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Here we go again...someone is leaving the hobby
Gforce083 |
Mar 3 2012, 08:48 PM
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It's true, I of all people am stepping away from this great hobby. First I will say, this is not easy for me to even say and I still have to follow through with it. My love for this hobby is still as strong as ever, I know this process is going to hurt. I started collecting long ago when an uncle of mine owned a card shop in my local town. I have been involved in this hobby for the majority of my life, so actually going through with this is like losing a part of myself. I have never been in this hobby as a financial investment. It's always been done as another way to enjoy a sport and players I enjoy. So you're probably asking why, why would he be leaving something he still loves and enjoyes so much? That answer can be a bit complicated or very simple, depending on how you look at it. For the past year or so I've have this thought in the back of my mind; "These cards don't matter in the bigger picture of life" and the question, "Do I value these cards more than I do the things much more important?" At one point, I asked my wife "Do you see my card collecting as a bad thing?" and she said "No, I know you enjoy it and I see nothing wrong with it" Hearing that from here suppressed some of my feelings many months ago. Knowing that I enjoy it so much and knowing how much a part of my life it is, I continued. Eventually, those thoughts crept back into my mind, almost to a point of conviction. Then came a clear confirmation this past Friday... I was listening to an interview between David Platt and Katie Davis (I'll explain who they are in a minute), by the end of it, the only thought I had was "I have to sell my collection, period." If you don't know, I am a Christian, I admittedly haven't always been the best example of that throughout my time here but that is where my belief resides. With that in mind, over the past couple years, I, like many non-Christians as well, have grown very skeptical and uncomfortable with the "American Church". Now, all that is for another discussion... However, it was because of those feelings that I really began to seek out truth and tried to understand what the biblical Gospel really is (I'm still learning). In my quest, the more I learned, the more I felt it needed to change on my life. What good is it for me to learn and better understand things and not live a life that reflects that understanding? So what does that have to do with card collecting? I see nothing inherently wrong with being involved in this hobby, not one bit. No part of me feels like card collecting is a "sin", don't think that's what I'm getting at here. With me, heres my issue... I have let this hobby get to such a place in my life where I value it more so than I do much more important things, even God. When something gets to that point in a Christians life, it's an idol, and that can't be. Another part of this is about Jesus' teachings on living a "simple" life and having a heart for giving. As I began to understand that more, I realized that all I'm doing is accumulating stuff, that's all it is, stuff. I finally realized that I struggle between how much I valued this hobby in my life, compared to how much I valued God. That is why I have to get out and why I have such a strong conviction to do so. If you're a fellow believer in Christ, I don't know how this hits you. I am not saying you're wrong or doing anything against God for being involved in this hobby. If it's in a place in your life where you have a healthy control over it and it doesn't out-value God in your life, I see nothing wrong with it. What I will say is that, if you were asked to give this or anything for that matter, up for the sake of your faith, could you? If we have the same reaction as the "rich man" did when Jesus told him to sell all he had and then come follow him and we struggle with making that choice...then we know there's a problem. And that's where I am. I said it at the beginning of the post, walking away from this hobby is going to be painful. However, I know once I walk through this, It's going to be worth it when I come out on the other side. Could I come back to this hobby one day? I can't answer that at this moment. I told you earlier, I'd explain who these two people are... David Platt is the pastor of Brook Hills Church in Birmingham, AL and Katie Davis is a 23-24 year old woman from Nashville, TN who now lives in Uganda running an organization called Amazima. Platt is a man who has set out to turn the "American Church" upside down, or rather, right side up. I admire what God is doing through him and his life. Katie Davis has gone against the cultural norm, her parents desires and followed the instructions she felt God placed on her life. It's a truly amazing story and she is doing great things in the country of Uganda. For this, I am not selling my collection as a means to gain the monetary value from it. The majority of what I bring in is going to be donated directly to Katie's organization, Amazima. If you're interested in what really ignited such a change in my life, here is the full 54min interview between Platt and Davis (I find it worth the time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmWW_qL9IoIf you're not inclined to watch that, here is a short (3min) promo on Amazima and what they do: http://youtu.be/jGyYsA62CxYIf you'd like any "teachings" relating to anything I've been talking about, let me know and I'll pass those along. Lastly, my entire Photobucket is for sale. Every last card, so check it out and let me know what you need prices on. PS. I don't own the Matt Ryan 1/1 anymore and all Bears stuff could be going to my dad. http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Gforce083TS/
