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Official STL Cardinals Thread!, 2009 NL Central Champs!!
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Nov 14 2008, 09:18 AM
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Let the FA season begin. I'm going to do a little prediction on what I think the birds will do. It will no doubt be horribly wrong and skewed by my unapologetic love for the team but here we go anyway: FA signings:Orlandon Hudson 2B (4 years, 42 million) Brian Fuentes LHRP/Closer (2 years, 24 million w/ 3rd year team option) Arthur Rhodes LHRP (2 years, 15 million) Felipe Lopez 2B/SS (2 years, 16 million w/3rd year team option) Trades:Ryan Ludwick LF, Allen Craig 3B, Mitchell Boggs SP to Atlanta for Yunel Escobar SS, PTBNL. I suspect Fuentes will go for more, but a guy can dream... That won't be the actual trade obviously but I believe a deal with the main guts of Ludwick and Escobar could happen. Can't wait to watch what the team does (or doesn't do) this offseason!
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MVPujols |
Nov 19 2008, 11:06 AM
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Not a whole lot of buzz surrounding the Cards right now. It does appear that they have expressed interest in Will Ohman (LHRP) and Arthur Rhodes (LHRP). Would be nice to snag both of those guys and re-sign Russ Springer and call it a wrap on the bullpen. However, with the abundance of closers available this year, I believe there is an outside chance they could pick up a good reliever with some closing experience on the cheap. This much I know: Take a look at the list of Type A free agents (Furcal, Fuentes, Hudson, etc... etc...) and throw those guys out the window. They will all be offered arbitration from their respective teams and once the players decline, the new team they sign with will have to send draft picks to their old team as compensation. The Cardinals will not be parting with that first round pick I would suspect. With that being said, here is my new projection for the opening day lineup: Skip Schumaker RF Rick Ankiel CF Albert Pujols 1B Ryan Ludwick LF Troy Glaus 3B Edgar Renteria SS* Yadier Molina C Adam Wainwright P Felipe Lopez 2B * Renteria is a Type A free agent, however Detroit is unlikely to offer him arbitration because of the risk that he might accept. If Detroit wanted him back they'd have picked up the option. **This projection is subject to change at any point
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MVPujols |
Nov 20 2008, 10:19 AM
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Well it looks as though the Cardinals have signed veterean reliever Trever Miller to a 2-year contract. Trever Miller No specifics on the $ yet as the deal is still pending physical. Millers overall #'s weren't very impressive this past year with the Rays: I.P: 43.1 W/L: 2-0 4.15 era but his splits look like this: vs. Left BAA: .209 K: 30 vs. Right BAA: .286 K: 14 So you can see why the Cards liked him, he will be primarily used against tough left-handed hitters. I will reserve judgement on the signing until I see the contract information set in stone, but I think it was a necessary signing.
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Dec 2 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(houkk @ Dec 2 2008, 12:03 PM) The Cardinals are another team looking to build their system for future growth. The move doesn't surprise me, especially considering the economy. Ever since the Haren trade they are clutching on to their prospects for dear life. They have become hoarders for the most part. They have done a nice job of re-stocking the farm system and have 4 or 5 legit prospects, but we must remember that this team is not the Athletics, Marlins, or Rays. This is a team that operates with a payroll north of $100 million but more importantly a ballclub that sells out consistently and enjoys a cross-country following. I am all for developing from within (Jocketty saw the farm system only as tradebait) but they are now visiting the other end of the spectrum and only trade when it is absolutely necessary (Rolen/Glaus, Anthony Reyes). And economically we are not talking about a guy like Dunn or Burrell who, if they accept arb, could stand to make $15-17 million a year. In this economy it is understandable for a team to fear that scenario. With Looper and Springer, we are talking somewhere around $10 million combined for a solid SP and a frontline reliever. That is not a huge investment by any means. Once again, I will reserve judgement until they have made their moves but will remain puzzled until so.
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Dec 2 2008, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(MVPujols @ Dec 2 2008, 02:32 PM) Ever since the Haren trade they are clutching on to their prospects for dear life. They have become hoarders for the most part. They have done a nice job of re-stocking the farm system and have 4 or 5 legit prospects, but we must remember that this team is not the Athletics, Marlins, or Rays. This is a team that operates with a payroll north of $100 million but more importantly a ballclub that sells out consistently and enjoys a cross-country following. I am all for developing from within (Jocketty saw the farm system only as tradebait) but they are now visiting the other end of the spectrum and only trade when it is absolutely necessary (Rolen/Glaus, Anthony Reyes). And economically we are not talking about a guy like Dunn or Burrell who, if they accept arb, could stand to make $15-17 million a year. In this economy it is understandable for a team to fear that scenario. With Looper and Springer, we are talking somewhere around $10 million combined for a solid SP and a frontline reliever. That is not a huge investment by any means. Once again, I will reserve judgement until they have made their moves but will remain puzzled until so. Hey, I understand the Astros are considering trading Valverde and Wigginton because they might get a couple of extra million in arbitration each. McLane wants to keep the payroll down to $100 M, so the Cardinals are not alone in making odd off season moves that are budget (allegedly) related.
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Dec 2 2008, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(MVPujols @ Dec 2 2008, 02:55 PM) Oh for sure, there are crazy things going on all over. There are numerous blog posts floating about that are trying to understand what is actually going on here as there were alot of shocking arbitration declines. One theory, that I particularly liked being I am a conspiracy theorist, was that there is collusion going on between the owners to drive FA prices back down. It makes sense that they can use the economy as a valid excuse. Sort of a take back the power type deal However the Yankees and the Sabathia offer aren't helping that argument much While others have jumped on the free agent band wagon from time to time, the Yankees are the ones most guilty for using it as their personal team development system to fill their immediate needs and try to build championships. While free agency is certainly better than the one team for life system that used to be in place (any player who went through that will tell you that), it has created a lop sided free agent market. The ones who ultimately pay for that are the fans, with higher ticket costs, parking, new stadiums, ect. If you want to blame anyone or any team for that, point your finger toward George Steinbrenner (and I've always liked the guy) and the Yankee's and the way they've used the free agency market, for good or bad, since the beginning of free agency.
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