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Posted by: mjda May 31 2009, 11:22 AM

Purpose

The (UN)OFFICIAL Multi-Sport Team Hobby Box Club is a unique group box break in that it includes multiple sports: baseball, basketball, football and hockey! The focus of the group will be on opening new products from all 4 sports in order to get a good look at what's new each and every month.

This club is intended for members that collect multiple sports and/or members that collect one or more of the sports but are interested in obtaining "inventory" of the latest products from all sports.

Cost: $25 per spot
Payment Methods: PayPal (preferred), money orders, cash
Payment Due Date: June 10

If you would rather pay via money order or cash, please PM me for my mailing address.

Teams by Member

Here are alphabetical lists of the teams for all 4 sports, including the member that will receive cards from each team:

Baseball
Arizona Diamondbacks - mikeadd10
Atlanta Braves - phinsfan77
Baltimore Orioles - sgmco
Boston Red Sox - Canucksfan1812
Chicago Cubs - mwagner24
Chicago White Sox - mjda
Cincinnati Reds - Axe725
Cleveland Indians - dabeastlykid
Colorado Rockies - abcdefg via trade with otter8418
Detroit Tigers - joey244
Florida Marlins- mjda via trade with aceecards
Houston Astros - mjda
Kansas City Royals - THUNDER9
Los Angeles Angels - pavi39
Los Angeles Dodgers - josh3302
Milwaukee Brewers- road_runner_1964
Minnesota Twins - northicehero99
New York Mets - sahetu
New York Yankees - maple19
Oakland Athletics - Herdfan13
Philadelphia Phillies - abcdefg
Pittsburgh Pirates - bob_TCC
San Diego Padres - Pete
San Francisco Giants - crpalmi
Seattle Mariners - yodude91
St. Louis Cardinals - road_runner_1964
Tampa Bay Rays - josh3302 via trade with Oilers4ever
Texas Rangers - Luke2411
Toronto Blue Jays - DCool
Washington Nationals - mjda


Basketball
Atlanta Hawks - road_runner_1964
Boston Celtics - mjda
Charlotte Bobcats - abcdefg
Chicago Bulls - Pete
Cleveland Cavaliers - mjda
Dallas Mavericks - Luke2411
Denver Nuggets - joey244
Detroit Pistons - Oilers4ever
Golden State Warriors - road_runner_1964
Houston Rockets - Herdfan13
Indiana Pacers - phinsfan77
Los Angeles Clippers - bob_TCC
Los Angeles Lakers - yodude91
Memphis Grizzles - dabeastlykid
Miami Heat - otter8418
Milwaukee Bucks - pavi39
Minnesota Timberwolves - DCool via trade with mikeadd10
New Jersey Nets - mjda via trade with northicehero99
New Orleans Hornets - aceecards
New York Knicks - Axe725
Oklahoma City Thunder - josh3302
Orlando Magic -DCool
Philadelphia 76ers - THUNDER9
Phoenix Suns - sahetu
Portland Trail Blazers - crpalmi
San Antonio Spurs - mjda
Saramento Kings - Canucksfan1812
Toronto Raptors - maple19
Utah Jazz - sgmco
Washington Wizards - mwagner24


Football
Arizona Cardinals - Canucksfan1812
Atlanta Falcons - crpalmi
Baltimore Ravens - aceecards
Buffalo Bills - sgmco
Carolina Panthers - mjda
Chicago Bears - mwagner24
Cincinnati Bengals - bob_TCC
Cleveland Browns - joey244
Dallas Cowboys - Luke2411
Denver Broncos - mikeadd10
Detroit Lions - abcdefg
Green Bay Packers - pavi39
Houston Texans - otter8418
Indianapolis Colts - northicehero99
Jacksonville Jaguars - maple19
Kansas City Chiefs - Pete
Miami Dolphins - phinsfan77
Minnesota Vikings - road_runner_1964
New England Patriots - Herdfan13
New Orleans Saints - Oilers4ever
New York Giants - sahetu
New York Jets - road_runner_1964
Oakland Raiders - mjda
Philadelphia Eagles - dabeastlykid
Pittsburgh Steelers - THUNDER9
San Diego Chargers - Oilers4ever via trade with josh3302
San Francisco 49ers - DCool
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams - mjda
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tennessee Titans - yodude91
Washington Redskins - Axe725


Hockey
Anaheim Ducks - josh3302
Atlanta Thrashers - Herdfan13
Boston Bruins - phinsfan77
Buffalo Sabres - Axe725
Calgary Flames - crpalmi
Carolina Hurricanes - dabeastlykid
Chicago Blackhawks - Canucksfan1812
Colorado Avalanche - mjda
Columbus Blue Jackets - mikeadd10
Dallas Stars - THUNDER9
Detroit Red Wings - joey244
Edmonton Oilers - road_runner_1964
Florida Panthers - yodude91
Los Angeles Kings - mikeadd10 via trade with DCool
Minnesota Wild - bob_TCC
Montreal Canadiens - otter8418
Nashville Predators - Luke2411
New Jersey Devils - mwagner24
New York Islanders - pavi39
New York Rangers - road_runner_1964
Ottawa Senators - sahetu
Philadelphia Flyers - aceecards via trade with mjda
Phoenix Coyotes - northicehero99 via trade with mjda
Pittsburgh Penguins - northicehero99
San Jose Sharks - otter8418 via trade with abcdefg
St. Louis Blues - aceecards
Tampa Bay Lightning - Pete
Toronto Maple Leafs - maple19
Vancouver Canucks - Oilers4ever
Washington Capitals - sgmco


Hobby Boxes for June's Break

Baseball

2009 Upper Deck Series 2 - $68
20 cards per pack, 16 packs per box
(1) 1989 upper deck buyback
(2) memorabilia cards
(1) autographed card

2008 Upper Deck Sweet Spot - $92
6 packs per box, 8 cards per pack
(6) autographs or memorabilia cards

Basketball

2008/09 Upper Deck SPx - $150
10 packs per box, 3 cards per pack
(10) autographs or memorabilia cards

Football

2009 Playoff Prestige - $83
8 cards per pack, 24 packs per box
(4) autographs or memorabilia cards

2008 Playoff Absolute Memorabilia - $100
4 packs per box, 4 cards per pack
(4) autographs or memorabilia cards

1 pack 2007 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection - $44
5 cards per pack

Hockey

2008/09 Upper Deck Be A Player Signature - $90
5 cards, 8 packs per box
(8) autograph cards

2008/09 Upper Deck Artifacts - $63
10 packs per box, 4 cards per pack
(3) memorabilia cards

Total: $690 - 7 boxes + 1 pack!
Hits: 38

Schedule for box breaks

Baseball Hobby Boxes - July 3 @ 7pm EST
Basketball Hobby Boxes - July 3 @ 7pm EST
Football Hobby Boxes - July 3 @ 7pm EST (tentative)
Hockey Hobby Boxes - July 3 @ 7pm EST (tentative)

All breaks will take place on Ustream.TV. This provides a solution for LIVE, interactive events as well as archives of all events that were previously broadcast. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tcc-multi-sport-team-hbc.

Current Members
1. mjda - Paid
2. sgmco - Paid
3. joey244 - Paid
4. crpalmi - Paid
5. bob_TCC - Paid
6. road_runner_1964 - Paid
7. northicehero99 - Paid
8. Luke2411 - Paid
9. pavi39 - Paid
10. sahetu - Paid
11. phinsfan77 - Paid
12. mjda - Paid
13. mjda - Paid
14. josh3302 - Paid
15. Axe725 - Paid
16. mikeadd10 - Paid
17. otter8418 - Paid
18. Canucksfan1812 - Paid
19. maple19 - Paid
20. mwagner24 - Paid
21. aceecards - Paid
22. DCool - Paid
23. abcdefg - Paid
24. Oilers4ever - Paid
25. THUNDER9 - Paid
26. yodude91 - Paid
27. Pete - Paid
28. road_runner_1964 - Paid
29. dabeastlykid - Paid
30. Herdfan13 - Paid

BOLD represents confirmed members.

Waiting List

1. bajmurray
2. Karlitos Way

All members will be offered spots in the order they're added to the waiting list. If you would like to be added to the waiting list either post in the thread or feel free to PM me.

Draft process

1. Draft consists of 4 rounds of 30 picks per round.
2. Random draft order is determined for each round.
3. Any sport can be selected in any round.
4. Each member can only draft one team from each sport.

With this method, we seem to find a good balance between allowing members to focus on their primary sports while still maintaining the desired level of randomness and multi-sport theme.

The draft will take place via a draft board. Each member will have 12 hours to make their selection. After the 12 hours if you still have not made you pick, all of the teams available to you will be entered into random.org and you will be given the team at the top. This randomization will be recorded on Ustream.TV and saved for later viewing. All members may also submit a proxy list to me so that I can make your pick for you.

