Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Spend Bob's Money!, Round 1 boxes opened; Details coming...

[bob_TCC]

By the way, the order will get placed this coming Monday night, 12/10/07. So, we have a few days to gather input and see if any consensus develops.

-Bob

[bigalexx]

How about....
07 Gridiron Gear Football 100$
07 Leaf Limited Football 100$
05 Diamond Kings Baseball 40-50$

[aceecards]

Steve,

Are these your suggestions of products for consideration?

Baseball:
2007 Upper Deck Sweet Spot Classic Baseball Hobby Tin/Box $89.99

Football:
2007 Leaf Limited Football Hobby Box $96.99
2007 Upper Deck SP Rookie Threads Football Hobby Box $223.99

Hockey:
2006/07 Upper Deck Sweet Shot Hockey Hobby Box $48.99

-Bob

yes absolutely!!

[epbball15]

Don't really have any advice.... but good luck!!!

[aceecards]

Lets go back and revisit this again..

if you buy the two tins and one leaf limited and keep the PC there may be nothing left to sell but base.. so your 250 investment will become store aways and your return will be less than stellar

Lets change this up a little

1 artifacts hockey 07-08 should yield back your money and a keeper! $100

1 box of gridiron gear, classics or throwback threads could be bought for 70 im guessing!

The other $80.00 that is left

I would go for a box of Jeremy's favorite diamond kings baseball for $40

and a finish up with a box of 2004 UD Legends football 3 autos and some decent rookies and I think its discounted pretty heavily!

That will give you volume rookies from every sport and a nice overall selection across sports!

[bob_TCC]

Here's a proposed group of boxes:

2005 Donruss Diamond Kings Baseball Hobby Box $43.99 (Blowout)
2 AU or GU cards
12 inserts
60 total cards

2006 Bowman Heritage Baseball Hobby Box $35.99 (Blowout)
1 AU and 2 GU cards
1 box loader
48 parallel cards
48 inserts
192 total cards

2007/08 Upper Deck Artifacts Basketball Hobby Box $68.99 (Blowout)
1 numbered, AU or GU card per pack (10 total)
2 numbered RCs
40 total cards

2005 Bowman's Best Football Hobby Box $47.99 (Blowout)
5 RC AU or GU cards
10 parallel cards
50 total cards

2006/07 Upper Deck Sweet Shot Hockey Hobby Box $48.99 (Blowout)
1 AU and 1 GU card
1 RC GU
4 total cards

Total: $245.95

Thoughts on this proposed group? Which products would you change and what would you replace them with?

Notice that baseball, basketball, football and hockey are all covered by this group and the group contains 3 boxes that were already suggested.

-Bob

[bob_TCC]

The Bowman's Best looks like it could be a really fun break and lead to a very nice hit! Then, Diamond Kings just seems to be a TCC favorite. Finally, I've always thought the Sweet Shot hockey was a great product at that price.

So, I'm feeling fairly strongly about those 3 products at the moment.

I'm not convinced about the Artifacts basketball, but it does look to be one of the best in that range.

Then, the Bowman Heritage box is obviously the last one to make the cut. So, I could be easily convinced to replace it with something else. However, keeping the total under $250 becomes the issue.

-Bob

[aceecards]

dont buy the artifacts basketball!! It is weak

[Lew47]

If you are looking for something cheap 06 Playoff Playoffs Football sets/tins are a wonderful deal at under $40 ($29 at D&A). A whole set woth $10 bucks cash (BV of $50) and a shot at a really nice auto (one auto per tin). If you've not gotten one I recommend them to anyone at this price.

05 Sweet Spot FB is great right now. 1 junk jersey, 2 autographed Helmets, and a shot at the only rookie card made of Ryan Grant (sells for $60). ($60 a box at D&A) I'd think you could get $20 minimum back with 2 common helmet autos.

If you put a nice combination of these together I'd think you could keep your opening chain going another week....or longer if you hit something.

