and its aftermath demonstrate that there is only one way back to full recovery: through more widely shared prosperity. In the 1930s, the American economy was completely restructured. New Deal measures — Social Security, a 40-hour work week with time-and-a-half overtime, unemployment insurance, the right to form unions and bargain collectively, the minimum wage — leveled the playing field.

In the decades after World War II, legislation like the G.I. Bill, a vast expansion of public higher education and civil rights and voting rights laws further reduced economic inequality. Much of this was paid for with a 70 percent to 90 percent marginal income tax on the highest incomes. And as America’s middle class shared more of the economy’s gains, it was able to buy more of the goods and services the economy could provide. The result: rapid growth and more jobs.

By contrast, little has been done since 2008 to widen the circle of prosperity. Health-care reform is an important step forward but it’s not nearly enough.

What else could be done to raise wages and thereby spur the economy? We might consider, for example, extending the earned income tax credit all the way up through the middle class, and paying for it with a tax on carbon. Or exempting the first $20,000 of income from payroll taxes and paying for it with a payroll tax on incomes over $250,000.

In the longer term, Americans must be better prepared to succeed in the global, high-tech economy. Early childhood education should be more widely available, paid for by a small 0.5 percent fee on all financial transactions. Public universities should be free; in return, graduates would then be required to pay back 10 percent of their first 10 years of full-time income.

Another step: workers who lose their jobs and have to settle for positions that pay less could qualify for “earnings insurance” that would pay half the salary difference for two years; such a program would probably prove less expensive than extended unemployment benefits.

These measures would not enlarge the budget deficit because they would be paid for. In fact, such moves would help reduce the long-term deficits by getting more Americans back to work and the economy growing again.

Policies that generate more widely shared prosperity lead to stronger and more sustainable economic growth — and that’s good for everyone. The rich are better off with a smaller percentage of a fast-growing economy than a larger share of an economy that’s barely moving. That’s the Labor Day lesson we learned decades ago; until we remember it again, we’ll be stuck in the Great Recession.


Robert B. Reich, a secretary of labor in the Clinton administration, is a professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley, and the author of the forthcoming “Aftershock: The Next Economy and America’s Future.”

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This piece has been updated to reflect today's news.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/opinion/...agewanted=print
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It's long past time to upgrade our 20th century infrastructure. Also, anybody who has ever paid attention in a middle school, high school, or undergrad economics class can tell you that infrastructure spending is a great way to put people to work in the short term and increase local business in the long term. Hopefully Congress can find sense to support such a common sense, well-needed proposal.

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“Over the next six years,” Mr. Obama promised “we are going to rebuild 150,000 miles of our roads — that’s enough to circle the world six times; that’s a lot of road. We’re going to lay and maintain 4,000 miles of our railways — enough to stretch coast-to-coast. We’re going to restore 150 miles of runways and advance a next-generation air-traffic control system to reduce travel time and delays for American travelers — I think everybody can agree on that.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/07/us/polit...ma.html?_r=1&hp

This $50 billion proposal would be paid for by closing tax-loopholes for oil and gas corporations.
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QUOTE(mjda @ Sep 6 2010, 02:32 PM)
While we watch our homeless, jobless, and poverty levels, of actual law-abiding Americans citizens, all continue to rise. thumbsup.gif
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Yeah, because all our problems are the fault of poor, destitute immigrant maids and construction laborers not the greedy tycoons and barons hoarding our productivity with the help of impotent politicians. It was the fault of the slaves, the Irish, the Jews, Germans, and now the mexicans and never the ones blowing up global economies and using Bush's bailout money for yachts and prostitutes.
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QUOTE(historian1974 @ Sep 6 2010, 09:13 AM)
Time and time again the words insensitive and disrepectful are used to oppose this mosque, yet nobody has explained how so. So let me take a stab at it. It's insensitive and disrespectful because the terrorists were Muslim? In that case, we need to remove all mosques from the country. Burn the Qur'an (there is a church in Gainesville, Florida planning to do this on 9/11), round up all Muslims and...wait that sounds familiar.

Does this mean that not building the mosque will bring back those that died on 9/11? If so, then I'll support the claims of it being "insensitive" and "disrepectful".
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We should definitely start a religious war over 19 crazy people.
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QUOTE(rnpurdue @ Sep 6 2010, 09:01 AM)
I agree, it would be insanely expensive.  Just for arguments sake though, why doesn't the government redirect some of our military AWAY from the 140+ occupied countries and send them to the border?  It (the border) is a war, is it not?  I am not implying that our military shoot and kill settlers from Mexico, but to have a military with all of its tactics and men to patrol the areas....wouldn't this help?
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I'm not sure it would. If enough people want to move, they will find a way to do so. No border has ever been totally secured. The Romans found the most effective way, probably, but even that wasn't good enough.

After trying several times in several places to use large numbers of troops to seal a border, it didn't work. They tried to fortify the Rhine and the Danube from Germans and built a wall from coast to coast across Great Britain. After failing with those measures in both cases the resorted to a new tactic: creation of buffer zones. The Roman Legions would practice regular, methodical raids across their claimed border in order to make people on the other side to afraid to come near or live near the line. They would raid over in the middle of the night and burn villages, rape women, kill old people, and take the survivors as slaves. It still didn't work, though. They eventually lost Britain and Germanic barbarians eventually flooded and took over the empire.