Determination of draft order

A random draft order will be determined for each round of the draft. That random draft order will be determined through the use of the List Randomizer tool on RANDOM.ORG (http://www.random.org/lists/).

Also, determination of the random draft order will be broadcast LIVE on Ustream.TV. That way, we'll all see what happens when it happens!

Draft Order

Round 1

northicehero99
maple19
Pete
mikeadd10
Canucksfan1812
Luke2411
aceecards
yodude91
Oilers4ever
DCool
pavi39
road_runner_1964
mjda
abcdefg
crpalmi
Axe725
road_runner_1964
dabeastlykid
josh3302
mjda
sahetu
sgmco
joey244
THUNDER9
otter8418
mwagner24
phinsfan77
Herdfan13
bob_TCC
mjda

Round 2

DCool
mjda
otter8418
joey244
Pete
road_runner_1964
northicehero99
Oilers4ever
bob_TCC
road_runner_1964
aceecards
Axe725
Canucksfan1812
Luke2411
mikeadd10
mjda
sahetu
mjda
mwagner24
abcdefg
phinsfan77
josh3302
THUNDER9
dabeastlykid
sgmco
maple19
pavi39
crpalmi
Herdfan13
yodude91

Round 3

phinsfan77
joey244
maple19
Oilers4ever
dabeastlykid
northicehero99
Luke2411
aceecards
Axe725
bob_TCC
pavi39
crpalmi
DCool
abcdefg
mjda
mjda
josh3302
sahetu
mjda
road_runner_1964
mikeadd10
mwagner24
Herdfan13
sgmco
road_runner_1964
otter8418
yodude91
THUNDER9
Pete
Canucksfan1812

Round 4

pavi39
Oilers4ever
THUNDER9
Pete
dabeastlykid
mjda
sgmco
northicehero99
mwagner24
joey244
aceecards
abcdefg
mjda
crpalmi
sahetu
Axe725
road_runner_1964
phinsfan77
DCool
Herdfan13
yodude91
otter8418
Canucksfan1812
josh3302
road_runner_1964
mjda
mikeadd10
Luke2411
bob_TCC
maple19

Trading of Teams

Drafted teams can be traded between club members up until a specified deadline - before the first box is opened. In addition, members are not required to keep one team from each sport.

Determination of Cards

All cards (base, parallels and inserts) are assigned to teams based on the team and logo pictured on the card. In other words, the jersey being worn by the player and/or the current team for which a player plays are not considered.

Cards that involve players from more than one team (e.g., dual AU or GU cards) will be assigned to one of the eligible club members by a random drawing. A multi-player card that includes a player from an undrafted team or an undrafted player does not open those cards up to every single member. Instead, the random drawing is still just be limited to the members that have the rest of the teams featured on the card.

Each pull from the 2 undrafted NFL teams will be given away using a random selection between all 30 members of the club. All of the hits and inserts will be drawn for 1 at a time, while the base cards will be drawn for as a lot for each team. So, even after all of the boxes are opened, there's still final chances to get some nice cards!

Transactions

Transactions will be created for each spot that is purchased. Those transactions will be posted prior to the first hobby box being opened.

Shipping

All base cards will be placed in one or more team bags, wrapped in bubble wrap, and carefully placed in a bubble mailer. All non-base cards will be placed in individual card sleeves, toploaders and team bags (multiple cards per bag). All cards are then placed in a bubble mailer. Delivery Confirmation will be used on all domestic packages and the appropriate Customs Declaration form will be used for all international packages.

Disclaimer

Here's the key thing to understand about group box breaks:

The nature of group box breaks is that each participant may or may not receive "great pulls" or even any cards at all (wise box selection should avoid this). Therefore, a member is purchasing the opportunity to take part in the group as well as any cards that result from that opportunity.

Posted by: mjda May 31 2009, 11:28 AM

Here are a few things that have changed for this month:

1) There will now be a 12 hour time limit for selecting your pick. After that, you will be given a random team, decided by random.org, from the teams available to you.

2) You can now submit your proxy lists to me so that I can make your pick for you. This will eliminate the chance of you having to take a random team. Since I'm online quite a bit, I might can make your pick faster than you could have to keep things rolling along.

3) This month rather than sending all the base cards in plastic cases, I'm going to try using team bags and decoys and/or bubble wrap. The number of boxes I went through last month was pretty high as some members got more than 1 box in their packages. I'm just going to try this for this month and see how it goes. If everyone's cards are delivered undamaged, and I'm confident they will be, this is how I'll do it from here on out. Before I decided this I sent PMs to several other premier group box hosts on TCC and this was overwhelmingly the way they claim to ship the cards from their breaks.

4) Do not include the words "group break" anywhere with your PayPal payment, as it could lead to an account suspension. Instead, just leave your TCC username. I'll know what the payment is for.

I think that's it. If your name isn't in bold above, please post here or PM me that you'll be keeping your spot this month.

Attention: We are still accepting members on our waiting list. If you would like to be added to the waiting list, please post in one of our threads, or PM me.

Posted by: sahetu May 31 2009, 03:32 PM

In, paid (Andrew H.)

You can keep base from my teams, as before.

Posted by: josh3302 May 31 2009, 03:36 PM

I'm in again. I'll send payment by the end of the week

Posted by: sgmco May 31 2009, 03:43 PM

In

Posted by: northicehero99 May 31 2009, 03:47 PM

In again.

Posted by: mjda May 31 2009, 03:50 PM

Thanks guys. I've got you all set as confirmed.

Thanks again to you too sahetu. If anyone else doesn't want their base, please let me know. Even if you didn't want yours last month, let me know again this month.

Posted by: mjda May 31 2009, 03:54 PM

Guys, one thing I forgot to include in the 2nd post is this:

Do not include the words "group break" anywhere with your PayPal payment, as it could lead to an account suspension. Instead, just leave your TCC username. I'll know what the payment is for.

Posted by: Oilers4ever May 31 2009, 03:55 PM

I'm in again, I'll get payment to you soon!

Posted by: sahetu May 31 2009, 04:01 PM

Don't forget to mark me as paid.

Posted by: mjda May 31 2009, 04:06 PM

Got you marked as paid Andrew. Thanks!

Posted by: road_runner_1964 May 31 2009, 05:35 PM

I am in, PM me your addy...

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 1 2009, 10:35 AM

Payment sent, thanks again!

Posted by: Hlrazr Jun 1 2009, 11:14 AM

I'm out guys....good luck!

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 1 2009, 11:57 AM

i am out as well. good luck to all you fine folks.

thanks,

doug

Posted by: sgmco Jun 1 2009, 12:08 PM

Awsome-----NEW BLOOD

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 12:52 PM

I just sent a PM to cclmcvay, who showed interest last month in 2 spots. I'm also still waiting on a reply from Ken (kooljazz) for another spot we need to fill.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 12:53 PM

I'll get this confirmed as soon as I'm home from work. I don't check my PayPal or personal email from our work computers. I'll be home in a little over 3 hours and will mark you as paid then.

Posted by: Tromni Jun 1 2009, 01:41 PM

I'm out this month. Last time was fun, but we bought a house and I'll be spending my money on that for the forseeable future.

Best of luck all!

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 03:27 PM

I know how that goes! I just bought a house myself a little over a year ago. Good luck with your new lifelong project.

PM sent to DCool about this spot.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 04:17 PM

I have received payment from Oilers4ever, and his status has been updated in the first post.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 04:41 PM

Chris (cclmcvay) has confirmed via PM that he will take 2 spots in the group. Thanks Chris! I've got you down.

Posted by: Axe725 Jun 1 2009, 07:25 PM

I"m in again will send payment end of week

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 07:40 PM

Sounds good! Thanks! I've got your marked as confirmed.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 08:28 PM

DCool has confirmed that he will take a spot via PM. Thanks DCool! I've got you on the list!

Posted by: DCool Jun 1 2009, 08:40 PM

Thanks! I'm very excited as this is my first ever group break! Payment has been sent.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 08:51 PM

Well hopefully I'll pull something sweet for you then!

Payment is confirmed, and your status has been updated.

Posted by: joey244 Jun 1 2009, 09:37 PM

Count me in for another month.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 09:39 PM

Thanks a ton Joey! I've got you marked as confirmed!

Posted by: crpalmi Jun 1 2009, 10:17 PM

I'm in again.

Posted by: mjda Jun 1 2009, 10:20 PM

Thanks Chris! I've got you marked as confirmed!

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 1 2009, 11:58 PM

I'm in again!!

Posted by: Pete Jun 2 2009, 06:50 AM

I'd like to join the waiting list please, and congrats on member of the month!