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Mar 4 2012, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Gforce083 @ Mar 3 2012, 07:48 PM) It's true, I of all people am stepping away from this great hobby. First I will say, this is not easy for me to even say and I still have to follow through with it. My love for this hobby is still as strong as ever, I know this process is going to hurt. I started collecting long ago when an uncle of mine owned a card shop in my local town. I have been involved in this hobby for the majority of my life, so actually going through with this is like losing a part of myself. I have never been in this hobby as a financial investment. It's always been done as another way to enjoy a sport and players I enjoy. So you're probably asking why, why would he be leaving something he still loves and enjoyes so much? That answer can be a bit complicated or very simple, depending on how you look at it. For the past year or so I've have this thought in the back of my mind; "These cards don't matter in the bigger picture of life" and the question, "Do I value these cards more than I do the things much more important?" At one point, I asked my wife "Do you see my card collecting as a bad thing?" and she said "No, I know you enjoy it and I see nothing wrong with it" Hearing that from here suppressed some of my feelings many months ago. Knowing that I enjoy it so much and knowing how much a part of my life it is, I continued. Eventually, those thoughts crept back into my mind, almost to a point of conviction. Then came a clear confirmation this past Friday... I was listening to an interview between David Platt and Katie Davis (I'll explain who they are in a minute), by the end of it, the only thought I had was "I have to sell my collection, period." If you don't know, I am a Christian, I admittedly haven't always been the best example of that throughout my time here but that is where my belief resides. With that in mind, over the past couple years, I, like many non-Christians as well, have grown very skeptical and uncomfortable with the "American Church". Now, all that is for another discussion... However, it was because of those feelings that I really began to seek out truth and tried to understand what the biblical Gospel really is (I'm still learning). In my quest, the more I learned, the more I felt it needed to change on my life. What good is it for me to learn and better understand things and not live a life that reflects that understanding? So what does that have to do with card collecting? I see nothing inherently wrong with being involved in this hobby, not one bit. No part of me feels like card collecting is a "sin", don't think that's what I'm getting at here. With me, heres my issue... I have let this hobby get to such a place in my life where I value it more so than I do much more important things, even God. When something gets to that point in a Christians life, it's an idol, and that can't be. Another part of this is about Jesus' teachings on living a "simple" life and having a heart for giving. As I began to understand that more, I realized that all I'm doing is accumulating stuff, that's all it is, stuff. I finally realized that I struggle between how much I valued this hobby in my life, compared to how much I valued God. That is why I have to get out and why I have such a strong conviction to do so. If you're a fellow believer in Christ, I don't know how this hits you. I am not saying you're wrong or doing anything against God for being involved in this hobby. If it's in a place in your life where you have a healthy control over it and it doesn't out-value God in your life, I see nothing wrong with it. What I will say is that, if you were asked to give this or anything for that matter, up for the sake of your faith, could you? If we have the same reaction as the "rich man" did when Jesus told him to sell all he had and then come follow him and we struggle with making that choice...then we know there's a problem. And that's where I am. I said it at the beginning of the post, walking away from this hobby is going to be painful. However, I know once I walk through this, It's going to be worth it when I come out on the other side. Could I come back to this hobby one day? I can't answer that at this moment. I told you earlier, I'd explain who these two people are... David Platt is the pastor of Brook Hills Church in Birmingham, AL and Katie Davis is a 23-24 year old woman from Nashville, TN who now lives in Uganda running an organization called Amazima. Platt is a man who has set out to turn the "American Church" upside down, or rather, right side up. I admire what God is doing through him and his life. Katie Davis has gone against the cultural norm, her parents desires and followed the instructions she felt God placed on her life. It's a truly amazing story and she is doing great things in the country of Uganda. For this, I am not selling my collection as a means to gain the monetary value from it. The majority of what I bring in is going to be donated directly to Katie's organization, Amazima. If you're interested in what really ignited such a change in my life, here is the full 54min interview between Platt and Davis (I find it worth the time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmWW_qL9IoIf you're not inclined to watch that, here is a short (3min) promo on Amazima and what they do: http://youtu.be/jGyYsA62CxYIf you'd like any "teachings" relating to anything I've been talking about, let me know and I'll pass those along. Lastly, my entire Photobucket is for sale. Every last card, so check it out and let me know what you need prices on. PS. I don't own the Matt Ryan 1/1 anymore and all Bears stuff could be going to my dad. http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Gforce083TS/Good luck in your other ventures Gary. I highlighted a certain sentence in your post as I feel it is very important. When cards overshadow anything of importance in your life (be it God or even your family), it may be time to not necessarily leave the hobby, but at the very least to rethink your priorities. Sometimes this hobby can take control. At times I wish I could make an easy break with the hobby, although I do enjoy it. As a fellow Christian I can completely see where you are coming from.
