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[mvpujols#5]

I was thinking about the war and if it starts another WWIII.
So when i was thinking i thought that if there was aliens at area-51 or anywere that bush or the goverment could let them go and they could help us fight the war.Because if they helped us then they could whoop some terrrorist but.

And i was just thinking about that, and lmk what you all think about this.

P.S. i know this sounds kind of crazy but please put down your comments.

[bob_TCC]

Ok. Funny thing is that I'm not sure if this is the most "far out" thing I've ever read in the Politics forum.

-Bob

[mvpujols#5]

I really was debating whether to put it here or in the everything else forum so if it is in the wrong spot please change it.

[über]

not goin to happen!

it's ok... i respect your opinion

[racedraper]

Hiw do you know that they are not helping us. Look at the aircraft designs. hmmmmm. look hw much we advanced for when rosewell thingy!

Look at the computers. from the size of a room to nano technology..I allways like to talk about this. its fun

[artyman60]

HAHA, this is a rather humorous topic but if by some chance there is a WWIII Im sure we could use all the help we could get and if that is a bunch of hidden aliens then so be it

[bufbillsstlcards]

A. We dont need help winning a war. We havent since our first war, the Revolutionary war.
B. Aliens dont exist.
C. Im with Racedrapper, I love talking and reading about this stuff.

[skatalite]

A great man, and one of my heroes, William Cooper, came up with these two ideas:

•Aliens exist and are in contact with the government for reasons as-of-yet unknown to us
•The alien threat is fabricated by the government for a later use

Now, Cooper was a conspiracy theorist. The thing that separates him from other theorists is he used to be a Naval Intelligence Officer. When he first began his career in the Navy, he was on a cruiser cleaning the deck and saw a UFO fly out of the ocean, then return a minute later and fly back into it. He was questioned on what he saw at the next port stop. He decided to say he saw nothing because the two others who said they saw things came out of the Admiral's office white as ghosts.

He quickly climbed the ranks and while at the pinnacle of his career saw a document titled MAJESTY12, in which it confirms 12 individuals control the U.S. government, something many people call the "Shadow Government."

In any case, he spent a couple years while in the Navy researching it, making connections and gathering information. He then left the Navy and began making the information public.

Cooper's conclusions about aliens were drawn from documents he obtained from other military intelligent officers.

If interested, read his book "Behold A Pale Horse." He was murdered in 2001.

[broncojim]

A great man, and one of my heroes, William Cooper, came up with these two ideas:

•Aliens exist and are in contact with the government for reasons as-of-yet unknown to us
•The alien threat is fabricated by the government for a later use

Now, Cooper was a conspiracy theorist. The thing that separates him from other theorists is he used to be a Naval Intelligence Officer. When he first began his career in the Navy, he was on a cruiser cleaning the deck and saw a UFO fly out of the ocean, then return a minute later and fly back into it. He was questioned on what he saw at the next port stop. He decided to say he saw nothing because the two others who said they saw things came out of the Admiral's office white as ghosts.

He quickly climbed the ranks and while at the pinnacle of his career saw a document titled MAJESTY12, in which it confirms 12 individuals control the U.S. government, something many people call the "Shadow Government."

In any case, he spent a couple years while in the Navy researching it, making connections and gathering information. He then left the Navy and began making the information public.

Cooper's conclusions about aliens were drawn from documents he obtained from other military intelligent officers.

If interested, read his book "Behold A Pale Horse." He was murdered in 2001.

COOL!

[oldspice_007]

A great man, and one of my heroes, William Cooper, came up with these two ideas:

•Aliens exist and are in contact with the government for reasons as-of-yet unknown to us
•The alien threat is fabricated by the government for a later use

Now, Cooper was a conspiracy theorist. The thing that separates him from other theorists is he used to be a Naval Intelligence Officer. When he first began his career in the Navy, he was on a cruiser cleaning the deck and saw a UFO fly out of the ocean, then return a minute later and fly back into it. He was questioned on what he saw at the next port stop. He decided to say he saw nothing because the two others who said they saw things came out of the Admiral's office white as ghosts.

He quickly climbed the ranks and while at the pinnacle of his career saw a document titled MAJESTY12, in which it confirms 12 individuals control the U.S. government, something many people call the "Shadow Government."

In any case, he spent a couple years while in the Navy researching it, making connections and gathering information. He then left the Navy and began making the information public.

Cooper's conclusions about aliens were drawn from documents he obtained from other military intelligent officers.

If interested, read his book "Behold A Pale Horse." He was murdered in 2001.

I think I may have to. Conspiracy theorists are always interesting to read. Especially if they have info or know about certain things.

Interested to know if this guy is still alive.

[skatalite]

I think I may have to.  Conspiracy theorists are always interesting to read.  Especially if they have info or know about certain things.

Interested to know if this guy is still alive.

Cooper was killed in 2001.

[oldspice_007]

Cooper was killed in 2001.

Yea so maybe he knew something....

[skatalite]

Yea so maybe he knew something....

He knew a lot of things.

Shortly after he began hosting lectures, going on the radio and reproducing the documents he had, Cooper was ran off a cliff by a government vehicle. He lost either one of his legs due to the accident. Cooper wrote he remembered the men visiting him in the hospital and said next time they would take more than his legs.

Cooper then began being harassed by government agents who wanted to talk to him about tax fraud. He always answered the door with a shotgun and a copy of the Constitution. The men regularly came to his house but never could prove they were with the IRS or wanted to talk to him about taxes.

During one visit, one of the men told Cooper they knew when and where his child went to school, what his wife's schedule was, what kind of car she drives, what routes she takes to where and so on. Cooper packed up his wife and child and moved them to China. He stayed in America and continues work on his works and radio show.

