Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Razor Oval Office Break has been Cancelled

[crpalmi]

***** This break has been cancelled due to lack of participants. Thanks to all who offered to join us! *****
Not sure if there's enough interest out there in this or not but probably by now you've all heard about Razor Oval Office cards that just hit the market? If not, it's a product with a total production of just 99 packs with one card in each pack. The cost is around $2500. What do you get for that?? You get a Presidential Cut Auto #1/1. It's a risk like any other break but the more of these I see broken (remember there's only 99 total) I still haven't seen any of the big boys pulled like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc.. The longer it goes by without these appearing the more tempting it is to give it a shot.

I think it's time we go in on a group break on this and see if we can hit it really big. The cost would be $90 per share and at the current price we would need to fill 30 slots. Because the cost of these packs may fluctuate I can't guarantee we might have to increase by a slot or two to cover the cost after paypal fees but if we can put this together fairly quickly and collect payments soon we should about right on. The grand opening would be on Youtube and we'd sell the card on Ebay shortly after to split the proceeds (after any fees incurred) by the number of slots (hopefully 30 slots)). So.... who's ready to take the gamble with me?

Cost: $90
Payment Deadline: When we hit 25 slots filled

Participants:
1. Crpalmi
2. Prophecy Guy
3. Snkpoct137
4. JDFoxtrot79
5. Mo2116
6. NYMETSJETS
7. Coltsfan27
8. PokerChris
9. JrThurmer
10. TTyler516
11. HDsX
12. Crpalmi
13. Tileman
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[Prophecy Guy]

I'm in for the Miami Dolp.....wait...
I'm in for the Detroit Tig......wait...
I'm in for the Detroit Pist.....wait...
I'm in for the Detroit Red ....wait...

Yeah, I'd be up for something like this, I'd probably prefer the "split the proceeds" idea rather than immediately reinvesting it back into sportscards, but would go with whatever the majority prefers.

Thanks,
Prophecy Guy

[snkpoct137]

i would most certainly be in for this at 90 a pop if we put it on ebay and split the proceeds 30 ways. The cards on ebay right now are selling like crazy and there not even the huge names!

[JDFoxTrot79]

I would be in for a resell on eBay

[mo2116]

id be in for an ebay split

[NYMETSJETS]

Chris....sounds interesting and there are definetely a lot of the big ones still out there from what I've seen. Count me in if it goes down.

[redbaron16]

I would quite possibly be up for it. I like the idea, but it would depend on my financial state at the time.

[crpalmi]

All right guys...that's a good enough start for me to think we can do this. We'll set it up for a group buy and then sell on Ebay right away to split the proceeds. The first post will be updated with participant list. Not sure on payment date but I'd want to try to do this soon as these are getting tougher to find! Due to price fluctuation I won't be able to guarantee the final cost of the box but if we end up short we'll try to add another slot ot two to keep the cost the same. If we can put this together and collect in a week or so we should be fine at the 30 slots.

[crpalmi]

I would quite possibly be up for it. I like the idea, but it would depend on my financial state at the time.

I won't add you in yet but if you feel you're ready to join us just say the word.

[redbaron16]

I won't add you in yet but if you feel you're ready to join us just say the word.

Will do, thanks much.

[aceecards]

the problem is with the big boys not showing up is personal collectors like myself may pull them and not talk!!

[snkpoct137]

the problem is with the big boys not showing up is personal collectors like myself may pull them and not talk!!

u pulled the washington 1/1 and are holding out on us!?!?!?!?

but seriously the only reason i wouldnt tell anyone if i pulled them is worrying i might get robbed :/

[aceecards]

I didnt buy any.. foolish just like scratch off lottry tickets

96 bad chances and 3 good

Lyndon Johnson autos 400
Herbert Hoover 200
Bushes.. probably have to pay someone to take em!
Even FDR or JFK wont get your money back!

How about obscure guys like james Buchanan or Millard Fillmore..

NO

Only Abe, George and Tom will make any money and rest assured if I got one of those it would be in the vault!

