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Posted by: edgerrin32 Jan 29 2011, 02:21 PM

What exactly is going on in Egypt? I have seen stuff on yahoo and also some stuff on the like world news channels, but they are not really saying exactly. They are mostly taking about like the fights and protest but not really telling much more? I don't watch the news a lot so I didn't really see how this got started. All I really know is its crazy there right now and I guess the people want the leader out! But LMK?

Posted by: RGBII Jan 29 2011, 03:38 PM

There is a huge, young, well-educated middle class
that is underemployed or underpaid. These 20-40
year old protesters have put up with this governments
lack of social and economic reform for 30 years.

The stew was bound to boil over.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: aceecards Jan 29 2011, 04:18 PM

hmmm.

I suspect leftist muslims are to blame but...

Posted by: sahetu Jan 31 2011, 11:43 AM

hmmm.

I suspect leftist muslims are to blame but...

Posted by: cdoyal Feb 1 2011, 11:08 AM

I've heard the issue is with runaway inflation and high food prices.

Posted by: cbware88 Feb 1 2011, 11:37 AM

They are feed up with taxes, corrupt politicans, and unemployment......not to mention the fact that the Government is trying to pass a Health Care agenda that will force the middle class into bankruptcy

Whoops.......nevermind

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but think about it

Posted by: aceecards Feb 1 2011, 12:08 PM

and now..

the leftist muslim groups swoops in to take over the government!

Posted by: cdoyal Feb 1 2011, 12:15 PM

and now..

the leftist muslim groups swoops in to take over the government!

Posted by: ffman Feb 1 2011, 12:16 PM

hmmm.

I suspect leftist muslims are to blame but...

Posted by: cdoyal Feb 1 2011, 12:22 PM

I wouldn't say they are to blame, but they will incite more uproar. 

And I would simply call them extremists, not "leftist".

Regardless, let's just hope they don't take power.

Posted by: msw_sportscards Feb 1 2011, 04:16 PM

My take on it is the protests started over food shortages and inflation. However, now Hamas and other fundamental Islamists are flooding across the borders through the Sinai peninsula. Subsequently, the protests are becoming more violent.

Side commentary: Mubarak isn't the greatest leader in the world, but Egypt has nuclear capability and I'm not sure allowing him to be ousted is in our best interests when taken into account the allegations that Iran funded muslim groups are flooding into the country.

On the other hand, this seems like a classic case of divide and conquer. Let's see how many directions we can pull the American Military before they falter.

If the allegations are true, perhaps the Iranian President is familiar with this piece of wisdom: "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: cdoyal Feb 1 2011, 04:22 PM

My take on it is the protests started over food shortages and inflation. However, now Hamas and other fundamental Islamists are flooding across the borders through the Sinai peninsula. Subsequently, the protests are becoming more violent.

Side commentary: Mubarak isn't the greatest leader in the world, but Egypt has nuclear capability and I'm not sure allowing him to be ousted is in our best interests when taken into account the allegations that Iran funded muslim groups are flooding into the country.

On the other hand, this seems like a classic case of divide and conquer. Let's see how many directions we can pull the American Military before they falter.

If the allegations are true, perhaps the Iranian President is familiar with this piece of wisdom: "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: msw_sportscards Feb 1 2011, 05:15 PM

Chris,

If you're referring to sports teams, only U of I. If you're referring to politicians, only downstate politicians. I think everyone south of I-80 should band together and secede from the dictatorship. I didn't vote for the Messiah, but that's a discussion for a different thread.

Great post. Very well said!

Oh, wait a minute. You're an Illinois guy. Never mind...

Posted by: cdoyal Feb 1 2011, 05:38 PM

Chris,

    If you're referring to sports teams, only U of I. If you're referring to politicians, only downstate politicians. I think everyone south of I-80 should band together and secede from the dictatorship. I didn't vote for the Messiah, but that's a discussion for a different thread.