Cooper then gained more nation-wide attention for his detailed worked on the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995. Rush Limbaugh called Cooper the "most dangerous radio host in America." Then Cooper's findings turned out to be true.

It was shortly after Sept. 11, 2001 that Cooper was killled during a raid of his home by Apache County Sherrif Department police officers. The officers posed as civilians and got Cooper out of the house, then some drew their weapons and attempted to arrest him. He ran back toward his house and was shot six times.

[snowblink]

So when i was thinking i thought that if there was aliens at area-51 or anywere that bush or the goverment could let them go and they could help us fight the war.Because if they helped us then they could whoop some terrrorist but.

Afterward they could cover it up with something like:
"Pay no attention to that guy with four arms and two heads in the chameleon body armor"

[oldspice_007]

It was shortly after Sept. 11, 2001 that Cooper was killled during a raid of his home by Apache County Sherrif Department police officers. The officers posed as civilians and got Cooper out of the house, then some drew their weapons and attempted to arrest him. He ran back toward his house and was shot six times.

What was the raid for?
Or was it intentional trying to set him up/kill him.

[ffman]

A great man, and one of my heroes, William Cooper, came up with these two ideas:

•Aliens exist and are in contact with the government for reasons as-of-yet unknown to us
•The alien threat is fabricated by the government for a later use

Now, Cooper was a conspiracy theorist. The thing that separates him from other theorists is he used to be a Naval Intelligence Officer. When he first began his career in the Navy, he was on a cruiser cleaning the deck and saw a UFO fly out of the ocean, then return a minute later and fly back into it. He was questioned on what he saw at the next port stop. He decided to say he saw nothing because the two others who said they saw things came out of the Admiral's office white as ghosts.

He quickly climbed the ranks and while at the pinnacle of his career saw a document titled MAJESTY12, in which it confirms 12 individuals control the U.S. government, something many people call the "Shadow Government."

In any case, he spent a couple years while in the Navy researching it, making connections and gathering information. He then left the Navy and began making the information public.

Cooper's conclusions about aliens were drawn from documents he obtained from other military intelligent officers.

If interested, read his book "Behold A Pale Horse." He was murdered in 2001.

Interesting.

[Marino63]

I've always been of the opinion, at least since I was capable of rationally considering such things, that tehre are aliens "out there".

My astronomy professor in college and I had a discussion on it one night (over a beer or three- he was one of my favorite teachers for obvious reasons- namely, that being he was buying). He said that, mathematically, it was almost a certainty that life of some kind existed outside our solar system- and he wasn't fully prepared to exclude the possibility that life of some sort existed within our solar system too.

His math went something like this: in the Milky Way (one galaxy of about average size and age), there are something like 100 billion stars. Scientists are pretty sure that, while not all stars are the "right kind" to support a solar system having life, probably 1-3% are....meaning 10 to 30 MILLION of the "right type". So maybe of that 10 million, 1%- or 100,000 support life of some sort. of that 100,000, maybe 1%- or 1000- support "higher" life forms (meaning more complicated than bacteria).

Then he went on to say that there were probably billions of galaxys, so you have to take that 1% and mutiply it by billions of galaxys.

I think it rather presumptious and arrogant of us humans to think that we are totally alone in the universe. true, we might be radically different from any life "out there" but that doesn't necessarily mean that we are "top dog on the food chain"- we almost certainly aren't.

Now I'm not sure that aliens, if they existed, would voluntarily help us fight against anyone. After all, if they're capable of travelling the vast distances necessary for interstellar flight within a timeframe comprehendable by humans, we're about as significant to them as ants are to us humans. Why not jut let us kill each other off and take the spoils?

I'll suggest a pretty dang good series of books on the subject: "Worldwar" by Harry Turtledove. Turtledove is the master of Alternative History/Counterfactualism (well, him and Bill Clinton I guess) and has written a ton of books with the overall theme "What If?". In the "Worldwar" series, he theroizes what might have happened had Aliens arrived at Earth during World War 2 (he's also done some really outstanding Civil War alt-history books too).

[skatalite]

What was the raid for?
Or was it intentional trying to set him up/kill him.

It was done for "taxes."

His math went something like this: in the Milky Way (one galaxy of about average size and age), there are something like 100 billion stars. Scientists are pretty sure that, while not all stars are the "right kind" to support a solar system having life, probably 1-3% are....

But how do they figure that without having visited those stars and systems they might support?

[cardsnstuffny]

Usually those tax frauds commit suicide by shooting themselves in the head about 4 times.

From what I've read, the Area 51 ship provided alot of computer technology, but since the aliens were killed (or committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head with a death-ray 4 times), scientists had to try to figure out what all the gadgets were for without damaging them. They still (supposedly) can't figure out the steering, where the alien put his hand (or whatever) on the panel and it read his (or her or IT) thoughts to control the ship.

On a related note, Chemtrails - those white lines of chemicals in the skies from airplanes - lay out the lines, and the lines dissipate, but linger enough to make the sky white instead of blue. The sun still shines through enough to see your shadow, but if you look up, the sky looks all hazy. I think that they're laying out a projection screen, so that they (you know, THEY) can shoot images of flying saucers, etc. into the sky so it looks like we're under attack. We'll actually be hit by satellite weapons, and the earth will have to unite to fight the Space Terrorists. The color code alert will be modified to show Purple for Alien Attack by the way. Then we'll all join together into a New World Order and the rest is in Revelations.

Obviously, I have wwwwaaaayyyy too much time on my hands.

[mvpujols#5]

H ow could a wierd topic like this turn so interesting?