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THE OFFICIAL FB Team HOBBY BOX CLUB - April 2011


Box Selection -


2009 SPX
2010 Gridiron Gear
2010 Threads
2010 Press Pass SE box set x2
2010 Topps Platinum


This months breaker - WestCoastSkinsFan

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1. WestCoastSkinsFan - San Diego Chargers
2. Rhody_Red_Pats - New York Jets
3. bajmurray - Buffalo Bills
4. Karlito's Way - Oakland Raiders
5. Cool Hand Flash - Arizona Cardinals
6. flea - Baltimore Ravens
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8. SuPaDuPa916 - Philadelphia Eagles
9. DCool - Atlanta Falcons
10. alhill37 - Tennessee Titans
11. Pejarox7620 - New Orleans Saints
12. 19th Century Indiana Jones - Seattle Seahawks
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AFC West
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Denver Broncos - SuPaDuPa916
Kansas City Chiefs - Propechy Guy

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NFC East
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NFC North
Chicago Bears - flea
Detroit Lions - Pejarox7620
Minnesota Vikings - echunks
Green Bay Packers - thesobons


NFC South
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Takeobeavis

Atlanta Falcons -
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Carolina Panthers - WestCoastSkinsFan

NFC West
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San Francisco 49ers - DCool

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16 Members. You pick your team. The 16 remaining teams will be picked by a draft held each month.

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You get all base, inserts, gu, autos, ect of your teams that is pulled from the boxes.

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2) Multiple player cards go to the member who gets least amount of Autos & Gued from his owned team. Member must own the team that is part of the multiple player card. Only owned teams will be part of the evaluation.
3) Multiple player cards Tie Breaker - Includes owned team serial numbered cards are counted along with the autos & game used cards, from their owned team.

If you fail to pay by the DUE DATE, YOU will not participate in the break. Your team will be sold and your membership forfeited.

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post Mar 20 2011, 06:26 PM
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I actually just realized that any of the draft products wouldn't really be a good fit for this month. The draft isn't until the end of April, so we may just need to wait until early May, or we won't know what player goes where.

This MAY be a good month for reviewing some products we enjoyed, or perhaps just go looking for some good deals.

Also, sadly, it looks as though mjda won't be a part of our group any longer. I've contacted the first member of our waiting list, who I hope to hear from shortly.


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post Mar 20 2011, 06:31 PM
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Actually, that was quite fast! I got word back that our new member will be bajmurray! He'd like to come back aboard with the Cowboys.

I know that we normally also allow for a period of time for existing members to swap teams as well, so if anyone else is interested in the newly freed-up Cowboys, please post your intent. I'll random them off 3 days from now if needed.


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So I had an interesting idea yesterday on this month's break: hit optimization. I've been working with a lot of spreadsheets and data recently, and I thought, hey, why not apply it to cards!

Basically, I took products from BlowoutCards and Atlanta Sports Cards and did a quick analysis of the price of the product, and how many hits you get, basically breaking down how much you pay per hit. I know that's not all there is to boxes, but looking at this objectively could be interesting. Here are the top 10 products:


Press Pass PE Kickoff $25.00 4 $6.25
Sage Autographed $100.00 12 $8.33
UD Sweet Spot $63.00 6 $10.50
Press Pass $59.00 5 $11.80
Sage Hit Low $79.00 6 $13.17
Bowman Sterling $260.00 19 $13.68
Rated Rookies $16.00 1 $16.00
Panini Crown Royale $75.00 4 $18.75
Panini Prestige $78.00 4 $19.50

Lots of Sage and Press Pass, not too surprisingly. We did have an interesting "winner" though.

Atlanta Sports Cards has an oddball product called Press Pass Portrait Edition Kickoff, which you can see here:

http://atlsportscards.com/index.php?main_p...roducts_id=2122

Basically, since Press Pass never actually released their Legends product this year, it looks like they had a bunch of rookie autos they didn't have anything to do with. You get 4 per box here, which is a pretty awesome deal actually. They put these on sale for $25 pretty often, so this might be an interesting way to spend some of money this month to increase our volume and get one last stab at a lower-end Bradford, Clausen or Dez that's been eluding us this year.

Some other ones that potentially have my interest are normal Press Pass at a good low cost per hit, and Sterling, which we only did a pack's worth of this year. Both are pretty efficient in terms of $ to hit ratio.


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For giggles, btw, I've included the bottom 10 in terms of the worst ratio of hits per dollar. Interesting names in there:


Topps $33.00 1 $33.00
Panini Absolute $136.00 4 $34.00
UD SP Authentic $121.00 3 $40.33
Topps Tribute $245.00 6 $40.83
Topps Chrome $59.00 1 $59.00
Playoff National Treasures $376.00 6 $62.67
Topps Triple Threads $134.00 2 $67.00
Topps Finest $141.00 2 $70.50
Topps 5 Star $510.00 5 $102.00
Topps Supreme $131.00 1 $131.00


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Yea....we break Press Pass and that's when I get a Bradford...but, then again maybe not....laugh.gif


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Hey, a low end Bradford would be better than no Bradford at all, right?

Totally not married to this idea, btw. Just got my statistical side revved up so I figured I could at least share what I found.


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I do not need base or anything with Vick on it, he is a scum bag.

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Prophecy Guy Nation confirms the Kansas City Chiefs for this month's break!

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Main Focus: Alex Brink, ANDREW LUCK, Peyton Manning, Thomas Robinson and Ultimate Collection.

Also Collecting: Beanie Wells, Bo Jackson, John Tavares, Karl-Anthony Towns, Kyle Turley, LeBron James, Ryan Nassib, Vitor Belfort, Star Trek, Wrestling and other stuff..

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Some potential product ideas:


Option 1: Hit Optimization

2010 Press Pass SE Kickoff Boxset (4 autos) - $35
2010 Press Pass SE Kickoff Boxset (4 autos) - $35
2010 Press Pass SE Kickoff Boxset (4 autos) - $35
2010 Bowman Sterling (19 hits) - $260

Total: $365, 31 hits (I can probably hit a sale and get another SE Boxset, making it 35 hits)


Option 2: Revisiting Old Favorites (Best value in the past year's breaks)

2009 SPX (10 hits) - $85
2010 Gridiron Gear (4 hits) - $83
2010 Threads (4 hits) - $80
2010 Press Pass (5 hits) - $59
2010 Topps Platinum (3 hits) - $86

Total: $393 (I'll cover the difference, or we can all throw in an extra $1, or something), 26 hits


Option 3: Stuff We Never Actually Tried

2010 Topps Tribute (6 hits) - $245
2010 Topps Triple Threads (2 hits) - $141

Total: $386, 8 hits (but biggies!)


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I like 2. No problem kicking an extra buck or 2.


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im in and option 2



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