The Romans made a critical mistake. They didn't give Germans rights to settle, didn't allow their nobles to become citizens, didn't try to incorporate their local gods into the State religion they way they had done with previous conquered peoples in the past like their Italian neighbors, Etruscans, Greeks, and the Gauls. No, they saw the Germans as horrible barbarians, subhumans incapable of peace or rational thought.

We could try to secure our borders, to wall the barbarians out and hope they don't break through. We could create military buffers like in Korea or Old Berlin.

Or, we could try to assimilate them, welcome new peoples and new ideas as we have always (eventually) done in the past and not be fearful and antagonistic.
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Have any of you considered how insanely expensive it would be to deport even a fraction of the Hispanics in this country? Or how about a fully manned and patrolled border fence?
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i have all the verifying cites of any of the facts above, just ask which one you want and i'll post it.
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I want all of them. Did my grandma forward this one to you? Or aceecards? Lol
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QUOTE(jkseb1972 @ Sep 3 2010, 05:52 PM)
go reds! crush them cardinals!!!!!!
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Nice try.
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QUOTE(Bravesfan10 @ Sep 3 2010, 08:12 PM)
In the Islamic religion, it is tradition to build a mosque on conquered grounds. It's an actual part of their religion, not something the dirty Republicans made up to further our hate agenda. No one cares if they build a mosque, all that the opposers are asking for is that they don't build it there.

Just a side note. It turns out the financial backer for the project donated to a terrorist group a few years back. Somehow, this makes me want to question his motives.
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Source? What about mosques built on land that wasn't conquered?
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This is a ginned up issue invented to polarize people in an election year and it's working. Islamophobia is being acted upon all over the country. We should instead be reeling from embarrassment that there is still a big hole in the ground in NYC 9 freaking years later.
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QUOTE(ffman @ Sep 1 2010, 11:48 AM)
This doesn't apply to us as we are the "land of the free", but:

Using your last sentence - why do some Muslims in foreign countries paint the entire Christian religion as evil and practice violence against Christians?
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That would also be hatred. Religion has a way of breeding exclusiveness and feelings of superiority. Still, people in America have the right to be as backwards as they want.
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This isn't just about the arson committed. It is also about the fact that there is even controversy over a mosque being built at all. It has nothing to do with 9/11. It is pure and clear hatred. Why else would somebody paint an entire religion evil and unfit for their community?
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Sep 1 2010, 11:35 AM)
So there's no difference between the spouse/parent of someone who died when the planes hit the towers that oppose the mosque and someone who committed the crimes in Tennessee? They are both hateful islamophobes?
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There is no difference between people trying to prevent the free exercise of religion on private property for any reason. Misplaced grief is no justification for denying freedoms. Plus, Muslims died on 9/11 too. Does the grief of Christian victims outweigh the grief of Muslims?
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QUOTE(cdoyal @ Sep 1 2010, 02:02 AM)
It can't be justified. What's your point?
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That islamophobia is no different if it's two blocks from ground zero or a thousand miles. Hate is hate.
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August 30, 2010

Incidents at Mosque in Tennessee Spread Fear

By ROBBIE BROWN for
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ATLANTA — After a suspected arson and reports of gunshots at an Islamic center in Tennessee over the weekend, nearby mosques have hired security guards, installed surveillance cameras and requested the presence of federal agents at prayer services.

Muslim leaders in central Tennessee say that frightened worshipers are observing Ramadan in private and that some Muslim parents are wary of sending their children to school after a large fire on Saturday that destroyed property at the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro. Federal authorities suspect that the fire was arson.

The Islamic center has attracted national attention recently because its planned expansion into a larger building in some ways parallels a controversial proposal to build an Islamic center two blocks from the site of the Sept. 11 attacks in New York.

The Murfreesboro center, which has existed for nearly 30 years, suddenly found itself on front pages of newspapers this month and on “The Daily Show.” It became a hot topic in the local Congressional race, with one Republican candidate accusing the center of fostering terrorism and trying to link it to the militant Palestinian group Hamas.

Then, on Saturday, the police say, someone set fire to construction equipment at the site where the Islamic center is planning to move, destroying an earthmover and three other pieces of machinery. And on Sunday, as CNN was filming a news segment about the controversy, someone fired at least five shots near the property.

“We are very concerned about our safety,” said Essam Fathy, head of the center’s planning committee. “Whatever it takes, I’m not going to allow anybody to do something like this again.”

No people were injured in either incident. The cases are being investigated by the police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

In a statement on the center’s Web site, a spokeswoman called the fire an “arson attack” and an “atrocious act of terrorism.”

In Nashville, 30 miles northwest, local imams met with representatives of the United States attorney’s office on Monday to discuss the risk of further anti-Islamic violence. Several mosques have requested police surveillance, they said, especially with the end of Ramadan this year nearly coinciding with the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

“We’re worried that these attacks could spill over into Nashville,” said Mwafaq Mohammed, president of the Salahadeen Islamic Center there. “We don’t want people to misunderstand what we’re celebrating around Sept. 11. It would be better to take precautionary measures.”

