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Collector Zone _ Group Box Breaks _ Boxbreakers March High End FB Group Break

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 3 2010, 05:06 PM

Welcome to the start of our 3rd year as a group! It's time to get our January break planned so I am posting the team assignments that I am aware of so if you participated last month but want to add, drop, or change a team please let me know asap so I can keep the list accurate.

We'll keep the cost the same at $115 to claim a team and of course you get every card pulled from your team. All boxes will broke on Youtube. The proposed product list is listed below and as always is subject to change based on product availability and final participant count.

Before we get to far into it I want to start by congratulating our...

http://www.freewebs.com/boxbreaker/aboutourmembers.htm --- Otter8418!!

Above is the link to our webpage where Otter8418 is recognized and once again I am asking the TCC and Boxbreakers community to step up and offer some freebies that can be sent his way but to make it easier just send them to me and I'll put together the award package that will be presented as the first video of the break this month. Congrats to Doug on a well deserved award!

So...on to the break details;

Product list;

2009 Exquisite Case (3 boxes)
2008 National Treasures Case (3 boxes)

Cost per team: $115
Payment deadline: March 20th
Break Date: March 28th

If you may want to join us with one of the available teams please let us know asap! Here is our current participant list;

Participant List:

49ers - MWS --------------------------- PAID
Bears - NLR4434 ---------------------- PAID
Bengals - BigChief888 ---------------- PAID
Bills - Faulkrules ----- DRAFT
Broncos - 11Eleven11 ----------------- PAID
Browns - 11Eleven11 ------------------ PAID
Bucaneers - NLR4434 ---- --------PAID
Cardinals - Oilrig50 ------------------- PAID
Chargers - TSantoli ------------------- PAID
Chiefs - Cardman123 ------------ PAID
Colts - Jaxx ---------------------------- PAID
Cowboys - Joba62x -------------------- PAID
Dolphins - 11Eleven11 ----------------- PAID
Eagles - 11Eleven11 ------------------- PAID
Falcons - Takeobeavis ---------------- PAID
Giants - Joba62x ---------------------- PAID
Jaguars - BobKoning ------------- PAID
Jets - Bob Koning --------------------- PAID
Lions - Yzerisdaman ------------------ PAID
Packers - Faulkrules ------------------ PAID
Panthers - BobKoning ------------ PAID
Patriots - 11Eleven11 ----------------- PAID
Raiders - Yzerisdaman ---------------- PAID
Rams - Cardman123 ------------------ PAID
Ravens - 11Eleven11 ------------------ PAID
Redskins - Deantap ------------------- PAID
Saints - BobKoning -------------------- PAID
Seahawks - KPit1978 ----------------- PAID
Steelers - NLR4434 ------------------- PAID
Texans - Otter8418 ------------------- PAID
Titans - Jaxx --------------------------- PAID
Vikings - Crpalmi ---------------------- PAID

Posted by: otter8418 Mar 3 2010, 06:22 PM

hey chris. bears actually belong to brittney now. I am in for the patriots, though.

thanks and thanks for the honor of BBOM.

doug

Posted by: sahetu Mar 3 2010, 06:29 PM

I am in depending upon how soon you need the money, lol. I'm in my lean period due to bills and school book buying hehe. smile.gif

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 3 2010, 07:26 PM

In like Matt Flynn.

Posted by: MWS Mar 3 2010, 08:09 PM

I guess I say I'm in as if you didn't already know.... If you get a sec check out my 06 NT Box break.

Posted by: Joba62x Mar 3 2010, 10:36 PM

in as always


Congrats on the Marino, MWS nice!!



Maybe she eats base?

Posted by: MWS Mar 3 2010, 11:21 PM

QUOTE(Joba62x @ Mar 3 2010, 11:36 PM)
in as always
Congrats on the Marino, MWS nice!!
Maybe she eats base?
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I have something to say here! Its like the door is wide open.. I must hold it in!

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 4 2010, 01:14 AM

Regardless of the members in this break, im still in

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 4 2010, 01:14 AM

Double Post

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 4 2010, 01:14 AM

Triple Post

Posted by: MWS Mar 4 2010, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 4 2010, 02:14 AM)
Triple Post
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You know we make you laugh.

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 4 2010, 09:55 AM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 4 2010, 12:14 AM)
Regardless of the members in this break, im still in
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Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 4 2010, 02:29 PM

NM

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 4 2010, 03:29 PM

payment already sent biggrin.gif

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 4 2010, 04:57 PM

QUOTE(sahetu @ Mar 3 2010, 05:29 PM)
I am in depending upon how soon you need the money, lol. I'm in my lean period due to bills and school book buying hehe. smile.gif
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Looking for payment by march 20th but if I know for sure you are in I could give a few days grace period as well. Hope that works for you?

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 6 2010, 05:12 AM

Free agency brings its share of big-splash deals

Dolphins Land Dansby after Shedding Salary
Ravens Trade For WR Anquan Boldin
Antrel Rolle Makes Leap To Giants
Bears sign Julius Peppers

and .......... Denver's Brandon Marshall to visit ......... Seattle

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 6 2010, 09:25 AM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 6 2010, 04:12 AM)
Free agency brings its share of big-splash deals

Dolphins Land Dansby after Shedding Salary
Ravens Trade For WR Anquan Boldin
Antrel Rolle Makes Leap To Giants
Bears sign Julius Peppers

and .......... Denver's Brandon Marshall to visit ......... Seattle
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I as hoping Boldin would go to the Browns sad.gif

Posted by: sahetu Mar 6 2010, 10:23 AM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 4 2010, 05:57 PM)
Looking for payment by march 20th but if I know for sure you are in I could give a few days grace period as well. Hope that works for you?
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Had to pay out a ton of money yesterday for 7 books for my Bible as Literature class. sad.gif

Gonna have to bow out this month, but I'll be back.

I'll. Be. Back.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 6 2010, 10:31 AM

QUOTE(sahetu @ Mar 6 2010, 09:23 AM)
Had to pay out a ton of money yesterday for 7 books for my Bible as Literature class. sad.gif

Gonna have to bow out this month, but I'll be back.

I'll. Be. Back.
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No problem...I understand the priorities!

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 6 2010, 10:57 AM

QUOTE(sahetu @ Mar 6 2010, 09:23 AM)
Had to pay out a ton of money yesterday for 7 books for my Bible as Literature class. sad.gif

Gonna have to bow out this month, but I'll be back.

I'll. Be. Back.
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7 books??? That is one serious class!!!!

Posted by: sahetu Mar 6 2010, 11:01 AM

QUOTE(faulkrules @ Mar 6 2010, 11:57 AM)
7 books???  That is one serious class!!!!
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It is. =\

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 6 2010, 03:13 PM

I think the time has come for the Cardman to jump into this break with his Rams. I foresee multiple shutouts in the upcoming months, but I am thinking longterm benefits on this one. Please put me down for my Lambs Chris!

-Joe

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 6 2010, 03:40 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 6 2010, 02:13 PM)
I think the time has come for the Cardman to jump into this break with his Rams.  I foresee multiple shutouts in the upcoming months, but I am thinking longterm benefits on this one.  Please put me down for my Lambs Chris!

-Joe
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Welcome!! I was hoping to snag the Rams again in the auctions, but oh well.. If you get any Keith Null stuff please LMK! biggrin.gif

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 6 2010, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 6 2010, 02:13 PM)
I think the time has come for the Cardman to jump into this break with his Rams.  I foresee multiple shutouts in the upcoming months, but I am thinking longterm benefits on this one.  Please put me down for my Lambs Chris!

-Joe
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Glad to have you on board Joe!