Posted by: aceecards Jun 2 2009, 07:12 AM

bob should be sending you my funds for this month and next!

then I will have to decide!

Posted by: mjda Jun 2 2009, 07:25 AM

Thanks Brian, I've got you as confirmed.

Peter, thanks for joining! I've got you added to the waiting list. Also, thanks again for the congratulations.

Steve, I've got you marked as confirmed for this month and I'll get you as confirmed next month when it rolls around as well. Thanks!

Posted by: mjda Jun 2 2009, 12:07 PM

Just a reminder guys. If your name isn't in bold in the initial post, you still need to confirm that you're still in for this month. I'll send PMs to the unconfirmed members tomorrow evening.

Attention: If would like to be added to our waiting list, please post in the thread or feel free to PM me anytime.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 2 2009, 05:41 PM

Payment sent.

Posted by: mjda Jun 2 2009, 06:11 PM

I have, indeed, received your payment Bob. Thanks!

Posted by: mjda Jun 2 2009, 09:02 PM

Payment has been received from northicehero99. Thanks! I have you marked as paid!

Posted by: mjda Jun 3 2009, 06:04 PM

I've sent PMs to all the members who haven't confirmed their spots yet. I have received replies from pavi39, abcdefg, THUNDER9, and Herdfan13 who will all be joining us again for June. Thanks guys! I've got you all marked as confirmed.

Posted by: bajmurray Jun 3 2009, 06:22 PM

I would like to be added to your waiting list.

Thanks!

Posted by: mjda Jun 3 2009, 06:47 PM

You got it Brian! Thanks! I'll PM you as soon as a spot becomes available.

Posted by: mjda Jun 3 2009, 07:51 PM

Jackstraw has decided to opt out of the group for June. I have sent a PM to the next person on the waiting list, baseballguy601.

Posted by: mjda Jun 5 2009, 07:01 AM

Just a reminder guys that payments are due in 5 days. I will wait until this evening for the 2 guys on the waiting list I'm expecting PMs from. If I don't hear from them by then, I'll move on down the list.

Also, since nobody has said anything about the box selection I assume it looks good to everyone.

Finally, if any of you guys plan on submitting proxy lists for the draft, you can go ahead and do so now. My email address is in the first post in this thread, or you can PM your list to me.

PS-I may not be as active for a few days because one of my hard drives died on me yesterday so I'll refrain from using my home computer as often as normal until I can get it replaced and have my raid rebuilt.

Posted by: maple19 Jun 5 2009, 09:45 AM

payment sent

mike

Posted by: Axe725 Jun 5 2009, 10:09 AM

payment sent

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 5 2009, 11:45 AM

Box selection looks good to me. I like the Football representation as it makes more members have a chance at one of the top rookie teams available by having two years. Still the same risk that those teams may or may not have a hit, but at least a nice mix.

Posted by: mjda Jun 5 2009, 11:50 AM

All payments received to this point have been updated in the first post. Thanks guys!

Posted by: mjda Jun 6 2009, 09:19 AM

phinsfan77 has agreed to take one of the empty spots in the group, and has already paid. Thanks!

I had sent PMs to kooljazz1966 and baseballguy601 that both went unanswered for 48 hours. Because of this I went on to the next ones in line on the waiting list. We're now still needing to fill 1 spot, and a PM has been sent to pwolantern.

Posted by: Luke2411 Jun 6 2009, 09:39 AM

Payment Sent.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 6 2009, 04:40 PM

Any way we can get 2009 UD Series 2 as one of the Boxes for this month? They really are sweet

Posted by: mjda Jun 6 2009, 04:43 PM

That might be better for next month because we'd have to give up 09 Bowman Jumbo in exchange and I'm not sure that'd be a very good trade.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 6 2009, 04:50 PM

You get 3 Autos in Bowman Jumbo, and one of the is a boxtopper auto, which is never good, and only 1 chrome auto. In UD Series 2, you get...

1 20th Aniversary Buyback card from 1989
1 Auto
2 GU's
1 Boxtopper (If you don't get a boxtopper you get a Hot Box which has 15 Hits out of 16 Packs)

There are an overload of hot-boxes produced by UD's mistake. All Hot Boxes have 15 Hits in 16 Packs.

Posted by: mjda Jun 6 2009, 05:10 PM

Well I'm up for whatever. If we get several more people in the group who'd want to make this switch we can surely do it. Let me know what you think guys.

Posted by: dabeastlykid Jun 7 2009, 06:44 AM

what sport is UD series 2?

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 7 2009, 08:32 AM

baseball

Posted by: sahetu Jun 7 2009, 08:36 AM

i'd like a shot at ud2... who knows, we could luck out!

Posted by: dabeastlykid Jun 7 2009, 10:49 AM

ya alright that sounds good

Posted by: crpalmi Jun 7 2009, 02:30 PM

Sorry about the delay... payment has been sent.

Posted by: mjda Jun 7 2009, 05:02 PM

All members who I have received payment from have their status in the initial post updated.

Again, I'd like to ask please do not use the term "group break" along with your PayPal payment. Just include your TCC username and I'll know what the payment is for. PayPal has possibly started banning accounts receiving large numbers of "group break" payments.

Posted by: mjda Jun 8 2009, 12:26 PM

Wow! We're really running through the waiting list this month. It's went from 7 waiting members to just 2. All my PMs have either went unanswered, or the member changed their minds about joining. Nevertheless, we'll get it filled.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that payments are due Wednesday (2 days). If I don't have you marked as Paid it means I haven't yet received your payment. Let's try to get em in as soon as possible.

Posted by: DCool Jun 8 2009, 02:03 PM

Just out of curiosity...what does Paypal have against group box breaks?

Posted by: mjda Jun 8 2009, 04:07 PM

I guess they feel it's a form of gambling.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 8 2009, 04:59 PM

I thought the bigger issue is that there have been some scammers on you-tube claiming they were doing a box break and then taking the payments, then not doing the breaks but by the time everyone is aware the accounts were cleaned out, so paypal had no way to collect, but had to cover the people ripped off?

Posted by: Herdfan13 Jun 8 2009, 08:54 PM

Paypal Sent

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 9 2009, 12:38 AM

Payment sent,

Thanks, Mike

Posted by: Pete Jun 9 2009, 01:43 AM

I'll take that spot. Payment sent. Thanks

Posted by: mjda Jun 9 2009, 06:53 AM

Ok guys, we have received about half the payments. We still need to get 14 more in before tomorrow. I'll send PMs to all the unpaid members this afternoon.

Also, I haven't heard from many people about switching the bowman jumbo box to UD series 2 baseball. If nobody else has a problem with it, I'll go ahead and make that switch today as well.

Attention: If you would like to be added to he waiting list, please post here or PM me.

Posted by: mjda Jun 9 2009, 10:49 AM

Since it's not looking like anyone is going to be against switching the Bowman Jumbo for UD Series 2, I went ahead and made the adjustments on the main page. That also freed up another $20 to use on something else. Instead of just buying a lot of small packs, I went ahead and added a pack of 2007 Ultimate football, since that was the sport with the least amount of hits. That box runs about $44, but I'll cover the extra cost again this month just so we get a pack of something that we know we're going to get a hit in rather than several packs that could be all base.

Reminder: Payments are due tomorrow. If I do not have you marked as Paid, please get your payment in as soon as possible.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 9 2009, 11:41 AM

Thanks, that was very nice of you. Lets get payments in so we can get the draft rolling.

Posted by: DCool Jun 9 2009, 01:32 PM

Thank you mjda, that was indeed very cool of you. I have no problems with the switch either.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 9 2009, 02:11 PM

Question. For UD Series 2, will the USA Autos or GU's go to the team they end up drafted for today or will it be random?

Posted by: mjda Jun 9 2009, 02:43 PM

If there's no team or logo written on the card it will go to a random drawing. The only exception is if it's a rookie card in their college uniform. In that case, the cards go to the team they play for (like last month's Sage).

Posted by: mjda Jun 9 2009, 06:09 PM

PMs were just sent out to all the members who haven't paid yet. Hopefully we'll get them all in tomorrow so we can get the draft started.

Reminder: You can now submit proxy lists to me with your draft order so that I can make your picks for you when you're not around. This should definitely help the draft move along quite a bit faster than last month. I've also begun work on a new feature which will allow you to create your preference lists directly on the draft board. Hopefully that part of it will be ready for July's break. Until then though, if you have the time, please make me a proxy list to use.

Posted by: yodude91 Jun 9 2009, 11:20 PM

payment sent !

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 9 2009, 11:28 PM

Payment sent!!!

Posted by: mjda Jun 10 2009, 07:12 AM

Thanks guys! All payments that I've received should now be reflected in the initial post. Again, today is the due date so let's get 'em in guys!