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Mar 4 2012, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(ffman @ Mar 4 2012, 11:50 AM) Good luck in your other ventures Gary. I highlighted a certain sentence in your post as I feel it is very important. When cards overshadow anything of importance in your life (be it God or even your family), it may be time to not necessarily leave the hobby, but at the very least to rethink your priorities. Sometimes this hobby can take control. At times I wish I could make an easy break with the hobby, although I do enjoy it. As a fellow Christian I can completely see where you are coming from. Definitely. I wish it could be just a break for me, but my conviction was to sell and GIVE. My collection is the one thing in my house that holds some value, yet it totally unnecessary to this life. I say that, fully loving all that this hobby was and is for me, I still love it. But, it's the one thing I'm holding on to so dearly that I'm struggling to choose it or my faith. There-in-lies the problem and the reason why it must go. As I go through stuff people are asking me about, I keep thinking "oh I can keep just this one or just these few" but that defeats the whole purpose... hanging onto to any of it proves nothing and creates no change in my perspective.
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Gforce083 Here we go again...someone is leaving the hobby Mar 3 2012, 08:48 PM sasports First, I am sorry to hear that you are leaving th... Mar 3 2012, 09:01 PM Gforce083
Thanks. I'll try to look out for any 616... Mar 3 2012, 09:39 PM RGBII [b]While you and I have had our scraps, know this ... Mar 3 2012, 09:10 PM Gforce083
Thanks Richard. We all got some heathen in us...... Mar 3 2012, 09:44 PM mjda I must say that I'm absolutely, positively, 10... Mar 3 2012, 09:25 PM Gforce083
Me too! Thank you for your comments though. ... Mar 3 2012, 09:45 PM aceecards Well Gary, the lord works in mysterious ways!
... Mar 3 2012, 09:37 PM Gforce083
Thanks Steve. Mar 3 2012, 09:45 PM captkirk42 Sad to see you leave the hobby, but I can understa... Mar 3 2012, 09:38 PM Gforce083
Truth, our treasure is in the Kingdom not the ea... Mar 3 2012, 09:46 PM redwing40 I might be new here Gary, but understand your acti... Mar 3 2012, 09:48 PM snkpoct137 Gary, I know how you feel in many ways. I too have... Mar 3 2012, 10:40 PM Gforce083
Thank you for the affirmation. I can't say t... Mar 3 2012, 11:20 PM snkpoct137
Its not that i didnt have a life, its just that ... Mar 3 2012, 11:24 PM urbanmonk Sounds like you have put a lot of thought into it ... Mar 4 2012, 12:27 AM bajmurray Sorry to see you leave.
However, each of us is bl... Mar 4 2012, 01:12 AM northicehero99 Gary, sorry to hear this and glad for you. I thin... Mar 4 2012, 08:19 AM Gforce083
Oh yeah, trust me, this has very little to do w... Mar 4 2012, 09:18 AM Gforce083 I'll be completely honest, I just had someone ... Mar 4 2012, 11:38 PM osufan2383 good luck man. If I had my job still I would see w... Mar 5 2012, 12:54 AM chopinalex Proud of you Gary..i'm leaning toward dumping ... Mar 5 2012, 11:15 PM Cool_Hand_Flash I'm sorry to see you leave Gary. But I'm h... Mar 5 2012, 11:29 PM Gforce083
Mr. Ultimate could not be denied! Mar 5 2012, 11:38 PM Gforce083 I've updated my photo bucket and put everythin... Mar 5 2012, 11:51 PM Gforce083 During this journey, I want to be the best steward... Mar 6 2012, 11:47 AM pwolantern I am sorry to see you leave, but I do wish you the... Mar 6 2012, 01:36 PM Gforce083
Thanks man!
To all, I almost forgot. But I... Mar 6 2012, 02:33 PM Gadsden86 Its sad to see another person leave the hobby. I m... Mar 6 2012, 04:50 PM Gforce083
Thanks for the comments and thoughts. Every Chri... Mar 6 2012, 06:07 PM nlr4434 G sorry to see you leave but I admire you for bein... Mar 6 2012, 06:57 PM chopinalex I love you Gary! Mar 6 2012, 09:14 PM Gforce083
:wub: :hug: :serenade: :winkiss: :inlove: ... Mar 9 2012, 10:56 AM Gforce083 Meant to post this the other day....
Taking my fi... Mar 9 2012, 05:54 PM Gforce083 I'm what, on my 24th day into this journey so ... Mar 26 2012, 10:43 AM Gforce083 The past few mail outs haven't been much easie... Apr 5 2012, 10:21 AM msw_sportscards Gary,
Good luck with your journey. God's ... Apr 9 2012, 11:41 PM Gforce083 One of the toughest lots to send out the door...
h... Apr 10 2012, 10:10 PM Gforce083 Another BIG and difficult move today! My two C... Apr 13 2012, 11:17 AM batman1641 Sorry to hear you are leaving. But I understand w... Apr 15 2012, 03:04 PM redwing40 Sometimes I think about what you are saying, as my... Apr 15 2012, 04:46 PM Gforce083
So my awesomeness is deeply suppressed because ... Apr 15 2012, 05:13 PM Gforce083 Been a while since I've done an update.
I... May 18 2012, 02:46 PM
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