Just cause a card is listed on ebay for $18000 doesnt mean it has bids or will sell!

Have fun! But in my opinion this pursuit is a full and their money proposition at best!

BTW Martin Van Buren was pulled by a famous actor according to Brian at Razor so somebody cross him off the blowout list!

[crpalmi]

I understand it's a gamble as any break is but isn't that one of the reason group breaks are good things in these situations. If we lose out then so be it but we won't lose the full $90 and we had a chance to dream for awhile at hitting the big one. I also think you are underestimating prices by alot. Truman who I think is "not a big deal" closed for over $1,000 just today so I think several --- maybe up to 20 of them would be close to money makers if not sure things;

George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt could be close as could Madison or Monroe
JFK

Don't forget about the duals as all these would be close to break even or money makers in my opinion...

FDR and Truman been pulled!
JFK and Lyndon Johnson
JFK and Jackie O
FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt
James Madison and Dolly Madison NOT MADE
FDR and Churchill
Lincoln and Washington
FDR and Hoover
John Quincy Adams and James Monroe
Teddy Roosevelt and FDR
JFK and Jack Ruby
James Madison and James Monroe
JFK and Marilyn Monroe Rumored to have been pulled
John Adams and John Quincy Adams
FDR and Dewey
Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt
JFK and RFK

Again Truman closed for a $1000 that is still a loss of $1700!! OUCH!!!

[coltsfan27]

i think ill take this plunge with you Chris!

[fourkkids]

Ohhhhh man, I can't wait to watch this!!!!!

[crpalmi]

i think ill take this plunge with you Chris!

Thanks Corey...I added you to the list.

[aceecards]

Blowouts tracker as of this AM!

Severly outdated though!