Posted by: aceecards Feb 1 2011, 07:41 PM

extremists leftists revolutionaries what have you

you got the picture

Posted by: RGBII Feb 1 2011, 07:53 PM

Puleeze, can we get all of the foreign
affairs experts in here to babble incoherently concerning
the cause(s) of the Egyptian crisis?

I am impressed by the roll call thus far.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: sahetu Feb 2 2011, 10:23 AM

From what I understand/read/heard (BBC, AP) it's the Mubarak supporters who are getting violent, especially today. As for "extremist" or "leftist" let me just say that MANY of the Egyptian protesters are young and have Western educations (and highly educated). The majority aren't following any particular extremist viewpoint. They simply want a government that isn't corrupt... They want elections. You can't condemn a mass protest simply because a few fringe groups have used it to get their voice heard on world news. Nothing says that Egypt will be anti-American when this is over, if anything these young people are very pro-American. They have treated our people and reporters with respect as this has been happening, as far as I know.

Posted by: ffman Feb 2 2011, 12:05 PM

It's getting worse, thanks to pro-Mubarak protesters. Throwing molotov cocktails in the square, off the top of buildings, etc

Anderson Cooper and other reporters had to leave the area as they were being attacked as well.

Posted by: RGBII Feb 2 2011, 07:27 PM

I find it laughable that Western political
terminology "leftists" is being used to
compartmentalize a culture and a movement
that dates back to 3,000 B.C. or earlier.

It hardly applies to these folks that
have never lived under a Democracy.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: edgerrin32 Feb 3 2011, 09:29 PM

I kinda get this feeling that we will be soon heading over with troops if this doesn't stop and really fast!


They are now started shooting in the streets! The death toll is rising. Its crazy from what they are showing on the news channels.


And I thought Egypt was a ally of ours?


And they are not being nice to us over there, thats why they were telling all Americans to leave as soon as they can! And there was a reporter of two that had to run because they were get beat on, I think one of them was hurt bad in the face!


And there was another country that was saying the were going to stop helping them or cut of money or invade or something like that if it didn't stop. I cant think of hand what country it was.

Posted by: RGBII Feb 3 2011, 10:05 PM

I kinda get this feeling that we will be soon heading over with troops if this doesn't stop and really fast!


Not gonna happen!

Our Generals and our President are well aware
of how stretched our Armed Forces are at the moment.

They are now started shooting in the streets! The death toll is rising. Its crazy from what they are showing on the news channels.
And I thought Egypt was a ally of ours?

They aren't protesting/shooting/molotoving due
to the U.S. They are adamantly and righteously
"voicing"their dissent over 30 years of autocratic
rule and economic malaise.

And they are not being nice to us over there, that's why they were telling all Americans to leave as soon as they can! And there was a reporter of two that had to run because they were get beat on, I think one of them was hurt bad in the face!

Supporters of the Power(s) That Be!

And there was another country that was saying the were going to stop helping them or cut of money or invade or something like that if it didn't stop. I cant think of hand what country it was.

No one, as a foreign entity, is going to invade
the sovereign nation of Egypt.

Posted by: msw_sportscards Feb 4 2011, 12:01 PM

I just hope that the bloodshed and genuine heroism
of the movement are the first chapter in a very long
and lasting democracy.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: tj2373 Feb 23 2011, 06:32 PM

It's happening all over this region (Libya, Bahrain, Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt, etc) even in the location I am deployed to, the PEOPLE are tired of the corrupt politicians living fat and happy off their hard work.

Domino Effect, gotta love it. Just read an article on CNN, 15 countries in the region have had protests, here's the link (and yes the base I am at is mentioned under Djibouti).

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/23/mideast.africa.unrest/index.html?hpt=T2

They want CHANGE, just like US in the States.

And what's even better, the protestors want nothing to do with Al Qaeda.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/23/bergen.revolt.binladen/index.html

Posted by: chopinalex Feb 23 2011, 06:39 PM

This is what happens when a nation cannot get it peeps! Pandemonium! Sugarmonium! Peepamonium!