Posted by: MWS Mar 6 2010, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 6 2010, 04:13 PM)
I think the time has come for the Cardman to jump into this break with his Rams.  I foresee multiple shutouts in the upcoming months, but I am thinking longterm benefits on this one.  Please put me down for my Lambs Chris!

-Joe
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We welcome you to the shutouts and the big hits.

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 6 2010, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 6 2010, 05:26 PM)
We welcome you to the shutouts and the big hits.
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Thanks guys. I should be strictly a donator until the late 2010 products start coming out, when I will start my Bradford collection (hopefully). I think the Rams picking up Feeley yesterday reinforces the idea of them going QB with the 1st pick. Then again....Suh is a beast who I wouldn't mind having on my line as well.

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 6 2010, 08:58 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 6 2010, 08:32 PM)
Thanks guys.  I should be strictly a donator until the late 2010 products start coming out, when I will start my Bradford collection (hopefully).  I think the Rams picking up Feeley yesterday reinforces the idea of them going QB with the 1st pick. Then again....Suh is a beast who I wouldn't mind having on my line as well.
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probably not a whole lot for you out of exquisite but there's always some nice old school rams popping up in nt.

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 6 2010, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 6 2010, 07:58 PM)
probably not a whole lot for you out of exquisite but there's always some nice old school rams popping up in nt.
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Van Brocklin, Youngblood, Waterfield, Hirsch, Grier, Fears, Deacon...one of the better teams to have in NT, any year!

Posted by: armyatc22 Mar 7 2010, 01:24 AM

i would love to get in this with either the lions or jets if they are not paid for...lmk thanks you can hit me up on youtube since im kinda new to this site bro

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 7 2010, 01:52 AM

QUOTE(armyatc22 @ Mar 6 2010, 11:24 PM)
i would love to get in this with either the lions or jets if they are not paid for...lmk thanks you can hit me up on youtube since im kinda new to this site bro
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Welcome to TCC Alex....stay safe over there.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 7 2010, 04:05 AM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 6 2010, 10:13 PM)
I think the time has come for the Cardman to jump into this break with his Rams.  I foresee multiple shutouts in the upcoming months, but I am thinking longterm benefits on this one.  Please put me down for my Lambs Chris!

-Joe
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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 7 2010, 04:07 AM

QUOTE(faulkrules @ Mar 7 2010, 04:26 AM)
Van Brocklin, Youngblood, Waterfield, Hirsch, Grier, Fears, Deacon...one of the better teams to have in NT, any year!
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Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 7 2010, 04:16 AM

Payment sent for the Jets & Saints...

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 7 2010, 10:40 AM

New addition to the group as TSantoli has joined us as the Chargers collector. I don't believe he's on TCC yet but will be soon so please welcome him to the group and site!

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 7 2010, 11:27 AM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 7 2010, 09:40 AM)
New addition to the group as TSantoli has joined us as the Chargers collector. I don't believe he's on TCC yet but will be soon so please welcome him to the group and site!
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NICE!! Filling these spots with regulars will make this group even better than it already is!! Hopefully the upcoming draft will help fill out a few more teams...

Posted by: otter8418 Mar 7 2010, 12:19 PM

chris, i have decided to be utterly foolish and switch from the patriots to my texans. hopefully i don't regret it.

thanks,

doug

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 7 2010, 12:21 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 7 2010, 05:40 PM)
New addition to the group as TSantoli has joined us as the Chargers collector. I don't believe he's on TCC yet but will be soon so please welcome him to the group and site!
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Posted by: crpalmi Mar 7 2010, 01:18 PM

QUOTE(otter8418 @ Mar 7 2010, 11:19 AM)
chris, i have decided to be utterly foolish and switch from the patriots to my texans.  hopefully i don't regret it.

thanks,

doug
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Way to live on the edge Doug...I'll show the change.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 7 2010, 01:28 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 7 2010, 07:40 AM)
New addition to the group as TSantoli has joined us as the Chargers collector. I don't believe he's on TCC yet but will be soon so please welcome him to the group and site!
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Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 7 2010, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 7 2010, 08:40 AM)
New addition to the group as TSantoli has joined us as the Chargers collector. I don't believe he's on TCC yet but will be soon so please welcome him to the group and site!
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Welcome fellow newbie!!! (in this break, at least)

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 7 2010, 02:17 PM

QUOTE(faulkrules @ Mar 7 2010, 09:27 AM)
NICE!!  Filling these spots with regulars will make this group even better than it already is!!  Hopefully the upcoming draft will help fill out a few more teams...
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LOL...the draft has already had that effect. I'm jumping in with my Rams now as a pre-emptive strike! Of course, if there is any team out there that can screw up the #1 pick, it would be my Rams.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 7 2010, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 7 2010, 09:17 PM)
LOL...the draft has already had that effect.  I'm jumping in with my Rams now as a pre-emptive strike!  Of course, if there is any team out there that can screw up the #1 pick, it would be my Rams.
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2000 (31) Trung Canidate RB Arizona
2001 (12) Damione Lewis DT Miami
2002 (31) Robert Thomas LB UCLA
2003 (12) Jimmy Kennedy DT Penn State
2004 (24) Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
2005 (19) Alex Barron OT Florida State
2006 (15) Tye Hill CB Clemson
2007 (13) Adam Carriker DE Nebraska
2008 (2) Chris Long DE Virginia
2009 (2) Jason Smith OT Baylor

2010 (1) ... ........ .. ........

there's a good chance the Rams will screw up

just like the Raiders always seem to do tongue.gif

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 7 2010, 02:53 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 7 2010, 01:41 PM)
2000 (31) Trung Canidate RB Arizona 
2001 (12) Damione Lewis DT Miami
2002 (31) Robert Thomas LB UCLA 
2003 (12) Jimmy Kennedy DT Penn State 
2004 (24) Steven Jackson RB Oregon State 
2005 (19) Alex Barron OT Florida State 
2006 (15) Tye Hill CB Clemson 
2007 (13) Adam Carriker DE Nebraska 
2008 (2) Chris Long DE Virginia 
2009 (2) Jason Smith OT Baylor

2010 (1) ... ........ .. ........

there's a good chance the Rams will screw up

just like the Raiders always seem to do  tongue.gif 

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...and the Browns...

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 7 2010, 04:53 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 7 2010, 03:53 PM)
...and the Browns...
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let's not forget the bills please...with glaring needs at lt, qb (although i still like edwards myself, i'd like to see what he could do when he doesn't have to scramble for his life every play) and wr, i'm almost positive the bills will use the 9th overall pick on...a safety!

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 7 2010, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 7 2010, 11:41 AM)
2000 (31) Trung Canidate RB Arizona 
2001 (12) Damione Lewis DT Miami
2002 (31) Robert Thomas LB UCLA 
2003 (12) Jimmy Kennedy DT Penn State 
2004 (24) Steven Jackson RB Oregon State 
2005 (19) Alex Barron OT Florida State 
2006 (15) Tye Hill CB Clemson 
2007 (13) Adam Carriker DE Nebraska 
2008 (2) Chris Long DE Virginia 
2009 (2) Jason Smith OT Baylor

2010 (1) ... ........ .. ........

there's a good chance the Rams will screw up

just like the Raiders always seem to do  tongue.gif 

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The Rams will trade the #1 pick to Philly for Vick the puppy killer. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 7 2010, 05:49 PM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 7 2010, 03:25 PM)
The Rams will trade the #1 pick to Philly for Vick the puppy killer.  ohmy.gif
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Ugh...that nightmare scenario isn't even funny.

Posted by: deantap Mar 7 2010, 05:53 PM

I'll take the REDSKINS for this month and see how their draft goes-Mocks have a QB possibly going to them at the #4 PICK.