1 Abraham Lincoln
2 Theodore Roosevelt
3 Andrew Jackson
4 Thomas Jefferson
5 Andrew Johnson
6 Ulysses S. Grant 2008 Razor Oval Office Ulysses S. Grant AUTO 1/1 1800's - eBay (item 380102459435 end time Mar-08-09 11:52:06 PDT) * 2008 Razor Oval Office 1/1 !!!!
7 Benjamin Harrison
8 Warren G. Harding
9 Bill Clinton
10 William Henry Harrison
11 Calvin Coolidge
12 William Howard Taft
13 Chester Arthur
14 William McKinley
15 Dwight D. Eisenhower
16 Woodrow Wilson
17 Franklin D. Roosevelt
18 Zachary Taylor
19 Franklin Pierce
20 George Bush
21 George W. Bush
22 George Washington
23 Gerald Ford
24 Grover Cleveland
25 Harry S Truman
26 Herbert Hoover
27 James A. Garfield
28 James Buchanan
29 James K. Polk
30 James Madison
31 James Monroe
32 Jimmy Carter
33 John Adams
34 John F. Kennedy
35 John Quincy Adams
36 John Tyler 08 Razor Oval Office Cut auto 1/1 John Tyler president - eBay (item 290295823437 end time Feb-16-09 19:29:30 PST)
37 Lyndon B. Johnson
38 Martin Van Buren 2008 RAZOR OVAL OFFICE MARTIN VAN BUREN AUTO 1/1 1840 ! - eBay (item 400030641978 end time Feb-21-09 15:00:00 PST)
39 Millard Fillmore
40 Richard Nixon
41 Ronald Reagan
42 Rutherford B. Hayes
43 John Adams / John Quincy Adams
44 Jimmy Carter / Rosalyn Carter
45 Jimmy Carter / Menachim Begin
46 Jimmy Carter / Gerald Ford
47 Jimmy Carter / Anwar Sadat
48 James Madison / James Monroe
49 *Benjamin Harrison / Caroline Harrison 2008 Razor Oval Office DUAL AUTO BENJAMIN HARRISON 1/1 - eBay (item 270341001807 end time Feb-16-09 11:43:55 PST)
50 James A. Garfield / Charles Guiteau
51 Herbert Hoover / Lou Henry Hoover
52 Abraham Lincoln / George Washington
53 John F. Kennedy / Lyndon Johnson
54 Andrew Johnson / Salmon P. Chase
55 John F. Kennedy / Jackie Onassis-Kennedy
56 Barack Obama / John McCain
57 John F. Kennedy / Marilyn Monroe
58 Benjamin Harrison / Grover Cleveland
59 John Kennedy / Bobby Kennedy
60 Benjamin Harrison / Levi Morton
61 John Kennedy / Jack Ruby
62 Bill Clinton / Bob Dole John
63 Quincy Adams / James Monroe
64 Bill Clinton / George Bush Sr. BILL CLINTON GEORGE H BUSH DUAL CUT SIGNATURE AUTO 1/1 - eBay (item 380102538521 end time Feb-16-09 18:23:21 PST)
65 Lyndon Johnson / Lady Bird Johnson
66 Bill Clinton/ Al Gore
67 Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford 2008 Razor Oval Office Cut auto Nixon Ford 1/1 dual - eBay (item 290294675375 end time Feb-11-09 19:25:15 PST)
68 Calvin Coolidge / Charles Dawes
69 Richard Nixon / Hubert Humphrey
70 Calvin Coolidge / Grace Coolidge
71 Richard Nixon / Patricia Nixon
72 Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon
73 Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew
74 Franklin Roosevelt / Eleanor Roosevelt
75 Ronald Reagan / George Bush Sr.
76 Franklin Roosevelt / Harry Truman (pending link) pulled from box #77/99
77 Ronald Reagan / Jimmy Carter
78 Franklin Roosevelt / Herbert Hoover
79 Ronald Reagan / Margaret Thatcher Ronald Reagan/Thatcher Razor Oval Office CUT AUTO 1/1 - eBay (item 200308902091 end time Feb-17-09 16:18:16 PST)
80 ** Franklin Roosevelt / Thomas Dewey
81 Ronald Reagan / Mikail Gorbachev 2008 Razor Oval Office Cut auto Reagan Gorbachev 1/1 - eBay (item 290295593954 end time Feb-15-09 19:29:00 PST)
82 Franklin Roosevelt / Winston Churchill
83 Ronald Reagan / Nancy Reagan
84 George Bush Sr. / Barbara Bush
85 Ronald Reagan / Oliver North
86 George Bush Sr. / George W. Bush
87 Theodore Roosevelt / Franklin Roosevelt
88 George W. Bush / Al Gore
89 Warren Harding / William Taft
90 Gerald Ford / Betty Ford
91 Warren Harding / Calvin Coolidge
92 Gerald Ford / Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme
93 Warren Harding / Florence Harding
94 Harry Truman / Bess Truman 2008 Razor Oval Office Cut auto Harry Truman 1/1 dual - eBay (item 290294675110 end time Feb-11-09 19:22:57 PST)
95 William McKinley / William Jennings Bryan
96 Harry Truman / Herbert Hoover
97 William Taft / Helen Taft
98 Harry Truman / Thomas Dewey
99 Woodrow Wilson / Charles E. Hughes
100 Woodrow Wilson / Theodore Roosevelt

* #49 was originally James Madison / Dolley Madison but has been replaced by Harrison/Harrison as noted above
** #80 was originally Franklin Roosevelt / Thomas Dewey and has been noted that this combination was not produced. No replacement announced yet.

[jrthurmer]

Heck why not. I'll take a spot.

[crpalmi]

Thanks Aceecards. I've been watching Blowouts list as well. I'll be curious to see how the Roosevelts and JFK duals sell when they get pulled as I think they'll be pretty good. Of course most people are posting Buy-it-nows with huge starting prices to see what they can draw so it's hard to tell what they'll end up going for. I still think there's a bunch that would serve us well and about 5 that would bring insane money. Then again for the cup half empty crowd out there there are a number of duds (if you can call a presidential cut signature a dud) that would be a loss as well.

This will either be a quick filler or will fade away fast as I don't want to string people along on this one. If we can't come close to filling by the end of the weekend I think I'll drop the idea so if anyone is interested in the gamble speak up now!!