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[kooljazz1966]

Only a nutburger would subscribe to this!: ( Courtesy USA Today)


Government corruption, Iraq and terrorism were the three most important issues to poll respondents. They said Democrats would do a better job on all three. The party had a 21-point advantage on handling corruption and a 17-point advantage on Iraq. A longstanding GOP advantage on terrorism vanished; Democrats had a 5-point edge. In other indicators:

• 57% of registered voters say their own representative should be re-elected, the lowest since just before the 1994 Republican House sweep.

• 56% said it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq while 40% said it was not — the biggest split in a year.

• Voters gave Democrats a 54%-28% advantage over Republicans concerning which party would handle gasoline prices better despite the recent drop in prices.

Stop the madness..only a flaming idiot from both parties would fall for that crap in red. Libs again take the American people for moroons!! (someone please tell me when did our political parties start contolling gas prices of big oil worldwide )

[Sheesh]

They Republican party started a long time ago. One just need to look at Mr. Bush and his family's traditional ties not only oil, but the Saudi Royal family. And, more recently, the kinds of legislation produced by this Republican congress.

I believe the American people understand the Republican policies regarding big oil and the energy sector as a whole. Not only do they remember that this Republican Congress gave big oil BILLIONS of dollars in tax breaks in the face of record oil revenues, but many also remember how the Bush Energy Task Force was staffed - wholly with big energy companies including Enron and Ken Lay - and the products of their work attempting to write law hidden from the public. Thankfully, the Energy Task Foce recommendations that were introduced by the President (via the Republican congress) failed.

Also, many traditional Republican people in Montana, Wyoming, Utah and North Dakota are sick and tired of their rangelands being destroyed for natural gas and coal. Many of these kinds of people, particularly those in the Powder River Basin, Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota, have ownership to the surface rights on their properties but not the subsurface mineral and gas rights. Because of the push by the Bush Interior Department through rule making changes, and with the complicity of the Republican Congress in not providing oversight of the tax revenues AND environmental degredation, the republican ranching communities in these states are really up in arms. This is partly the reason why you are seeing and will continue to see a shift in voting from the Republican to Democratic party in these states (except LDS controlled Utah) - most recently and most notably Montana.

Lastly, it is no secret where the Republicans stand on environmental issues, particularly greenhouse emissions and global warming. Their policies - or lack thereof - regarding pulling out of Kyoto, CART standards for vehicles, the development of alternative energy sources and, most notably, for NOT EVEN SWEARING IN OIL EXECUTIVES DURING ONE OF THEIR FEW OVERSIGHT HEARINGS are remembered by the public.

Again - the American people understand who is the party of the Corporatocracy - the Republican Party.

[Marino63]

kool-

Forgive me for repeating myself (assuming that I have said this before here) but I'd urge people to categorically reject all polls except the only one that counts: direct elections.

Remember the exit polls in the 2004 Presidential election? The ones that showed Kerry taking Virginia by like 25%?

I know- let's just say "intimately"- that polls are pathetically easy to manipulate so that they will give whatever answer the person or group commissioning the poll wants.

In the case of the poll that you cite kool, you need to examine the numbers a bit more closely and see the machinations that netted the result the Left is trumpeting. Most people aren't going to take the time to dig a little deeper to see how the poll was conducted- they just take the headlines as being the whole story and most of the time that just ain't the truth.

If you go to the website where all the statistical "fine print" is written, you can see some of the tactics by which the results seem to serve those who benefit most from such results- namely Democrats.

Look at the time of day and day of the week that the poll was taken. it is a proven fact that polls taken during the week tend to reflect results favorable to Democrats (presumably because Republican would-be respondants are working during that time) and polls taken over the weekend tend to give more balanced results.

Look to see if the poll questions were asked of adults, registered voters or likely voters. Frankly, only polls taken of likely voters is at all meaningful because, of those three groups, only they are more than 50% likely to actually go out and cast a vote....and likely voters tend to be Republican (or at least Conservative) because history shows the Right turns out a higher percentage of their voters election after election.

Look at the breakdown of demographic groups questioned. Often polls "oversample"- meaning they query certain groups more than others. In a fair poll, you'd ask a given question of 100 people and 33 would be Democrat, 33 Republican and 34 Independent (statistically an insignificant oversample). In the example of a CNN/USA Today poll taken just after the Foley scandal broke, they questioned >>16%<< more Democrats than they did Republicans! Ya think that might have had any bearing on the result- which was extremely favorable to the Dems?

Look at the way the questions are phrased. A question using a perjorative word in the right place can sawy the answers dramatically.

Lastly, examine the answers in the poll carefully. Often the answers totally contradict themselves. While recent polls show that voters would prefer Democrats to control Congress by varying margins over Republicans, polls also consistenly show that voters think their own representatives in Congress are doing a good job. Since Republicans hold majorities in both Houses of Congress, does it not statistically stand to reason that voters think their own Republican representatives are doing a better job than their Democrat challengers?

For the record: such shenanigans are completely bipartisan. Both major partys engage in poll manipulation so the only intellectually honest position to take is to reject ALL polling results, save the direct elections, regardless of whether the results are ones I agree with or not.