[bob_TCC]

dont buy the artifacts basketball!! It is weak

What would you replace that with? You have under $73 to "spend".

-Bob

[bob_TCC]

05 Sweet Spot FB is great right now. 1 junk jersey, 2 autographed Helmets, and a shot at the only rookie card made of Ryan Grant (sells for $60). ($60 a box at D&A) I'd think you could get $20 minimum back with 2 common helmet autos.

So, that would be:

2005 Upper Deck Sweet Spot Football Hobby Box $64 (DACW)
2 AUs and 1 GU
4 RCs
48 total cards

Certainly an option...

-Bob

[northicehero99]

I would honestly go with some 05-6 Hockey if you can find the right product for the right price. Well worth the risk if you hit Crosby or Ovechkin. S2 boxes are pretty cheap and you have a chance at the Victory Crosby $20 bv and Ovechkin YG $80 as well as some other talented rcs like Getzalf, Vanek.

My other suggestion would be 08 Leaf R&S. Those patch autos seem to be coming out a good bit and can pay for the box.

[bob_TCC]

I would honestly go with some 05-6 Hockey if you can find the right product for the right price.  Well worth the risk if you hit Crosby or Ovechkin.  S2 boxes are pretty cheap and you have a chance at the Victory Crosby $20 bv and Ovechkin YG $80 as well as some other talented rcs like Getzalf, Vanek.

My other suggestion would be 08 Leaf R&S.  Those patch autos seem to be coming out a good bit and can pay for the box.

Brian,

Thanks for the input. Here's what I'm seeing:

2005/06 Upper Deck Series 2 Hockey Hobby Box $39.99
2 GU cards
6 RCs
192 total cards

That might be a good replacement for the Bowman Heritage baseball box.

Which R&S are you referring to?

-Bob

[bob_TCC]

So, here's a new proposed group of boxes (partial):

2005 Donruss Diamond Kings Baseball Hobby Box $43.99 (Blowout)
2 AU or GU cards
12 inserts
60 total cards

2005 Bowman's Best Football Hobby Box $47.99 (Blowout)
5 RC AU or GU cards
10 parallel cards
50 total cards

2005/06 Upper Deck Series 2 Hockey Hobby Box $39.99 (Blowout)
2 GU cards
6 RCs
192 total cards

2006/07 Upper Deck Sweet Shot Hockey Hobby Box $48.99 (Blowout)
1 AU and 1 GU card
1 RC GU
4 total cards

Total: $180.96

That leaves us with $69.04 to spend. My preference would be to include a basketball product, so what would you buy?

-Bob

[aceecards]

Id see what is available from 2003-2004 UD products in basketball

Hoping for Bron, anthony, wade or MJ

[aceecards]

Also the rookies in 2005 bowman best football is horrible.. I mustve missed that the last time thru..

look at 04 or 06 products in football in my opinion!

[bob_TCC]

Here's an option:

2005/06 Topps Luxury Box Basketball Hobby Box $68.99
1 AU and 4 GUs
10 parallel cards
1 box loader
48 total cards

Other products include:

2005/06 Topps First Row Basketball Hobby Box
2006/07 Upper Deck SP Authentic Basketball Hobby Box
2007/08 Fleer Basketball Hobby Box
2007/08 Upper Deck Artifacts Basketball Hobby Box (did not receive the aceecards' seal of approval )

-Bob

[aceecards]

OR..

go for the miracle and see what is available from 2000 football.. hoping for that Brady but that is a only hit in those except for autos/gu

[Lew47]

I agree in 05 Bowman's Best football being bad. You are likey to get 2 auto's and 3 jerseys but they don't have the greatest of player selection.

But I'm biased and want to see 05 Sweet Spot.

What about 06-07 Fleer eX. Basketball. It has alot of Whozits but the potential for a big hit is there for under $50

[picipat]

If you're going to break a basketball product you should find a cheap 07/08 product and go for a Durrant or Oden. Plus the 07/08 cards might have a better resale value because everyone is starting to collect them.