Another mosque, the Islamic Center of Nashville, has installed indoor and outdoor surveillance cameras, hired round-the-clock security guards and requested that F.B.I. agents be on site during worship services, according to the imam, Mohamed Ahmed.

“Whoever did this, they are terrorists,” Mr. Ahmed said. “What’s the difference between them and Al Qaeda?”

But in other parts of Tennessee, including Chattanooga, Knoxville and Memphis, Muslim leaders reported that they had experienced no hostility and saw no reason to increase security.


So how is this one going to be justified? It's no where near "Ground Zero."

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Terrorist Ties Doubted in Amsterdam Arrests

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Here is "insensitivity" at its worst:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbiS91Ayn6c&feature=search

Crazy anti-muslim protest crowd in NYC shouts at what they think is a muslim, but in reality is a black, non-muslim Carpenter at the New World Trade Center named Kenny.

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August 21, 2010

Taking Bin Laden’s Side

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
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Is there any doubt about Osama bin Laden’s position on the not-at-ground-zero mosque?

Osama abhors the vision of interfaith harmony that the proposed Islamic center represents. He fears Muslim clerics who can cite the Koran to denounce terrorism.

It’s striking that many American Republicans share with Al Qaeda the view that the West and the Islamic world are caught inevitably in a “clash of civilizations.” Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born cleric who recruits jihadis from his lair in Yemen, tells the world’s English-speaking Muslims that America is at war against Islam. You can bet that Mr. Awlaki will use the opposition to the community center and mosque to try to recruit more terrorists.

In short, the proposed community center is not just an issue on which Sarah Palin and Osama bin Laden agree. It is also one in which opponents of the center are playing into the hands of Al Qaeda.

These opponents seem to be afflicted by two fundamental misconceptions.

The first is that a huge mosque would rise on hallowed land at ground zero. In fact, the building would be something like a YMCA, and two blocks away and apparently out of view from ground zero. This is a dense neighborhood packed with shops, bars, liquor stores — not to mention the New York Dolls Gentlemen’s Club and the Pussycat Lounge (which says that it arranges lap dances in a private room, presumably to celebrate the sanctity of the neighborhood).

Why do so many Republicans find strip clubs appropriate for the ground zero neighborhood but object to a house of worship? Are lap dances more sanctified than an earnest effort to promote peace?

And this is an earnest effort. I know Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his wife, Daisy Khan — the figures behind the Islamic community center — and they are the real thing. Because I have written often about Arab atrocities in Darfur and about the abuse of women in Islamic countries, some Muslim leaders are wary of me. But Imam Feisal and Ms. Khan are open-minded and have been strong advocates for women within Islam.

The second misconception underlying this debate is that Islam is an inherently war-like religion that drives believers to terrorism. Sure, the Islamic world is disproportionately turbulent, and mullahs sometimes cite the Koran to incite murder. But don’t forget that the worst brutality in the Middle East has often been committed by more secular rulers, like Saddam Hussein and Hafez al-Assad. And the mastermind of the 1970 Palestinian airline hijackings, George Habash, was a Christian.

Remember also that historically, some of the most shocking brutality in the region was justified by the Bible, not the Koran. Crusaders massacred so many men, women and children in parts of Jerusalem that a Christian chronicler, Fulcher of Chartres, described an area ankle-deep in blood. While burning Jews alive, the crusaders sang, “Christ, We Adore Thee.”

My hunch is that the violence in the Islamic world has less to do with the Koran or Islam than with culture, youth bulges in the population, and the marginalization of women. In Pakistan, I know a young woman whose brothers want to kill her for honor — but her family is Christian, not Muslim.

Precisely because Palestinian violence has roots outside of Islam, Israel originally supported the rise of Hamas in Gaza. Israeli officials thought that if Gazans became more religious, they would spend their time praying rather than firing guns.

President George W. Bush was statesmanlike after 9/11 in reaching out to Muslims and speaking of Islam as a religion of peace. Now many Republicans have abandoned that posture and are cynically turning the Islamic center into a nationwide issue in hopes of votes. It is mind-boggling that so many Republicans are prepared to bolster the Al Qaeda narrative, and undermine the brave forces within Islam pushing for moderation.

Some Republicans say that it is not a matter of religious tolerance but of sensitivity to the feelings of relatives to those killed at ground zero. Hmm. They’re just like the Saudi officials who ban churches, and even confiscate Bibles, out of sensitivity to local feelings.

On my last trip to Saudi Arabia, I brought in a Bible to see what would happen (alas, the customs officer searched only my laptop bag). Memo to Ms. Palin: Should we learn from the Saudis and protect ground zero by banning the Koran from Lower Manhattan?

For much of American history, demagogues have manipulated irrational fears toward people of minority religious beliefs, particularly Catholics and Jews. Many Americans once honestly thought that Catholics could not be true Americans because they bore supreme loyalty to the Vatican.

Today’s crusaders against the Islamic community center are promoting a similar paranoid intolerance, and one day we will be ashamed of it.


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