Posted by: sgmco Jun 10 2009, 07:49 AM

payment sent

Posted by: mjda Jun 10 2009, 08:06 AM

Thanks Jeff! Just 9 payments left to go! Let's get 'em all in today guys!

Posted by: mjda Jun 11 2009, 07:07 AM

Let's get some more payments in guys! Just 7 more to go! It would be really nice to get them in by the weekend to start the draft.

Posted by: mjda Jun 12 2009, 06:43 AM

We're still looking for the last few payments guys! Let's get em in today!

Posted by: mjda Jun 12 2009, 04:16 PM

d3foot10k has decided to withdraw from the group. Rather than going to the waiting list this far in to the month, I'm going to go ahead and take his spot.

If we can get a few more payments we're waiting on we can start the draft, so let's get em in guys!

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 12 2009, 04:42 PM

don't take the last one. I can pay right now and I would take it. I had to drop for this month but I got my bonus check so I am good.

just let me know and i will send immediately,

doug

Posted by: mjda Jun 12 2009, 04:43 PM

Doug, I'm glad to see you back! I've PMed you with the PayPal info.

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 12 2009, 05:14 PM

payment sent. let's get some hits!!!!

thanks,

doug

Posted by: joey244 Jun 12 2009, 05:59 PM

Payment sent

Posted by: mjda Jun 12 2009, 07:09 PM

Got you both marked as payed. Thanks guys! I'll send another round of PMs to the rest of the unpaid members shortly.

Posted by: bob_TCC Jun 13 2009, 02:42 AM

Micheal,

I'm in again and I just sent payment for my spot and Steve's spot via PayPal.

-Bob

Posted by: mjda Jun 13 2009, 10:57 AM

Thanks Bob! Just a few more payments left to get now and we can get started. Come on guys, let's get em in!

Posted by: mjda Jun 14 2009, 01:50 PM

To keep things moving along this month, I'm going to give the last 2 members a few more days to make their payments. If they don't make them, I'm going to take their spots. I'd really like to get this draft moving. I'll be sending them another round of PMs (making 3 total) shortly.

Posted by: mwagner24 Jun 14 2009, 02:05 PM

sorry for the wait michael....payment coming today..thanks

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 15 2009, 04:47 PM

Michael...I will be more than happy to split the additonal spots if necessary...if we have to go that route.

Posted by: mjda Jun 16 2009, 08:23 AM

Guys, I have a bit of bad news. My router at home went out and ATT won't have my new one here for 2-3 days. Whether I have received the final payment or not when my new router comes in, I'll do the draft order video and we'll start the draft. I really wanted to have the video tonight, but I have no control over this problem. I've been trying to locate a backup modem/router, but have had no luck so far. Again, as soon as I can get something working I'll do the draft order video and we'll start the draft. Sorry about this guys, but there's nothing I can do about it.

Bob, I'll send you a PM regarding the unpaid spots.

Posted by: mjda Jun 16 2009, 09:09 AM

Looks like I may have jumped the gun a little on that last message. My cousin just called me and told me she was going to bring me her router in the morning since she's going to have a baby tomorrow. She'll be gone till at least Thursday afternoon, and my replacement should be here by then. With that said, it looks like we'll be able to have the draft order video tomorrow night. I'll give an exact time once I've got the router up in the morning, but most likely it'll be around 7:30pm-8:00pm EST.

Posted by: maple19 Jun 16 2009, 09:29 AM

thats sound fine

mike

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 16 2009, 02:45 PM

So Wednesday at 7:30-8 EST?

Posted by: mjda Jun 16 2009, 03:00 PM

It's looking like it so far, but let me make sure I get my cousin's router in the morning to verify. As soon as I get my internet at home back up I'll post a confirmed time. Go ahead and plan for 8pm EST tomorrow, and I'll post again in the morning to confirm that.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 16 2009, 03:26 PM

just draft me some good spots brother!!

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 16 2009, 03:31 PM

I have a good feeling this draft is going to take us into July!!!

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 16 2009, 03:37 PM

It shouldn't with the new time limit and requests for proxy lists.

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 16 2009, 03:50 PM

the over/under is 10 days.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 16 2009, 06:54 PM

I agree, it should go a bit faster this time, especially if each of us keeps a better watch on our spot and if necessary submits a proxy list, based on when we will be around or when our pick is.

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 07:21 AM

First of all, my cousin did bring her modem (she didn't have a router so my other computers are still down), so the draft order video will be tonight at 8:00pm EST. I hope to see you all there!

Also, this isn't exactly true I'm afraid. Bob hasn't been around nearly as much as I'd liked this month as some of you I'm sure are aware. That said, we didn't get anything new implemented on the script. I guess Bob has just been really busy at work and hasn't had time for much other than just checking in from time to time. I'm sure we can all relate to some of that. Hopefully the draft still won't take forever, especially if everyone will keep a close eye on it, but it is possible that the draft could take as long as it did last month.

Next month I'll be taking a week vacation to San Antonio with my family, so I was thinking about possibly skipping the break for July. What do you guys think about that? I'm thinking that would give Bob and I a whole extra month to try and get the necessary changes made to the draft board. That would also give us an extra month to find some members to fill the gaps we gained this month. That would also mean I wouldn't be here for a week during "draft time". Let me know what you guys think. If everyone still wants to do it we can, but my preference would be to take a month off to get some kinks worked out. We now know what they are, and how to fix them. It's just a matter of Bob and I being at the same place at the same time so to speak.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 17 2009, 07:36 AM

I think we should gun for september!

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 10:01 AM

It shouldn't take that long really. I mean, I've already got the programming part worked out. I just need Bob around so that we can implement those. I would think we could get it all sorted in a month. However, I also thought we'd be able to get it done before this month's break too.

Posted by: DCool Jun 17 2009, 10:30 AM

I'm ok with taking a 1 month break as well, as I will be actually moving out of my apartment by the end of July and will need some time to sort things out.

On a different note, is the draft confirmed for tonight?

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 17 2009, 11:28 AM

Taking a month off is fine.

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 11:42 AM

Yep! My cousin brought me her modem, so we'll be able to have the draft order video tonight at 8:00pm EST.

Posted by: crpalmi Jun 17 2009, 12:32 PM

Yep, a month off still works for me!

Posted by: sahetu Jun 17 2009, 12:33 PM

Works for me as well, although I believe this is my last month...

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 06:05 PM

Just 1 hour to go guys! I'll have the broadcast up in about 45 minutes.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tcc-multi-sport-team-hbc

Posted by: aceecards Jun 17 2009, 06:10 PM

Only use my proxy if I am not around please.

I will be gone Sunday most of the day so that would be ok!

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 06:55 PM

The draft randomization video is starting in 5 minutes guys!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tcc-multi-sport-team-hbc

Posted by: sgmco Jun 17 2009, 07:17 PM

can't see the randomizer----care to share????????

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 07:19 PM

The draft order randomization video is complete, and saved.

northicehero99 is on the clock!

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 07:27 PM

The draft order has been updated on the first page of this thread as well now.

http://www.tradingcardcentral.com/apps/gbb/draft.php

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 17 2009, 07:29 PM

With pick #1, northicehero99 selects the Pittsburgh Penguins in Hockey.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to maple19 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 07:32 PM

Well, northicehero99 made his pick, but it posted it in the old thread.

I'll send a PM out to Bob right now to see if he can get this fixed for us tonight. A PM should still have been sent to the next member in line.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 17 2009, 07:34 PM

Moved that post here.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 17 2009, 07:40 PM

3 more before I pick...I'll come back 1 or 2 hours...

BTW, taking a month off is fine!

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 17 2009, 07:49 PM

Getting this out there early, but my third or fourth round picks of either basketball or baseball would be tradeable for a third or fourth round hockey pick. PM me if interested.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 17 2009, 07:51 PM

PM sent

Posted by: THUNDER9 Jun 17 2009, 09:22 PM

Taking a month off is cool with me.

Posted by: THUNDER9 Jun 17 2009, 09:43 PM

OK - MY DRAFT ORDER...
RD 1 - 24th
RD 2 - 23rd
RD 3 - 27th
RD 4 - 3rd WOOHOO

What another great break I'm looking forward to! On top of the draft taking the next 10 days. Sorry to sound so bitter...oh wait..I AM BITTER - Know what, just randomize my picks for me. I'm screwed anyways. I know it's just $25 bucks, but this will be my last month, because after only getting 2 parallel inserts and about $4 in base cards last month, I went out and bought 4 boxes because I was so mad about not getting any hits! Maybe the "MOJO GODS" will shine down upon me with multible hits this month after I badmouth the heck out of them! Yes, I'm ranting and not following the "10 second rule" before typing out my displeasure ( And remember, this is nothing personal) but this is frustrating and annoying and doesn't make me enjoy the hobby very much!
Again, seriously, just randon my picks for me. I don't want to hold up anything and I sure don't want to know how great the hits were that I didn't get!