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 7 2010, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(deantap @ Mar 7 2010, 04:53 PM)
I'll take the REDSKINS for this month and see how their draft goes-Mocks have a QB possibly  going to them at the #4 PICK.
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I wub.gif the NFL Draft!!!

Posted by: Joba62x Mar 7 2010, 09:38 PM

Welcome to the new and returning members!!

Love the packers NT shot Faulkrules, next week do a farve/megan fox one.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 8 2010, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(deantap @ Mar 7 2010, 04:53 PM)
I'll take the REDSKINS for this month and see how their draft goes-Mocks have a QB possibly  going to them at the #4 PICK.
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I've heard Bradford may be the guy??

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 8 2010, 11:58 AM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 8 2010, 08:15 AM)
I've heard Bradford may be the guy??
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He will most likely be the Redskins guy if the Rams don't take him. However, I know that Rams people have already had discussions with Bradford's agent. If Skins don't get Bradford, I think they will go Clausen, so it should still be a good team to have.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 8 2010, 01:03 PM

QUOTE(faulkrules @ Mar 8 2010, 04:28 AM)
I wub.gif the NFL Draft!!!
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The Browns are a candidate to trade up for a quarterback. Moving from No. 7 to No. 3 may be difficult, but Cleveland could definitely go up two spots if the Redskins pass on Sam Bradford/Jimmy Clausen. All that would cost the Browns is a third-round pick, and they conveniently have two of those. Also, don't count out the Seahawks leapfrogging the Redskins to get Bradford if still available at No. 3

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 8 2010, 01:30 PM

Tim Tebow revealed that he already has individual workouts with the Seahawks and Bills lined up after his pro day.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 8 2010, 01:45 PM

New Regimes Mean New Quarterbacks:

New York Jets: Rex Ryan (2009)
With Eric Mangini gone, Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum traded up to acquire Mark Sanchez.

Detroit Lions: Martin Mayhew and Jim Schwartz (2009)
With Matt Millen gone, Martin Mayhew took Matt Stafford with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

Atlanta Falcons: Thomas Dimitroff and Mike Smith (2008)
Despite speculation that he might take Glenn Dorsey, Thomas Dimitroff made the right move and selected Matt Ryan with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft.

Baltimore Ravens: Jon Harbaugh (2008)
With Brian Billick gone, the Ravens were no longer tied to Kyle Boller. Like Atlanta, Baltimore found its franchise signal-caller, Joe Flacco, in the 2008 NFL Draft.


2010 Bills ??? Redskins ??? Seahawks ???

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 8 2010, 02:13 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 8 2010, 12:45 PM)
2010 Bills ??? Redskins ??? Seahawks ???
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If I had extra $$$ I would take all 3!! wink.gif

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 8 2010, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 8 2010, 11:15 AM)
I've heard Bradford may be the guy??
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Depending on Free Agency the rumors out of DC are they really want a LT and a QB in 2nd or 3rd

Posted by: Jaxx Mar 9 2010, 01:31 PM

In with the Colts and Titans again! tongue.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 10 2010, 07:35 AM

wow already 24 teams taken is this a new record ???

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 10 2010, 07:50 AM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 10 2010, 06:35 AM)
wow already 24 teams taken is this a new record ???
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We were up to 29 in the hey day! Let's get there!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 10 2010, 08:59 AM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 10 2010, 02:50 PM)
We were up to 29 in the hey day! Let's get there!
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WOW those were the days biggrin.gif

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 10 2010, 09:41 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 10 2010, 08:35 AM)
wow already 24 teams taken is this a new record ???
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When Vick is a Ram and they Draft Suh, and Redskins take a LT, then the numbers will drop wink.gif

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 11 2010, 12:25 PM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 10 2010, 06:41 PM)
When Vick is a Ram and they Draft Suh, and Redskins take a LT, then the numbers will drop wink.gif
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Don't rule the Bucs out of the QB race...... i see there still on the board up there.... rolleyes.gif jump.gif

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 11 2010, 12:38 PM

i'm going to jump on the draft prognosticator bandwagon here and grab the seahawks...at the very least i have a chance to start up a brian bosworth pc. or if i'm really lucky maybe a nice aaron curry like chris5784 pulled the yesterday.

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 11 2010, 12:44 PM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 11 2010, 10:38 AM)
i'm going to jump on the draft prognosticator bandwagon here and grab the seahawks...at the very least i have a chance to start up a brian bosworth pc. or if i'm really lucky maybe a nice aaron curry like chris5784 pulled the yesterday.
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LOL...I saw that Curry pull....that patch was the ultimate SICKNESS. I like how Chris told him to keep the video if he was going to try and sell the card so that no one accused him of doctoring the patch.


Posted by: crpalmi Mar 11 2010, 12:51 PM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 11 2010, 11:38 AM)
i'm going to jump on the draft prognosticator bandwagon here and grab the seahawks...at the very least i have a chance to start up a brian bosworth pc. or if i'm really lucky maybe a nice aaron curry like chris5784 pulled the yesterday.
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Welcome Kevin! We pulled a Curry Redemption last month as well so hopefully more is in store for you!

Posted by: MWS Mar 11 2010, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 11 2010, 01:38 PM)
i'm going to jump on the draft prognosticator bandwagon here and grab the seahawks...at the very least i have a chance to start up a brian bosworth pc. or if i'm really lucky maybe a nice aaron curry like chris5784 pulled the yesterday.
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Welcome! Sure is nice to see the group fill up again.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 12 2010, 01:16 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 11 2010, 09:30 PM)
Welcome! Sure is nice to see the group fill up again.
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Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 12 2010, 05:09 PM

If 111111 would just take some teams already maybe we could fill it! teehee.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 12 2010, 07:40 PM

Paid.

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 13 2010, 02:26 PM

Packers paid for!!! smile.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 13 2010, 04:13 PM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 13 2010, 12:09 AM)
If 111111 would just take some teams already maybe we could fill it!  teehee.gif
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oh well why not 11eleven11 takes the Patriots as well tongue.gif

payment sent biggrin.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 13 2010, 04:43 PM

I see a box of 06 NT in our future.

Posted by: otter8418 Mar 13 2010, 05:03 PM

payment sent, chris.

thanks as always,

doug wink.gif

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 13 2010, 05:17 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 13 2010, 03:43 PM)
I see a box of 06 NT in our future.
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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 14 2010, 05:41 AM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM)
I see a box of 06 NT in our future.
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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 14 2010, 05:08 PM

The Cleveland Browns have traded QB Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos for RB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.

Posted by: MWS Mar 14 2010, 05:32 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 14 2010, 06:08 PM)
The Cleveland Browns have traded QB Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos for RB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.
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Woohooo!!!

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 14 2010, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 14 2010, 06:08 PM)
The Cleveland Browns have traded QB Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos for RB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.
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looks like it's gonna be the bills and the browns in a battle for the first overall pick in the 2011 draft...oops almost forgot about the raiders.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 14 2010, 10:16 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 14 2010, 04:08 PM)
The Cleveland Browns have traded QB Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos for RB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.
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Glad I didn't spring for that Quinn jersey. My closets full of 3 Tim Couch jerseys, 2 Charlie Frye, an Andre Rison, and an old Bernie Kosar jersey. At least one of them worked out.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 15 2010, 06:46 AM

LaDainian Tomlinson is bolting for the Big Apple.

Tomlinson’s agent, Tom Condon, said that the New York Jets signed the former Chargers running back to a two-year contract. The Jets confirmed that they have agreed to a deal.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 15 2010, 08:07 AM

"I keep hearing from my Jets sources that they're having internal discussions regarding Brandon Marshall and would love to put together a package of players that might entice the Broncos and still keep their first-round pick," writes Lombardi. In other words, the Seattle Seahawks might not be the only ones willing to wade into the water after Marshall.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 15 2010, 09:49 AM

Hey just a quick heads up for anyone that is interested I just posted a new thread in the FB Group Breaks Marketplace for a 16 box break of 2007 Leaf Limited which is part of Blowouts NCAA Tournament Promo with 4 chances at some free cases including a case of 2008 Exquisite FB! Here's the link if interested as alot of great teams are available!

http://www.tradingcardcentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=269216

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Posted by: crpalmi Mar 17 2010, 10:24 AM

Having trouble finding a decent (sane) price on 08 Exquisite as most seem to be out of stock. If anyone has a good lead on a case from a reputable source let me know. I'm confidant we'll get one but hoping to find it at a reasonable price so we can add products to our list.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 01:55 PM

EXQUISITE09

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 01:55 PM

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 01:56 PM

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Posted by: Joba62x Mar 17 2010, 02:14 PM

good to see the autos not on the patches

That steve young is the most interesting to me, i wonder how many of that type of card there will be and how often they appear

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 02:57 PM

EXQUISITE09

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 02:58 PM

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 03:30 PM

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 03:46 PM

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Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 17 2010, 03:51 PM

Thanks for finally giving the Rams some love...

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 03:59 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 17 2010, 10:51 PM)
Thanks for finally giving the Rams some love...
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haha the Rams have some nice cards (players) in EX09: Marc Bulger, Jason Smith, Steven Jackson, James Laurinaitis, Brooks Foster, Keith Null, Chris Ogbonnaya, Isaac Bruce, Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones and Jack Youngblood.

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 17 2010, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:59 PM)
haha the Rams have some nice cards (players) in EX09: Marc Bulger, Jason Smith, Steven Jackson, James Laurinaitis, Brooks Foster, Keith Null, Chris Ogbonnaya, Isaac Bruce, Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones and  Jack Youngblood.
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Would it kill them to throw in some Kurt Warner retro cards? Afterall...he is the QB that finally brought us to the promised land. The wife has already agreed we are going back to Canton for his induction ceremonies when he goes in.

Thanks for sharing the preview pics....where do you get the cool insider screening?

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 17 2010, 04:09 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 17 2010, 11:04 PM)
Would it kill them to throw in some Kurt Warner retro cards?  Afterall...he is the QB that finally brought us to the promised land.  The wife has already agreed we are going back to Canton for his induction ceremonies when he goes in.
Thanks for sharing the preview pics....where do you get the cool insider screening?
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thats cool cool.gif

the pics are from UD taking you live to the pack out of one of the most anticipated releases of the year 2009 Exquisite Collection Football, UD is just showing some of the most exciting cards in the set.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 17 2010, 04:12 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 17 2010, 02:59 PM)
haha the Rams have some nice cards (players) in EX09: Marc Bulger, Jason Smith, Steven Jackson, James Laurinaitis, Brooks Foster, Keith Null, Chris Ogbonnaya, Isaac Bruce, Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones and  Jack Youngblood.
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They were one of the first teams to go in our draft of unclaimed teams in the Exquisite break this month. Lot's of good possibilities!

Posted by: deantap Mar 17 2010, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 17 2010, 01:12 PM)
They were one of the first teams to go in our draft of unclaimed teams in the Exquisite break this month. Lot's of good possibilities!
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They are always one of the best EXTRA teams to have-lots of "hits" in all products. The oldtimers from the LA days makes them more attractive than their latest rookies.

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 19 2010, 11:14 AM

Payment sent for the Rams.

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 19 2010, 06:00 PM

payment sent...hoping for some beginner's luck. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 19 2010, 09:45 PM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 19 2010, 04:00 PM)
payment sent...hoping for some beginner's luck. biggrin.gif
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I'm right there with you Kevin!!! Hopefully enough luck for two beginners!! Good luck bro....

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 19 2010, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 19 2010, 08:45 PM)
I'm right there with you Kevin!!!  Hopefully enough luck for two beginners!!  Good luck bro....
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Newbies! cool.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 19 2010, 11:24 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 19 2010, 10:54 PM)
Newbies!  cool.gif
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I'm pritty sure the Newbie luck runs really thick in this group. wink.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 20 2010, 03:39 AM

QUOTE(deantap @ Mar 18 2010, 12:23 AM)
They are always one of the best EXTRA teams to have-lots of "hits" in all products. The oldtimers from the LA days makes them more attractive than their latest rookies.
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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 20 2010, 03:43 AM

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 20 2010, 03:51 AM

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 20 2010, 04:30 AM

QUOTE(kpit1978 @ Mar 20 2010, 01:00 AM)
hoping for some beginner's luck. biggrin.gif
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user posted image and good luck biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 20 2010, 02:25 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 20 2010, 01:39 AM)
EXQUISITE09

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We need to pull this next month! This will probably be the last product with Merlin Olsen on-card autos. R.I.P. Merlin.

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 20 2010, 02:28 PM

Yeah, judging by past breaks, the noobs are going to KILL it next weekend!!! Hope we all get some sick stuff!!! smile.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 22 2010, 12:27 PM

Holmgren says Cleveland Browns will definitely draft a QB, but probably not in the first couple of rounds.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 22 2010, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 22 2010, 09:27 AM)
Holmgren says Cleveland Browns will definitely draft a QB, but probably not in the first couple of rounds.
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Well, round 6 worked for the Pats in Tom Brady, so who knows???

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 22 2010, 06:22 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 22 2010, 09:27 AM)
Holmgren says Cleveland Browns will definitely draft a QB, but probably not in the first couple of rounds.
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BTW 11, thanks for the Exquisite pics! Now let's hope we get some good ones! biggrin.gif Maybe we should start planning a second Exquisite break!?!? clapping.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 02:55 AM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 23 2010, 01:22 AM)
BTW 11, thanks for the Exquisite pics!  Now let's hope we get some good ones!  biggrin.gif Maybe we should start planning a second Exquisite break!?!?  clapping.gif
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we should NO we must BOB"KING"KONING biggrin.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 05:05 AM

The New England Patriots are the big winner for losing free agents last year. The Patriots have been awarded the maximum of four compensatory picks in April’s NFL draft.

Compensatory draft picks

Rd Pick Sel. # Team

3 33 96 Cincinnati
3 34 97 Tennessee
3 35 98 Atlanta
4 33 131 Cincinnati
5 33 164 Pittsburgh
5 34 165 Atlanta
5 35 166 Pittsburgh
5 36 167 Minnesota
5 37 168 San Diego
5 38 169 Green Bay
6 33 202 Carolina
6 34 203 Jacksonville
6 35 204 Carolina
6 36 205 New England
6 37 206 San Francisco
6 38 207 Tennessee
7 33 240 Indianapolis
7 34 241 Tennessee
7 35 242 Pittsburgh
7 36 243 Philadelphia
7 37 244 Philadelphia
7 38 245 Seattle
7 39 246 Indianapolis
7 40 247 New England
7 41 248 New England

7 42 249 Carolina
7 43 250 New England
7 44 251 Oakland
7 45 252 Miami
7 46 253 Tampa Bay
7 47 254 St. Louis
7 48 255 Detroit

The Bengals have the highest compensatory spot, the 33rd pick in the third round (96th overall).

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 23 2010, 01:15 PM

Sorry guys...been out of town for the last couple days and haven't had a chance to update the thread. We are at crisis-stage for this month as I still have yet to locate a case of 2008 Exquisite. For the last 2 weeks I have looked at every site I could find and nobody has any. Unless someone has a source that can get me a case delivered by Friday we will have to push back the break a bit.