Posted by: mjda Jun 17 2009, 09:59 PM

Sorry about your frustration Jeff. You just have to remember, it could have happened to anyone.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 17 2009, 10:05 PM

sorry about the bad draft order....but it really is all up to the boxes....I got my semi-good hit (Dexter Fowler Refractor auto) last month from a pick in the third round...

Posted by: aceecards Jun 17 2009, 10:16 PM

that is why i support the snake draft at least you dont always lose every round.

Posted by: sahetu Jun 17 2009, 10:19 PM

Geez, Thunder, chill... You could of spent the $25 on blasters or packs and gotten nil anyway.

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 18 2009, 01:11 AM

I'm in the same boat like NorthIcehero99... if anyone wants a 3rd or 4th round Basketball or Baseball pick for a hockey or football pick PM me

Thanks... and lets hope for a speedy draft this month

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 18 2009, 07:27 AM

I agree.

Draft order has as little or as much to do with it as you want to apply. My first round, second round, and third round teams (traded for) failed me miserably last month without a hit. The only team I did not pick since 29th in the 4th round, was the only team that delivered a hit, basketball. It is the nature of the boxes versus what team you pick. You could have all top teams and get squat, because the boxes were all scrubsville hits. That is the nature of a box break. There are 30 people with less than that or slightly more than that in hits, so not everyone is going to get something, especially when a box runs with the same teams hits. Last month I was ok with getting 1 hit, when I looked and saw some got none. I think the most anyone got was 3 hits?, and the average was 1 hit? per member or so.

What made last month more fun for me was trading a team from a sport I did not like for a sport I collect (traded baseball for hockey) and watching the breaks hoping one of us got something really decent. If I don't get something great, I really hope that one of us does, that is kind of the idea behind doing a group break. Hoping someone in the community of your group break does well.

I think what we all need to remember is that this is for fun, and that there are risks.

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 18 2009, 07:37 AM

i agree

Posted by: aceecards Jun 18 2009, 08:09 AM

Although I agree about the fun aspect..

I still feel that in thunders case this month, mine last month and in other similar to us.. the random draft order for each round just can punish a person.

Im all about luck and odds and etc..

But I paid the same amount of money you did for each of the three conducted or being conducted. YOU have recd the first overall pick twice! I get to pick 7th for the first time ever in any round?

The feeling that you AT LEAST have a chance to get a hit of your favorite team, far outweighs the feeling that you got HOSED before it starts.!

In all fairness Brian.. The random draft each round is for the birds.. FUN or not!

Posted by: aceecards Jun 18 2009, 08:12 AM

And Brian dont think Im singling you out for having the Phenomenal luck of getting the First overall pick twice out of three breaks.. Im just trying to put the fact that at least you got a chance to get your favorite team.. if the stars align and so forth..

Thunder9 ...odds are.. will not even sniff his chance for his favorite team.

There is a huge difference between perception and reality as you are well aware!

Posted by: maple19 Jun 18 2009, 09:11 AM

With pick #2, maple19 selects the New York Yankees in Baseball.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to Pete in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: Pete Jun 18 2009, 09:40 AM

With pick #3, Pete selects the Chicago Bulls in Basketball.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to mikeadd10 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 18 2009, 09:41 AM

I think you have good points, acee, but I think that this is for fun. we should put it to a vote to decide between the way it is now and a snake draft. I would probably vote for a snake draft as well.

that being said, Last break I had these picks:
1st round 25
2nd round 24
3rd round 29
4th round 15

this break:
1st round 25
2nd round 3 (wheeee!)
3rd round 26
4th round 22

and I am not up here complaining. that is what we all signed up for. we knew how it would be upon signing up and we all have to live with it. I think that Thunder's post was unsportsmanlike and wildly inappropriate. I was in the same situation and I didn't react that way. There is a proper way to suggest a better draft procedure. being polite is important here because this site is for fun and networking ( I think, anyway).

just my opinion. I welcome your opinions

thanks and good luck to everyone,

doug

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 18 2009, 09:45 AM

With pick #4, mikeadd10 selects the Columbus Blue Jackets in Hockey.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to Canucksfan1812 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: sahetu Jun 18 2009, 09:50 AM

Yeah I'm stuck in the middle of the pack myself and I'm not complaining at all. I do this for fun when I can afford it. If I wanted "hits" or team cards I'd buy singles or my own boxes.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 18 2009, 09:54 AM

Michael....I will get you my pretty....

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 18 2009, 10:26 AM

I tried letting them slip into the second round last time and that didn't work and not only that... the potential they have this month was TOO much to pass up on...
and last but not least the Canadiens have a total of 2/3 hits in the BAP and quite a few in the Artifacts but....not the same potential...

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 18 2009, 03:14 PM

Fortunately the Mason BAP 264/xxx is up on the bay, so I will snag it...

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 18 2009, 03:35 PM

Nice PC pickup...
I'm sure we'd have been able to work something out had I picked up any card you needed that was #'ed 264/xxx.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 18 2009, 03:49 PM

I stated my opinion in the last draft!

I think a more fair structure to all parties is a two round snake

1-30 30-1

then you can random again and do the last two rounds the same snake with a new draft order!

It is fair, equitable and eliminates complaints!

Posted by: crpalmi Jun 18 2009, 03:58 PM

I'd agree for next month (or whenever we start back up after this one). I like the snake draft as well. Any chance of making it a "keeper" group where you can retain one team from month to month making it just a 3 round draft?

Posted by: mjda Jun 18 2009, 04:17 PM

Next month we won't have a break. However, I'm instead going to still start a new thread at the beginning of the month so we can discuss/vote on things we'd like to see different. I'm not completely opposed to anything, as long as the group remains successful. I do like the idea of having at least 1 "keeper" team also if everyone else likes the idea. However, I would suggest we still keep it that each member can only end up with 1 team from each sport. Meaning if you were to have a football team as your "keeper" team, you wouldn't be able to draft another football team. Again, we'll talk about it all next month. If anyone else has any other ideas, please let me know about those too. I'll be glad to talk about anything to make the group better, and more enjoyable, for everyone involved.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 18 2009, 06:07 PM

is the good doctor on the clock??

Posted by: mjda Jun 18 2009, 06:14 PM

Canucksfan1812 is on the clock.

http://www.tradingcardcentral.com/apps/gbb/draft.php

Posted by: sgmco Jun 18 2009, 06:15 PM

i know without a snake draft I'm out---first 3 rounds in the mid 20's just ain't right

Posted by: sahetu Jun 18 2009, 08:19 PM

How is it not "right"?! It's RANDOM. Is going to the store and getting three lottery tickets and losing not "right?" Going to the card shop and buying 4 packs and not getting a hit - that's not "right?" We all had the same odds.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 18 2009, 08:58 PM

With pick #5, Canucksfan1812 selects the Boston Red Sox in Baseball.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to Luke2411 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 18 2009, 09:02 PM

Steve I know you are not singling me out, but the reality is what did that 1st pick from over a year ago net me? A holofx of Patrick Kane that books $15, an ok hit, but the au and gu hits went to guys who picked hockey teams after me so again your slot does not matter, what matters is getting the "lucky" feeling for picking the right team in whatever position you have. Again my last pick #119 was the only pick for me last month that brought me a au/gu. 118 people passed on that team, but I got a hit.

So if you do a snake I don't get to pick until 60 how is that any fairer than random? I get one team I want then have to watch 58 people take all the other teams I have an interest in? If there were 15 people I might say snake is fairer, because at least then a whole sport could not be wiped out but for someone to wait 58 picks to their next seems unfair in my opinion as nearly two sports could be wiped out. Same with the guy who gets lucky enough to get #2 or #3 or #4 they have to wait 57 or 56 or 55 picks? And the people picking later in round 1 are not gaining any benefit from an early pick in round 2 considering 20 some people went ahead of them, so the top teams in each sport are gone anyway. I really think the method we are using is the fairest.

I agree Thunder9 will not get his team and I am sorry his random picks went that way, but it is a risk each of us took when we paid our $25. And so the stars aligned for me this month, will they next month who knows (I hope not if it is changed to a snake draft as I don't want to pick 1 and 60 ), probably not, if they do I am definitely going to buy some lottery tickets.

One thing I will note though is I think if we do random, that maybe a fresh original list should be used for each randomization round, so we are starting from square 1. I know it is randomizing but sometimes I think things get stuck in positions in the randomizing process even when doing them multiple times.