I will propose that we do the following; push the break back 1 week and switch the product list to 2008 National Treasures and 2009 Exquisite as it should be released the 30th which should (hopefully) be in time to run the break Saturday April 3rd?

Looking for thoughts on this. Obviously if the product change is a deal breaker for some of you I can certainly offer refunds but I don't know what else to do if we can't find a case. I've already bought the 09NT case so I'd look to rotate that in next month with the 08Exquisite if we can track one down.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 23 2010, 01:27 PM

While I have no problem with the product switch or the push back of the break date....mainly because I am a newbie to this group, my only concern is pushing the break back AND replacing a product with another product that hasn't been released yet. We all know the track records of new products and the multiple delays that always seem to happen with proposed release dates. And is it not correct that 09 Exquisite has already been pushed back multiple times?

I'm not concerned with 09 Exquisite as a product...my only concern is that it is actually available for your planned April 3rd break date. Whatever is decided though...I am still in.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 23 2010, 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 23 2010, 12:27 PM)
While I have no problem with the product switch or the push back of the break date....mainly because I am a newbie to this group, my only concern is pushing the break back AND replacing a product with another product that hasn't been released yet.  We all know the track records of new products and the multiple delays that always seem to happen with proposed release dates.  And is it not correct that 09 Exquisite has already been pushed back multiple times? 

I'm not concerned with 09 Exquisite as a product...my only concern is that it is actually available for your planned April 3rd break date.  Whatever is decided though...I am still in.
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Yep, I hear you as I don't trust any release dates but with coming up empty on 08 Exquisite for 2 weeks I figure I may have better luck with 09 Exquisite getting released sooner than it takes to find a case of the 08.

Posted by: MWS Mar 23 2010, 01:42 PM

I'm good with whatever you do. I like the Idea of waiting for the 09 UDE.

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 23 2010, 01:48 PM

Works perfectly for me I love it.

If anyone wants out bc of the change email me Chris and I might be interested in their spots

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 23 2010, 02:15 PM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 23 2010, 10:48 AM)
Works perfectly for me I love it.

If anyone wants out bc of the change email me Chris and I might be interested in their spots
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Whatever you guys want to do I'm good with. Well almost whatever. I guess if you siad you wanted to relace 08 Exquisite with 1992 Fleer, I'd have issues! tongue.gif

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 23 2010, 02:31 PM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 23 2010, 01:15 PM)
Whatever you guys want to do I'm good with.  Well almost whatever.  I guess if you siad you wanted to relace 08 Exquisite with 1992 Fleer, I'd have issues!  tongue.gif
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Oooohhh...David Klingler rookies!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 03:11 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 23 2010, 08:42 PM)
I'm good with whatever you do. I like the Idea of waiting for the 09 UDE.
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X2 biggrin.gif

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The boxes are all packed. Now everything will be mixed again and packaged into their cases ready to be delivered to everyone who ordered tongue.gif

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 23 2010, 03:14 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 23 2010, 01:11 PM)
X2  biggrin.gif

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The boxes are all packed. Now everything will be mixed again and packaged into their cases ready to be delivered to everyone who ordered  tongue.gif
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Hey 111111, let me ask what may be a dumb question (remember...I'm new to this group...be nice). Do you, by any chance, work for UD? If so...that must be an awesome gig!

Posted by: MWS Mar 23 2010, 03:22 PM

Looks like we will have some cases of 09 to open!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 03:23 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 23 2010, 10:14 PM)
Hey 111111, let me ask what may be a dumb question (remember...I'm new to this group...be nice).  Do you, by any chance, work for UD?  If so...that must be an awesome gig!
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NO i dont work for UD tongue.gif got the picture from UD Facebook biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cardman123 Mar 23 2010, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 23 2010, 01:23 PM)
NO i dont work for UD  tongue.gif  got the picture from UD Facebook  biggrin.gif
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LOL....darn...I was hoping you could hook up a pal for a tour. I live a couple hours from Carlsbad. tongue.gif

Posted by: Joba62x Mar 23 2010, 03:25 PM

Im fine with whatever.

My 1st choice would be open the 09NT as planned this week and change the 08EX to 09EX and open it when ever it gets here, and ship when its done.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 23 2010, 03:26 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 23 2010, 12:11 PM)
X2  biggrin.gif

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The boxes are all packed. Now everything will be mixed again and packaged into their cases ready to be delivered to everyone who ordered  tongue.gif
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11, where do you get all this info? You are like a machine of facts! keep em comming! lamo.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 23 2010, 03:26 PM

QUOTE(Joba62x @ Mar 23 2010, 04:25 PM)
Im fine with whatever.

My 1st choice would be open the 09NT as planned this week and change the 08EX to 09EX and open it when ever it gets here, and ship when its done.
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Thats not a bad Idea.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 23 2010, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 23 2010, 12:25 PM)
LOL....darn...I was hoping you could hook up a pal for a tour. I live a couple hours from Carlsbad.  tongue.gif
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Funny, I live IN Carlsbad..... They won't let me in!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(Cardman123 @ Mar 23 2010, 10:25 PM)
LOL....darn...I was hoping you could hook up a pal for a tour. I live a couple hours from Carlsbad.  tongue.gif
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well i live a couple of hours from Upper Deck Europe BV tongue.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 23 2010, 10:28 PM)
Funny, I live IN Carlsbad.....  They won't let me in!
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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 23 2010, 03:35 PM

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=155631&id=61698633950

Link of UD Facebook 58 pics of Exquisite09 biggrin.gif

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 23 2010, 03:38 PM

I would only borrow a few things..... Like 1000 cases of 2009 Exquisite Football! ... oh and a few cases of 2007 for Chris as i think there's a certain card he may be looking for....

Posted by: Gottabe Mar 23 2010, 04:01 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 23 2010, 01:31 PM)
Oooohhh...David Klingler rookies!
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News Flash detective.gif

This just in,
Mike Brown has issued his annual reminder that the above named Draft "Bust" Pick is to never be uttered in the presence of Carson Palmer...

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Posted by: crpalmi Mar 23 2010, 04:16 PM

QUOTE(Gottabe @ Mar 23 2010, 03:01 PM)
News Flash detective.gif

This just in,
Mike Brown has issued his annual reminder that the above named Draft "Bust" Pick is to never be uttered in the presence of Carson Palmer...

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Ok...how about... Oooohhh Carl Pickens rookies!

Posted by: Gottabe Mar 23 2010, 05:58 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 23 2010, 03:16 PM)
Ok...how about... Oooohhh Carl Pickens rookies!
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Mike is SOOoo VERY proud of that guy and the inception of the "Picken's Clause"
for all the newbies it's like a poison pill in a contract.

Oh Yeah, Mike won't let them forget that troublemaker...lol

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 23 2010, 06:53 PM

I like having two different years worth to be honest but as always I go with the majority

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 23 2010, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 23 2010, 05:53 PM)
I like having two different years worth to be honest but as always I go with the majority
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I'm with you. I'd even prefer 3 years but I won't try going there again...besides we don't have the budget.

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 23 2010, 08:36 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 23 2010, 09:25 PM)
I'm with you. I'd even prefer 3 years but I won't try going there again...besides we don't have the budget.
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Ill cave in on 2006 I promise as long as Cutler is considered a Bear wink.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 24 2010, 06:08 AM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Mar 23 2010, 09:36 PM)
Ill cave in on 2006 I promise as long as Cutler is considered a Bear wink.gif
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Is he even considered a QB? Crying little baby comes to mind when I see that name.

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Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 24 2010, 10:10 AM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 24 2010, 01:08 PM)
Is he even considered a QB? Crying little baby comes to mind when I see that name.