Posted by: sgmco Jun 18 2009, 09:30 PM

well said and as Brian said even using snake guys are gonna get jobbed-----I do hear most lottery Tickets have a winner every 4-5 tickets though

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 18 2009, 09:52 PM

yep every 5th one wins a $1, or a free ticket for a 4 in 5 chance for a loser.

At least it keeps my taxes lower, I think?!?!

Posted by: Luke2411 Jun 19 2009, 02:31 AM

With pick #6, Luke2411 selects the Dallas Cowboys in Football.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to aceecards in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 19 2009, 06:06 AM

With pick #7, aceecards selects the Baltimore Ravens in Football.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to yodude91 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: yodude91 Jun 19 2009, 07:57 AM

With pick #8, yodude91 selects the Los Angeles Lakers in Basketball.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to Oilers4ever in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 19 2009, 08:20 PM

......screeeeeeechh.....

Lets go Gentlemen....

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 20 2009, 01:48 AM

With pick #9, Oilers4ever selects the Tampa Bay Rays in Baseball.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to DCool in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 20 2009, 05:08 AM

Sorry for the hold-up, I was moving to my new place all day and didn't get hooked back up until late into the night.

Posted by: DCool Jun 20 2009, 10:13 AM

With pick #10, DCool selects the San Francisco 49ers in Football.

An e-mail and PM were just sent to pavi39 in order to request that the next pick be made quickly.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 20 2009, 10:27 AM

...hmmmmmm.....which way does pavi39 go??????

Posted by: pavi39 Jun 20 2009, 12:05 PM

I don't think there's too much of a question on that one......if I could make my pick.

The draft board shows me that dcool is still drafting even though I got a message.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 20 2009, 12:57 PM

Yep, your right....hmmmm.....better get mjda on it.....

Posted by: mjda Jun 20 2009, 03:39 PM

I wonder if something happened to the DB so that it picked up in a previous state, or maybe there was an error writing to the database. The board also shows the 49ers as still available, so something either didn't get written, or was overwritten.

To keep things moving along this month I'm sending pavi39 a PM to just post his pick here. We'll finish this month's draft up in the thread. This will also help move a bit faster because I do have some proxy lists for some people and with a post style draft I'll be able to use it.

EDIT: I've also disabled the draft board for the remainder of the month so it doesn't get confusing as how to make your selection.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 20 2009, 04:54 PM

But someone can easily edit their picks if we do it on here??

Posted by: pavi39 Jun 20 2009, 05:09 PM

I'll take the Green Bay Packers.

PM on it's way to road runner

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 20 2009, 05:28 PM

grrrrr.....

I will take the Minnesota Vikings

PM on the way to mjda

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 20 2009, 05:51 PM

Bob can track the thread for changes made via the programming. In addition, I am guessing that Michael is tracking the picks offline. So if someone should change it we can easily find out. In addition, the main post can only be edited by Michael or a team member.

Posted by: mjda Jun 20 2009, 06:03 PM

I'm going to take the Cleveland Cavaliers. PM heading out to abcdefg.

Posted by: mjda Jun 20 2009, 06:11 PM

I'd really like to think that nobody would be dishonest here. However, as Brian said, Bob is able to see whether or not a post has been edited. I've also set my phone up to ring me when new posts are made so I can get to a computer to update the initial thread as soon as possible.

IMPORTANT: Remember that each member can still only select 1 team from each sport. In the event that someone selects a 2nd team from any sport, any progress made after that selection will be wiped out and that person will have to select again. Please try to keep up with what sports you have already selected from.

Posted by: abcdefg Jun 20 2009, 10:53 PM

I'll take the Detroit Lions...

Posted by: crpalmi Jun 20 2009, 11:14 PM

I'll take the Falcons.

Posted by: Axe725 Jun 21 2009, 08:13 AM

I will take the Cincinnati Reds

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 21 2009, 09:00 AM

hmmmmm......I will go with the New York Jets

dabeastlykid is on the clock, PM being sent...

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 09:11 AM

dabeastlykid submitted a proxy list, but the only team he specified is already taken. For everything else he simply put "random". I really would rather not give anyone a random team unless they fail to make the time limit, so I'm going to give dabeastlykid his full 12 hours. He said he would be back today anyways in the PM, so hopefully it won't be all day. I would just feel bad if the randomizer gave him the team he actually wanted least.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 21 2009, 09:19 AM

Are there any teams on there that he listed as one of his favorite teams for the 4 sports in his sig?

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 09:20 AM

He only left me with 1 team. That team is already taken. Like I said though, he would be back on again today anyways. Maybe he's home already.

Posted by: sahetu Jun 21 2009, 09:29 AM

Michael, please remember you can pick any team for me. I don't care what.

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 10:51 AM

Guys, we're going to Oklahoma to eat today for father's day. In the event that dabeastlykid and Josh both make their picks before I get back, I'm selecting the San Antonio Spurs. I think I'm safe in saying that neither of those guys will take them. If dabeastlykid still hasn't made his pick by the time I get back (several hours from now), I will just randomize him one as requested via PM.

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 05:00 PM

Before dabeastlykid left he PMed me a proxy list of teams to select on his behalf in case he wasn't here. The first team on his list was the New York Jets. Since they were already taken, I moved on to his second pick, which was a random football team. I used random.org to determine his pick, and with his first pick in the draft dabeastlykid selects the Philadelphia Eagles.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1693897

PM heading out to josh3302.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 21 2009, 06:37 PM

I'll take the LA Dodgers

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 21 2009, 06:39 PM

mjda takes the Spurs, PM going out to sahetu

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 21 2009, 07:36 PM

Front page updated.

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 07:57 PM

Thanks Bob!

Posted by: sahetu Jun 21 2009, 07:58 PM

I'll take the NY Giants - Football.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 21 2009, 08:03 PM

PM sent to sgmco

Posted by: sgmco Jun 21 2009, 08:24 PM

Washington Capitals

Posted by: mjda Jun 21 2009, 08:29 PM

PM going out to joey244.

Posted by: joey244 Jun 22 2009, 08:40 AM

I will take the Detroit Red Wings.

Posted by: joey244 Jun 22 2009, 08:49 AM

PM sent to thunder

Posted by: THUNDER9 Jun 22 2009, 12:38 PM

pittsburg steelers

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 22 2009, 12:42 PM

montreal canadiens

thanks,

doug

Posted by: mjda Jun 22 2009, 12:52 PM

PM sent out to mwagner24.

Posted by: mwagner24 Jun 22 2009, 02:11 PM

I will take the BEars

pm sent to phinsfan77

Posted by: phinsfan77 Jun 22 2009, 02:13 PM

ill take the miami dolphins

Posted by: mjda Jun 22 2009, 02:55 PM

PM sent to Herdfan13.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 22 2009, 04:57 PM

moving along fast today!!!LOL

Posted by: Herdfan13 Jun 22 2009, 10:10 PM

I will take the New England Patriots

Posted by: mjda Jun 22 2009, 11:41 PM

PM sent to Bob.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 11:24 AM

Are there any CZT members who have a way of contacting Bob to ask what team he'd like to take? If we haven't heard by the time I get off work, I'll just do a randomizer for him.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 04:26 PM

Ok, since Bob has gone over the 12 hour limit, I'm going to go ahead and make his pick for him based off the teams he picked last month. For the first round in this month's draft, on behalf of Bob, bob_TCC selects the Pittsburgh Pirates.

With the final pick in the first round of the draft mjda selects the Boston Celtics.

PM going out to DCool.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 04:37 PM

By the way, I have something you guys might like the look of:



Just a little incentive to get the draft done a little quicker! I guess it might've been more effective though had I posted the image sooner too.

Posted by: DCool Jun 23 2009, 04:57 PM

I'll take the Orlando Magic.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 06:16 PM

mjda selects the Oakland Raiders.

PM heading out to otter8418

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 06:19 PM

Nevermind this post! I'm an idiot!

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 23 2009, 06:23 PM

Wahoo round 2!!!

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 23 2009, 07:08 PM

hahaha

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 23 2009, 08:24 PM

miami heat.

thanks,

doug

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 23 2009, 08:33 PM

joey PM'd

Front page updated.

Posted by: joey244 Jun 23 2009, 08:38 PM

I will take the Denver Nuggets.

I would send a pm to Pete but I'm not sure who that is.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 23 2009, 08:43 PM

PM sent to Pete.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 23 2009, 08:44 PM

Same

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 09:14 PM

Thanks Brian and Bob, for helping me keep the front page up to date. I really appreciate it!

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 23 2009, 09:36 PM

No problem, just wanted to, in case the next person came in to pick.

Posted by: Pete Jun 23 2009, 10:22 PM

San Diego Padres

Posted by: Pete Jun 23 2009, 10:28 PM

PM sent to Bob

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 10:32 PM

Ok guys, I need your input on something. I've now had 2 members PM me regarding this, so let's see what everyone else thinks.