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euh yes ........... i think so tongue.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 24 2010, 10:22 AM

Carroll said Seahawks GM John Schneider has talked with the Broncos and Marshall's agent Kennard McGuire. Because Marshall is a restricted free agent, the Seahawks would probably have to first settle on a new contract with the receiver, and then talk compensation with the Broncos. It appears the Seahawks are not willing to sign Marshall to an offer sheet that would mean surrendering their No. 6 overall draft pick to Denver.

"A rumor spread among the NFL's top executives: Donovan McNabb to Buffalo for draft picks. Turns out that the trade rumor was false, or perhaps just not yet true. What's more, the Eagles apparently have lowered their price for either McNabb or Kolb. Once thought to be insistent on a first-round pick, the Eagles now are looking for a "fair" price - a second-round pick or a combination of high picks, a league source with knowledge of the team's thought process said.

At the NFL owners meetings Eric Mangini said the trade of Wimbley may give the Browns ammunition to swing another trade, or two, before the draft. The Browns own five of the top 85 picks -- their own in each of the first three rounds, plus New England's (via Oakland in the Wimbley trade) and the Jets' (in the Braylon Edwards trade) in the third round. The extra picks gave them the realistic option of packaging two of them to move into the second round to select a quarterback.

"The NFL draft is a month away, but Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said at the league's owners meetings that he is "confident" he'll have an opportunity to deal the No. 2 overall pick. "I feel confident that we'll have an opportunity to move back," Mayhew said. "Will that be an opportunity that we want to take advantage of? Will it be a situation where we feel we're getting appropriate value? I couldn't answer that right now."



Posted by: crpalmi Mar 24 2010, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 24 2010, 09:22 AM)
Carroll said Seahawks GM John Schneider has talked with the Broncos and Marshall's agent Kennard McGuire. Because Marshall is a restricted free agent, the Seahawks would probably have to first settle on a new contract with the receiver, and then talk compensation with the Broncos. It appears the Seahawks are not willing to sign Marshall to an offer sheet that would mean surrendering their No. 6 overall draft pick to Denver.

"A rumor spread among the NFL's top executives: Donovan McNabb to Buffalo for draft picks. Turns out that the trade rumor was false, or perhaps just not yet true. What's more, the Eagles apparently have lowered their price for either McNabb or Kolb. Once thought to be insistent on a first-round pick, the Eagles now are looking for a "fair" price - a second-round pick or a combination of high picks, a league source with knowledge of the team's thought process said.

At the NFL owners meetings Eric Mangini said the trade of Wimbley may give the Browns ammunition to swing another trade, or two, before the draft. The Browns own five of the top 85 picks -- their own in each of the first three rounds, plus New England's (via Oakland in the Wimbley trade) and the Jets' (in the Braylon Edwards trade) in the third round. The extra picks gave them the realistic option of packaging two of them to move into the second round to select a quarterback.

"The NFL draft is a month away, but Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said at the league's owners meetings that he is "confident" he'll have an opportunity to deal the No. 2 overall pick. "I feel confident that we'll have an opportunity to move back," Mayhew said. "Will that be an opportunity that we want to take advantage of? Will it be a situation where we feel we're getting appropriate value? I couldn't answer that right now."
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I love draft season! As a Browns fan it's usually the most excitement I see all year!

Posted by: otter8418 Mar 24 2010, 12:27 PM

the browns should trade their first pick and one of their extra third round picks to Detroit to go get Suh. then they would not be the rushing doormat that they have been for the last 10 years.

just my opinion,

doug

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 24 2010, 12:39 PM

QUOTE(otter8418 @ Mar 24 2010, 11:27 AM)
the browns should trade their first pick and one of their extra third round picks to Detroit to go get Suh.  then they would not be the rushing doormat that they have been for the last 10 years.

just my opinion,

doug
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I'd love that but I think it'll take more than a 3rd round pick to jump up 5 spots. I think they'll stay where they are in the 1st and take Berry or Haden to help the secondary and then maybe go for a QB project in either the 2nd, 3rd or package those two picks to move back into the first if Clausen drops like Quinn did in 07.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 24 2010, 01:50 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 24 2010, 09:39 AM)
I'd love that but I think it'll take more than a 3rd round pick to jump up 5 spots. I think they'll stay where they are in the 1st and take Berry or Haden to help the secondary and then maybe go for a QB project in either the 2nd, 3rd or package those two picks to move back into the first if Clausen drops like Quinn did in 07.
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Other 2010 NFL Draft Possibilities:
1. Quarterback - I don't know how Jimmy Clausen could possibly fall to No. 7, but if he does, he'll be the pick. Mike Holmgren recently said that he "wished he could like Clausen more." Why would Holmgren reveal his cards like that? Either Holmgren is very cunning or very stupid. I'd vote for the former, but then again, paying Jake Delhomme $7 million could be a sign of the latter.

Posted by: kpit1978 Mar 24 2010, 03:03 PM

i'd love to see the bills pick up mcnabb or kolb (of the two i'd rather have kolb because the bills are going to need a few years to turn things around imo) without losing their 1st rounder. right now i think the worst thing that could happen is clausen slipping to 9 and the bills taking him instead of concentrating on the o-line.

Posted by: MWS Mar 24 2010, 05:05 PM

Hey Chris what are we doing? Waiting on 09, or opening half this week and half next?

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 24 2010, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 24 2010, 04:05 PM)
Hey Chris what are we doing? Waiting on 09, or opening half this week and half next?
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I'd rather not do half and half if it's all the same to folks. I'm continuing to search for 08 Exquisite so it just depends what I find first...2008 or 2009 Exquisite? Either way it looks like we'll have to delay a few days.

Posted by: Gottabe Mar 24 2010, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 24 2010, 11:39 AM)
I'd love that but I think it'll take more than a 3rd round pick to jump up 5 spots. I think they'll stay where they are in the 1st and take Berry or Haden to help the secondary and then maybe go for a QB project in either the 2nd, 3rd or package those two picks to move back into the first if Clausen drops like Quinn did in 07.
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If he does "Drops Like Quinn" Hey that's kinda catchy just like
"Down Goes Frazier"...lol

Let's just hope (for your sake) management treats this situation differently.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 24 2010, 09:17 PM

QUOTE(Gottabe @ Mar 24 2010, 05:51 PM)
If he does "Drops Like Quinn"  Hey that's kinda catchy just like
"Down Goes Frazier"...lol

Let's just hope (for your sake) management treats this situation differently.
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I like to think that with Holmgren running the show we won't see all the mismanagement that has been going on in Cleveland.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 25 2010, 11:19 AM

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Texas quarterback Colt McCoy will visit the Browns April 12-13, a league source confirmed for the Plain Dealer.

McCoy, the third-rated quarterback in the draft according to most experts, is projected to go in the second round -- after first-round prospects Sam Bradford of Oklahoma and Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame.


Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 25 2010, 12:32 PM

The Carolina Panthers have a big hole at backup quarterback behind starter Matt Moore right now and it looks like head coach John Fox wouldn't mind filling it up with former University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, according to the Charlotte Observer.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 25 2010, 04:50 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 25 2010, 09:32 AM)
The Carolina Panthers have a big hole at backup quarterback behind starter Matt Moore right now and it looks like head coach John Fox wouldn't mind filling it up with former University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, according to the Charlotte Observer.
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11, looks like you may need another team! pile.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 26 2010, 07:11 AM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 25 2010, 11:50 PM)
11, looks like you may need another team!  pile.gif  tongue.gif
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oh please do behave tongue.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 27 2010, 03:38 AM

Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen has interviews set up with at least five teams picking at the front of the NFL draft, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. Over the next few days, Clausen will meet with the Rams (No. 1), Redskins (4), Browns (7), Bills (9) and Jaguars (10). Of those teams, Jacksonville could be the most surprising, although it did flirt with the idea of using its first round pick on a quarterback last season.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 27 2010, 03:44 AM

Sources close to the situation told The Philadelphia Inquirer that McNabb prefers to land with the Minnesota Vikings if he were traded.

With Brett Favre's future still unknown in Minnesota, coach Brad Childress characterized the Vikings' interest in McNabb as "not as of right now."

"I'm not going to tell you that we won’t add another quarterback to our roster or another two quarterbacks to our roster depending on which quarterback shows up and which doesn’t, or which couple or three show up and which don’t," Childress told the Star Tribune. "That’s all down-the-road stuff."

Posted by: MWS Mar 28 2010, 02:58 PM

I might have missed it, but are we doing 08 or 09 UDE? Please say 09...

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 28 2010, 03:02 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 28 2010, 01:58 PM)
I might have missed it, but are we doing 08 or 09 UDE? Please say 09...
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Which ever product I can get in-hand first. I still have not seen a single case of 08 Exquisite in the past 3 weeks and with the 09 release set for early this week I'd expect it'll probably be 09.

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 28 2010, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 28 2010, 10:02 PM)
Which ever product I can get in-hand first. I still have not seen a single case of 08 Exquisite in the past 3 weeks and with the 09 release set for early this week I'd expect it'll probably be 09.
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interesting biggrin.gif

what date/time are we breaking this new stuff jump.gif pepsi.gif

Posted by: MWS Mar 28 2010, 03:41 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 28 2010, 04:39 PM)
interesting  biggrin.gif

what date/time are we breaking this new stuff      jump.gif    pepsi.gif
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I think it should be on Tuesday lol.

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 28 2010, 07:10 PM

QUOTE(11eleven11 @ Mar 28 2010, 02:39 PM)
interesting  biggrin.gif

what date/time are we breaking this new stuff      jump.gif    pepsi.gif
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I'm going to have to wait until I get a dc# on the case to know when we can plan it. Sorry about that but I'll have to keep you posted.

Posted by: Takeobeavis Mar 29 2010, 02:58 PM

Which product are we doing?

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 29 2010, 05:04 PM

QUOTE(Takeobeavis @ Mar 29 2010, 11:58 AM)
Which product are we doing?
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Posted by: crpalmi Mar 29 2010, 05:54 PM

QUOTE(Takeobeavis @ Mar 29 2010, 01:58 PM)
Which product are we doing?
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I still can't locate an 08 Exquisite case anywhere so I'll just make the call now that we'll have to kmake the switch to 09 Exquisite and 08NT. I'll email everyone to see if they need to drop out or switch teams based on the change. Sorry about that but I've been looking for almost 4 weeks with no luck.

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 29 2010, 06:11 PM

######! 09 Exquisite sucks! biggrin.gif

Posted by: BOBKONING Mar 29 2010, 06:12 PM

QUOTE(BOBKONING @ Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM)
######!  09 Exquisite sucks!  biggrin.gif
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Guess I cant say the Dam word! hahaha i was bleeped! tongue.gif

Posted by: faulkrules Mar 29 2010, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Mar 29 2010, 04:54 PM)
I still can't locate an 08 Exquisite case anywhere so I'll just make the call now that we'll have to kmake the switch to 09 Exquisite and 08NT. I'll email everyone to see if they need to drop out or switch teams based on the change. Sorry about that but I've been looking for almost 4 weeks with no luck.
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Switch is fine w me...there aren't any Packers in either product anyway! wink.gif

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 30 2010, 01:50 AM

Long live this break

Posted by: crpalmi Mar 30 2010, 10:33 AM

I've updated the product list and emailed all participants about the change to;

2009 Exquisite Case
2008 National Treasures Case

We may have some extra $$ but it won't be enough to cover a box of NT as the 08NT case costs more than the 09NT case. As i stated in the email I'll be fine with refunding anyone that needs to back out due to the switch but just let me know asap! The next order of business is to start the silent bids for the remaining unclaimed teams. Currently this is the list;

Bengals
Bills
Bucs
Chiefs
Jags
Panthers

The list may change if there is a drop out or switch but let's proceed with that as the list right now. I'll accept silent bids up until Thursday at 8pm(ct) with a minimum bid amount of $35 per team. I will be out of town until Thursday AM so won't know the status of the 09 Exquisite case until then so I'll update at that time whether we will have it to break for the weekend (maybe Friday night?).


Posted by: MWS Mar 30 2010, 01:50 PM

Can we please do this insted!!

http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_101&products_id=1616

Posted by: 11eleven11 Mar 30 2010, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(MWS @ Mar 30 2010, 08:50 PM)
Can we please do this insted!!

http://www.blowoutcards.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_101&products_id=1616
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Posted by: Joba62x Mar 30 2010, 02:33 PM

EX is out, second box i saw had 2 jumbo rookies hopefully not a miss-pack, looks like there are more possibility's to get hits this year. no super swatch, looks like 2 patch cards instead.

Yes to the 07NT if not for this month then next, its only one box....

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:51 AM

Hey guys, I received the 09 Exquisite case from Blowout for this one so we are finally set to go! We also have a new addition to our group as BigChief888 joins us with the Bengals. Remember the deadline to submit silent bids for the remaining unclaimed teams is tonight at 8pm and so far I just have bids on 1 team. Pick 'em up cheap at $35!

Just to recap the product list will be cases of 2008NT and 2009 Exquisite. Even with the addition of BigChief888 we don't have as much extra as I hoped (unless the extra teams really sell well) so we're most likely looking at an extra box in the $70-$100 range but we'll see.

I know we have had to wait on this one so let's go ahead and try to do it tonight if that works for folks? We received 2 of the 4 cases for the seperate Exquisite break so we'll do those first at about 8:30pm and then move onto the High End FB group immediately following which should be about 9:15-9:30pm range. If that's too late we can wait until tomorrow but I figure we've waited long enough!

Posted by: Cardman123 Apr 1 2010, 10:34 AM

Tonight sounds good to me! Much easier for me to watch during the week than during the weekend anyways. Good luck everyone!

Posted by: MWS Apr 1 2010, 10:35 AM

Welcome BigChief888!

Chris this better not be a April Fools joke.

Posted by: otter8418 Apr 1 2010, 10:49 AM

that is absolutely perfect with me.

thanks,

doug

Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 12:01 PM

QUOTE(otter8418 @ Apr 1 2010, 07:49 AM)
that is absolutely perfect with me.

thanks,

doug
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Sounds great Chris!

Posted by: MWS Apr 1 2010, 03:57 PM

Good luck tonight my friends.

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Posted by: Joba62x Apr 1 2010, 03:58 PM

i have to work tomorrow so today works great.

Posted by: otter8418 Apr 1 2010, 07:47 PM

only 1 hr and 43 minutes until I get my exquisite cushing auto!!!!!

Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(otter8418 @ Apr 1 2010, 04:47 PM)
only 1 hr and 43 minutes until I get my exquisite cushing auto!!!!!
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I think your calculations are off? Isn't it currently 7:54 Cental time right now?
That would be 35 mins from now! no?

Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 07:57 PM

Nevermind.... I was thinking about the Exquisite break at 8:30! Doug was correct!

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 08:11 PM

Final bids are in;

Bills - Faulkrules - $38
Bucs - NLR4434 - $77
Chiefs - Cardman123 - $40
Jags - BobKoning - $35
Panthers - BobKoning - $35

Congrats to the winners and I'll update the initial post.