What do you guys think we should do with a card that is pulled that doesn't list a team or logo, and has the player wearing an olympic uniform?

The first option, which is the one I was going to go with since there wasn't a rule in place prior to the month, is that we just randomize the card to everyone in the group.

The other option, which is what's been suggested both times via PM, would be to give the card to the team the player currently plays for like we do with cards featuring players in their college uniform.


My choice would be to give the card to the team the player currently plays for, but we really didn't have anything in place for it prior to the month's start which is why I would've just randomized it. However, if the group would like to change that now, I'm all for it. Just keep in mind that changing it now might be a slight bit unfair to members who have already made their selections who might have made different selections had this rule been set.

Posted by: Pete Jun 23 2009, 10:39 PM

I'd agree with the team the player currently plays for.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 10:40 PM

Thanks for the input Pete. It's likely this is what the group will decide on. I just didn't want to make the decision by myself to set that rule in the middle of the month.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 23 2009, 10:41 PM

I am OK with giving it to the team he currently plays for since that may be why some members drafted certain team. However, I do believe that Prestige has undrafted free agents in it so you might have to random those off.

Posted by: mjda Jun 23 2009, 10:44 PM

Yeah, that's what we'll do. We'll treat those cards just like we did with Sage last month (hopefully there won't be that many though ). I'm just talking about the cards with olympic uniforms. Although there isn't much difference between the 2, I wanted to get input from the group before the break was finished and I just gave those cards out that way.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 24 2009, 05:34 AM

I do not think it is fair to change it. If it had been done before the drafting I would have been fine with it, but I would want a different Baseball team if it were changed and I can't get one

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 24 2009, 05:51 AM

I will select the Milwaukee Brewers....

PM headed to Brian....

Posted by: aceecards Jun 24 2009, 06:11 AM

olympic and college are both amatuer teams.. whats the difference!

drafted by a team he goes to that team regardless of uniform!

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 24 2009, 06:27 AM

Thats wrong though. You can't just bring it up during the draft. I brought it up well before the draft and the response was that they would be randomed. If I had known they wouldn't have been randomed then I would have drafted differently

Posted by: aceecards Jun 24 2009, 07:00 AM

whats the difference?

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 24 2009, 07:38 AM

Josh is right if you go back to post 72 and 73 in the topic it was discussed earlier as he asked the question and the response was random. It does not matter to me either way.

Posted by: sgmco Jun 24 2009, 07:49 AM

It does not matter to me either way either.

You would think it would only take one against to keep it as planned -----specially after being talked about and planned out one way ( dpost 72 and 73 ) prior to draft.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 24 2009, 07:58 AM

I will select the Indianapolis Colts


PM heading out to Oilers4ever

Posted by: mjda Jun 24 2009, 08:47 AM

I believe this is exactly what we'll do. Since Josh clearly made his first pick based on this decision it would be unfair to change it now, especially since it was already clear before the draft. Also, looking back, I don't see that anyone disagreed with the decision when it was discussed before either.

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 24 2009, 11:06 AM

I'll take the New Orleans Saints. PM going out to Bob.

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 24 2009, 11:14 AM

I've got an early pick in round 3. I'll glad pick the hockey or basketball team of your choice in exchange for a football team!

Posted by: Herdfan13 Jun 24 2009, 05:31 PM

Since the Capitals are already picked, I am willing to trade my Hockey for a football team. Make an offer and I will make the pick for you. PM me.

Posted by: mjda Jun 24 2009, 07:15 PM

It doesn't look like Bob will be on to make his pick by the 12 hour limit again.

Posted by: mjda Jun 24 2009, 10:49 PM

Ok guys, since it doesn't look like Bob is going to make his next pick, I went ahead and held a random drawing for his next selection. I really hated to have to do this, but I really had to. Sorry Bob.

bob_TCC selects the Minnesota Wild

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1708226

The next 2 members have submitted their picks to me via PM.

road_runner_1964 selects the St. Louis Cardinals

aceecards selects the St. Louis Blues

PM heading out to Axe725

Posted by: bob_TCC Jun 25 2009, 12:10 AM

Looks like I showed up too late again. Oh well... Go Wild!

Proceed.

-Bob

Posted by: Luke2411 Jun 25 2009, 12:53 AM

Michael,

I think the best thing to do right now is to leave the olympic cards for random since that was determined before the draft. But no one says you have to keep it that way for next month. I think they should go to the team they were drafted by, so if you want to make that the official policy then just make the change on the front page for next month's break.

Posted by: Axe725 Jun 25 2009, 06:46 AM

I will take the Washington Redskins

Posted by: aceecards Jun 25 2009, 06:54 AM

thanks for making my pick!

Again I agree that you dont change horses in the middle of the road and am thankful i didnt pick the nationals with my round 1 as planned ..

But I fail to see any difference or any need for discussion.

If a player was pictured in an amateur uniform and has been drafted why should there be any difference in how we treat it!

Posted by: mjda Jun 25 2009, 07:06 AM

PM going out to Canucksfan1812.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 25 2009, 03:54 PM

I agree with this. This probably should be the policy going forward to minimize randoms. We just need to be clear that this is only for recent draftees, and that someone like Elway (a multi year pro player) in a college uniform would go to the Broncos (team the player is most associated with), not his draft team of Baltimore. This might occur if we open Topps Magic in a future month.

Posted by: mjda Jun 25 2009, 04:14 PM

The reason I went with randomizing the cards off was simply because the main rules (the rules the group had originally) stated that cards would be determined by the team name and/or logo printed on the card. Since the olympic cards don't have a team name and/or logo printed on them, they couldn't be decided this way, and would have to be randomized. I just decided for last month to do the Sage based on their drafted team, because otherwise we would have had to randomize every card pulled from that box.

I see now that I got it wrong on the olympic cards, and I apologize. If I'm being honest, however, I didn't know that all olympic cards were "pre-draft" cards. I was almost certain that pro players played in the olympics as well. Again, I'm sorry I got it wrong.

Going forward in future months, I'd like to talk about possibly changing it so that cards go to the teams in this order:

1) Team name and/or logo printed on the card.
2) Uniform the player is wearing.
3) Team the player currently plays for.
4) Team the player played for the longest.
5) Team the player last played for.

This should get most cards going to a specific team, and those that it doesn't catch (players that go undrafted) will then be randomized.

Again, I'll be creating a thread for next month just so we can discuss any changes that anyone would like to see made.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 25 2009, 07:12 PM

sorry guys for the wait, I'll list my pick in a couple minutes!!

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 25 2009, 07:22 PM

I'll take Chicago Blackhawks of Hockey!!

Posted by: Luke2411 Jun 25 2009, 08:04 PM

will take the texas rangers. i am celebrating my anniversary so could someone pm the next person for me?

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 25 2009, 08:07 PM

Got ya covered Jeremy

Posted by: mjda Jun 25 2009, 09:13 PM

mikeadd10 sent me a proxy list for this round earlier today.

mikeadd10 selects the Denver Broncos

mjda selects the Phoenix Coyotes

Also, northicehero99 and I have agreed on a trade. I'm getting his basketball pick in the 4th round, and he's getting the Phoenix Coyotes. northicehero99, will you please confirm this trade here in the thread.

PM going out to sahetu.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 25 2009, 09:21 PM

I agree to this trade. Thanks again.

Posted by: mjda Jun 25 2009, 09:24 PM

Guys, I haven't been feeling very well today so I'm going to bed early. In case sahetu comes on and makes his pick tonight, with my next pick I'll take the Chicago White Sox. In the event sahetu takes them, I'll take the San Diego Chargers.

Posted by: sahetu Jun 25 2009, 09:54 PM

NY Mets

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 25 2009, 09:57 PM

MJDA takes the White Sox

PM going to Mwagner24

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 25 2009, 11:13 PM

updated for last two picks.

Posted by: mwagner24 Jun 26 2009, 12:40 AM

I will take the Cubs....pm coming to abcdefg

Posted by: phinsfan77 Jun 26 2009, 05:59 AM

im two picks away, but will be gone til this evening. if someone sees its my pick before i get back, ill take the atlanta braves or boston bruins. thanks

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 26 2009, 06:40 AM

Cubs selection has been updated.

Posted by: mjda Jun 26 2009, 10:15 AM

Let's get those picks in guys! These boxes are screaming at me, just tempting me to open them! This might actually be the hardest thing about doing these group breaks, is waiting to open the boxes once they're here. Haha!

Posted by: abcdefg Jun 26 2009, 11:23 AM

I'll take the Phillies...