Posted by: Cardman123 Apr 1 2010, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Apr 1 2010, 06:11 PM)
Final bids are in;

Bills - Faulkrules - $38
Bucs - NLR4434 - $77
Chiefs - Faulkrules - $38
Jags - BobKoning - $35
Panthers - BobKoning - $35

Congrats to the winners and I'll update the initial post.
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Chris...I sent my bids to you through email...I would have won one of the teams. I'll PM you...

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 08:20 PM

By the way the Bucs obviously garnered the most interest so I need to let you know up fron that a new collector (HoffStar22) has already locked them up for next month so they are off the board for April's (not tonights) break. Welcome HoffStar22!

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 08:33 PM

Correction! Cardman123 had bid on the Chiefs and is actually the high bidder there for $40. Sorry about that guys...I'll update the thread.

Posted by: Cardman123 Apr 1 2010, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Apr 1 2010, 06:33 PM)
Correction! Cardman123 had bid on the Chiefs and is actually the high bidder there for $40. Sorry about that guys...I'll update the thread.
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Thanks Chris...I'll PM you my bids next time. Payment has been sent...

Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Apr 1 2010, 05:11 PM)
Final bids are in;

Bills - Faulkrules - $38
Bucs - NLR4434 - $77
Chiefs - Cardman123 - $40
Jags - BobKoning - $35
Panthers - BobKoning - $35

Congrats to the winners and I'll update the initial post.
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Payment Sent!

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:32 PM

9:30 it is...let's start it off with our case of 2008 National Treasures.

Here's box #1;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qdJiyai5jw


Posted by: Joba62x Apr 1 2010, 09:35 PM

Wow crazy patches in that box

congrats on that crabtree book from the other break MWS that thing was nice

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:35 PM

Hits from Box #1;


Joba62x;


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11Eleven11;


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Yzerisdaman;


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NLR4434;


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Jaxx;


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NLR4434;


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Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 09:37 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Apr 1 2010, 06:35 PM)
Hits from Box #1;
Joba62x;
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11Eleven11;
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Yzerisdaman;
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NLR4434;
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Jaxx;
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NLR4434;
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Whats with the huge scans?

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:37 PM

Box #2 of NT;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzJdwe6WW8

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:39 PM

Yeah sorry about the scans...I've got to play with that later. I ran out of photobucket room so I had to upgrade to "Pro" and ever since I have big pics!

Posted by: BOBKONING Apr 1 2010, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(crpalmi @ Apr 1 2010, 06:39 PM)
Yeah sorry about the scans...I've got to play with that later. I ran out of photobucket room so I had to upgrade to "Pro" and ever since I have big pics!
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Just harrassing you. biggrin.gif

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:43 PM

Hits from box #2;


NLR4434;


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Yzerisdaman;


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BobKoning;


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Yzerisdaman;


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11Eleven11;


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Redemption;
Devin Thomas RC Sigs Jumbo Prime Materials Silver - Deantap

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:45 PM

Here is the last box of NT;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8a79eiBbnY

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:47 PM

Hits from box #3;


BobKoning;


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NLR4434;


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Faulkrules;


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Jaxx;


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Joba62x;


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11Eleven11;


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Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:49 PM

On to our case of 2009 Exquisite (3 boxes).

Here's box #1;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziXhvrtN7w

Posted by: nlr4434 Apr 1 2010, 09:51 PM

Come on Exquisite

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:53 PM

Hits from box #1;


Otter8418;


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Yzerisdaman;


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BobKoning;


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BobKoning;


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NLR4434;


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11Eleven11;


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Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:55 PM

Here's box #2;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1gHAILKhPQ

Posted by: nlr4434 Apr 1 2010, 09:57 PM

Paypal is Sent, thanks Chris

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 09:58 PM

Hits from box #2;


Redemption:
Brian Robiskie/Kenny Britt Auto Book Marks Patch Card - 11Eleven11


Jaxx;


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11Eleven11;


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KPit1978;


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Joba62x;


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Yzerisdaman;


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Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 10:00 PM

Final box of Exquisite;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKRZuOEETYo

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 10:04 PM

Hits from box 3;


Joba62x;


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NLR4434;


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KPit1978;


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Joba62x;


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Cardman123;


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Posted by: nlr4434 Apr 1 2010, 10:07 PM

Thats what I am talking about Exquisite way to bring the bang at the end

And before anyone says UD was stupid to have Sanchez sign the patch, UD has confirmed a few players made the error with that, not the company, as the players were sent instructions on where to sign

Posted by: Cardman123 Apr 1 2010, 10:10 PM

Wow....it came down to the last card for me to avoid being shutout. Oh well...I knew what I was in for with the Rams. Thanks Chris....I'll continue my suffering until the 2010 products start coming out. tongue.gif Congrats to those that got some nice stuff...the new Exquisite is pretty nice.

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 10:10 PM

By my calculations we have enough for a box of 2007 Leaf Limited ($75). I am going to do this just as a recap if that's OK as my wife took the camera on a trip. I'll find another camera from a neighbor for when the other two Exquisite cases arrive (I'm hopefull for tomorrow).

Stray box of 07 Leaf Limited coming up.

Posted by: crpalmi Apr 1 2010, 10:16 PM

Hey, remember we got a hot box of Leaf Limited in the Hobby break? Well we got another one!

Base: Tim Brown #/249 - Yzerisdaman


Ikaika Alama-Francis RC Auto #/299 - Yzerisdaman

Ray McDonald RC Auto #/299 - MWS

Aaron Ross RC Auto (Monikers) #/99 - Joba62x

Roy Williams Banner Season GU Jersey #/25 - Yzerisdaman

Steve Breaston RC Phenoms Auto #5/10 - Oilrig50

Jordan Palmer RC Phenoms Auto #/99 - Deantap

Posted by: Joba62x Apr 1 2010, 10:25 PM

QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Apr 1 2010, 10:07 PM)
Thats what I am talking about Exquisite way to bring the bang at the end

And before anyone says UD was stupid to have Sanchez sign the patch, UD has confirmed a few players made the error with that, not the company, as the players were sent instructions on where to sign
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Yeah it seems they meant to just have the books have the auto on patch and then the normal rookie patch but some got confused, i've seen alot more packing errors this year. One had 3 rookie patches plus the two on the book for five jumbo rookie patch autos in one box.

Great stuff this year we should get more for next month.

And congrats to Yzerisdaman those lions just kept coming!!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Apr 2 2010, 04:08 AM

Boxbreakers March High End FB Group Break Proudly Presents:

The Yzerisdaman Show

Directed by crpalmi

Posted by: 11eleven11 Apr 2 2010, 04:25 AM

QUOTE(Joba62x @ Apr 2 2010, 05:25 AM)
Yeah it seems they meant to just have the books have the auto on patch and then the normal rookie patch but some got confused, i've seen alot more packing errors this year. One had 3 rookie patches plus the two on the book for five jumbo rookie patch autos in one box.

Great stuff this year we should get more for next month.

And congrats to Yzerisdaman those lions just kept coming!!
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yeah i just saw that blink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gyv56squOo

very strange to say the least

Posted by: faulkrules Apr 2 2010, 09:09 AM

$$$ sent for the Bills.

The Packers better draft a decent "hobby" rookie...got one card... the most expensive Xavier Omon card I have ever purchased!

Posted by: 11eleven11 Apr 4 2010, 01:27 PM

bring on the April thread biggrin.gif

Posted by: 11eleven11 Apr 5 2010, 04:54 AM

Eagles trade 6-time Pro Bowl QB McNabb to Redskins.

In a surprise move, the Eagles sent McNabb to the Redskins for a second-round pick (37th overall) in this month’s NFL draft and either a third- or fourth-round pick next year.

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