Posted by: mjda Jun 26 2009, 11:32 AM

phinsfan77 selects the Atlanta Braves

PM going out to josh3302.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 26 2009, 11:36 AM

I will take the San Diego Chargers

I also Have a Trade to announce. A trade between Josh3302 and Oilers4ever has been agreed to

Oilers4ever will recieve the San Diego Chargers and some cards from me

Josh3302 will recieve the Tampa Bay Rays

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 26 2009, 11:37 AM

Oilers4ever please confirm that trade. Thanks

Posted by: mjda Jun 26 2009, 11:39 AM

PM sent to THUNDER9.

Posted by: josh3302 Jun 26 2009, 11:44 AM

Guys, for anybody that wants a hockey pick. I am willing to trade my 4th round pick (Hockey) for somebody's 4th round pick (Basketball or Football)

PM me if interested

Posted by: Oilers4ever Jun 26 2009, 02:39 PM

I agree with Josh's trade.

Posted by: mjda Jun 26 2009, 02:42 PM

The main page has been updated to reflect this trade.

Posted by: pavi39 Jun 26 2009, 03:34 PM

I think more people should start getting proxy lists in so we can get this thing moving (makes a not - get a proxy list to mjda). I bet we could get through this thing this weekend if we started getting these in.

Posted by: mjda Jun 26 2009, 03:37 PM

You're probably right! Look at the time we've saved with several of the picks already in the draft by people making lists, or at least stating which team they want next. My inbox is open folks, and I should be here all weekend!

Posted by: mjda Jun 27 2009, 07:33 AM

Since THUNDER9 hasn't made his pick within the 12 hour time limit, I have done a random drawing on available teams for his 2nd round selection.

THUNDER9 selects the Dallas Stars

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1719041

Posted by: mjda Jun 27 2009, 07:43 AM

dabeastlykid has submitted a proxy list and also told me that he won't be around on weekends from Fridays to Sundays. That said, I went ahead and did his random drawing now since he won't be back until tomorrow anyways. He stated that he wanted a random basketball team 2nd, so I only included the available basketball teams in his drawing.

dabeastlykid selects the Memphis Grizzlies

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1719063

PM going out to sgmco.

Posted by: mjda Jun 27 2009, 07:45 AM

Guys, I would like to encourage you all to submit to me a proxy list for the final 2 rounds. This will help to avoid some of these random drawings, and also make the draft finish a lot faster than it would otherwise.

Posted by: sgmco Jun 27 2009, 11:36 AM

Baltimore Orioles

Posted by: mjda Jun 27 2009, 11:38 AM

PM going out to maple19.

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 27 2009, 12:46 PM

Maybe we can make up some ground today.

Posted by: mikeadd10 Jun 27 2009, 04:49 PM

Looks like we hit another roadblock :S

I would have left my proxy lift (since I won't be back for a few hours...got myself a soccer tournament)
Hopefully it will have moved a little bit before I get back.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 27 2009, 07:05 PM

Yeah but the people behind him have proxy lists so we could move ahead a few slots if maple19 makes a pick.

Posted by: mjda Jun 27 2009, 10:52 PM

Wow! I can't believe we didn't move at all while I was away. That said, maple19 should post his pick anytime now. I believe this is about the time he gets online. I'm going to give him till morning before I do a random drawing because I just got back home and am ready for bed.

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 09:48 AM

Since maple19 has failed to make his pick within the 12 hour time limit, I have used random.org to select his 2nd round team.

maple19 selects the Florida Panthers

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1724809

I have a proxy list for these next picks.

pavi39 selects the Los Angeles Angels

crpalmi selects the Portland Trail Blazers

Herdfan13 selects the Houston Rockets

PM going out to yodude91.

I would again like to suggest that everyone go ahead and create a proxy list for the last 2 rounds, even if you're active on the site. Every minute we can make up with these picks via proxy list helps because, as you saw here, it could possibly lead to multiple picks in a row that would otherwise not have been made so quickly.

Posted by: yodude91 Jun 28 2009, 09:52 AM

I'll take NFL Tennessee Titans

Posted by: yodude91 Jun 28 2009, 09:55 AM

PM sent to phinsfan77.

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 09:56 AM

Welcome to round 3 gentlemen! Finally!?

Again guys, proxy lists, proxy lists, proxy lists!

Posted by: phinsfan77 Jun 28 2009, 10:34 AM

ill take the boston bruins

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 10:36 AM

PM going out to joey244.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 28 2009, 02:49 PM

Third round, lets get through this.

Posted by: Canucksfan1812 Jun 28 2009, 04:31 PM

It'll be a long time before I pick....I'm last in the third round!!LOL

Posted by: joey244 Jun 28 2009, 04:48 PM

I'll take the Detroit Tigers

PM going to maple19

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 06:08 PM

If anyone would like their cards sent to a different address this month than last, please PM me the new address.

Also, for those of you who don't want your base cards again, please tell me that again as well. I'm not going to assume just because you didn't want them last month that you still don't this month.

Proxy lists, proxy lists, and proxy lists!

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 09:58 PM

Looks like another early morning randomizer coming up. Guys, I want to remind you all to try to get me a proxy list for your upcoming picks. I'd really like to get this draft finished up this week, and break this weekend.

Which reminds me, I was going to ask you guys this before. Would you guys rather do the 3 night break like last month, or join 2 more sports making a 2 night break, or combine it all for a 1 night monster? I'm up for anything, so let's hear some of your thoughts on it. I'm just not sure if having 3 different nights really benefits us because it seemed to be mostly the same guys every night last month anyways.

Posted by: DCool Jun 28 2009, 10:00 PM

If we can do the break on a weekday, I am down for a one night break, if it is on a weekend odds are I won't be able to attend, so in that case I would probably prefer a 2 or 3 night deal.

Posted by: mjda Jun 28 2009, 10:21 PM

Ok guys, time for bed. Hopefully maple19 will make his post soon. If not, I'll do his randomizer in the morning before heading to work.

By the way, proxy lists, proxy lists, proxy lists!

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 29 2009, 06:37 AM

I would say 2 night break max. 1 night is probably too long of an ordeal, although the hockey should go fast considering you only have 18 packs. Not remembering if you read base, but if you do it in one night I would say only read inserts, paralllels, and gu/autos.

Posted by: otter8418 Jun 29 2009, 07:18 AM

what he said.

Posted by: mjda Jun 29 2009, 07:23 AM

maple19 has failed to meet the 12 hour time limit again, so I have randomized him another team for the 3rd round.

maple19 selects the New Jersey Nets

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1729674

I'm not sure what happened with my camera, but the audio wasn't recorded. It's easy to follow though. Just like the other videos I put all the available teams in the list and hit random 3 times. I hope my camera isn't broken.

I have a proxy list for these next picks.

Oilers4ever selects the Detroit Pistons

dabeastlykid's proxy list had a random baseball team next, so that's what I did.

dabeastlykid selects the Cleveland Indians

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1729686

Again, I'm not sure what's up with the audio.

PM going out to northicehero99.

Posted by: mjda Jun 29 2009, 07:39 AM

After looking this morning I realized that my audio drivers failed to load, which is why there is no audio on the last 2 videos. My speakers aren't working either. Must have had something to do with the electricity going out due to storms last night. I'm going to work, and I'll try to resolve the problem when I get home. If I can't, however, I do have another computer (which is way faster/better than this one), that I'm not using for anything. I'll just have to use that if I can't get this one working. Either way, we'll have working audio before the break.

Posted by: northicehero99 Jun 29 2009, 11:30 AM

Northicehero99 selects the Minnesota Twins.

PM heading to Luke2411

Posted by: Luke2411 Jun 29 2009, 01:14 PM

i will take the dallas mavericks.

Posted by: mjda Jun 29 2009, 02:04 PM

Let's see what kind of proxy lists we have now:

aceecards selects the New Orleans Hornets

Axe725 selects the New York Knicks

PM going out to bob_TCC.

Posted by: mjda Jun 29 2009, 06:04 PM

Go Bob go! Go Bob go! I'm really hoping NOT to have to do another random.

Posted by: pavi39 Jun 29 2009, 06:30 PM

Hopefully the next few picks are ready to go or have proxies made up.

I pick next and Micheal has mine...... Sorry in advance to roadrunner.

Posted by: aceecards Jun 29 2009, 06:31 PM

I will gladly trade my 4th round baseball pick for anyones 3rd or 4th round hockey pick.

Please pm me for specific drafting instructions!!

my pick is #11 in round 4!

I have a specific team in mind for hockey!

Posted by: mjda Jun 29 2009, 06:32 PM

After Bob makes his pick, I'll be able to jump the draft another 3 picks from proxy lists.

PM coming Steve!

Posted by: road_runner_1964 Jun 29 2009, 07:17 PM

Yea, I know....I thought about snagging them with my second pick of the second round, but I didn't, I was eyeballing where you were....

But, I did get the Brew Crew....