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Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 08:48 PM

It's true, I of all people am stepping away from this great hobby. First I will say, this is not easy for me to even say and I still have to follow through with it. My love for this hobby is still as strong as ever, I know this process is going to hurt. I started collecting long ago when an uncle of mine owned a card shop in my local town. I have been involved in this hobby for the majority of my life, so actually going through with this is like losing a part of myself. I have never been in this hobby as a financial investment. It's always been done as another way to enjoy a sport and players I enjoy.

So you're probably asking why, why would he be leaving something he still loves and enjoyes so much? That answer can be a bit complicated or very simple, depending on how you look at it. For the past year or so I've have this thought in the back of my mind; "These cards don't matter in the bigger picture of life" and the question, "Do I value these cards more than I do the things much more important?"

At one point, I asked my wife "Do you see my card collecting as a bad thing?" and she said "No, I know you enjoy it and I see nothing wrong with it" Hearing that from here suppressed some of my feelings many months ago. Knowing that I enjoy it so much and knowing how much a part of my life it is, I continued.

Eventually, those thoughts crept back into my mind, almost to a point of conviction. Then came a clear confirmation this past Friday... I was listening to an interview between David Platt and Katie Davis (I'll explain who they are in a minute), by the end of it, the only thought I had was "I have to sell my collection, period."

If you don't know, I am a Christian, I admittedly haven't always been the best example of that throughout my time here but that is where my belief resides. With that in mind, over the past couple years, I, like many non-Christians as well, have grown very skeptical and uncomfortable with the "American Church". Now, all that is for another discussion... However, it was because of those feelings that I really began to seek out truth and tried to understand what the biblical Gospel really is (I'm still learning). In my quest, the more I learned, the more I felt it needed to change on my life. What good is it for me to learn and better understand things and not live a life that reflects that understanding?

So what does that have to do with card collecting? I see nothing inherently wrong with being involved in this hobby, not one bit. No part of me feels like card collecting is a "sin", don't think that's what I'm getting at here. With me, heres my issue... I have let this hobby get to such a place in my life where I value it more so than I do much more important things, even God. When something gets to that point in a Christians life, it's an idol, and that can't be. Another part of this is about Jesus' teachings on living a "simple" life and having a heart for giving. As I began to understand that more, I realized that all I'm doing is accumulating stuff, that's all it is, stuff. I finally realized that I struggle between how much I valued this hobby in my life, compared to how much I valued God. That is why I have to get out and why I have such a strong conviction to do so.

If you're a fellow believer in Christ, I don't know how this hits you. I am not saying you're wrong or doing anything against God for being involved in this hobby. If it's in a place in your life where you have a healthy control over it and it doesn't out-value God in your life, I see nothing wrong with it. What I will say is that, if you were asked to give this or anything for that matter, up for the sake of your faith, could you? If we have the same reaction as the "rich man" did when Jesus told him to sell all he had and then come follow him and we struggle with making that choice...then we know there's a problem. And that's where I am. I said it at the beginning of the post, walking away from this hobby is going to be painful. However, I know once I walk through this, It's going to be worth it when I come out on the other side.

Could I come back to this hobby one day? I can't answer that at this moment.

I told you earlier, I'd explain who these two people are... David Platt is the pastor of Brook Hills Church in Birmingham, AL and Katie Davis is a 23-24 year old woman from Nashville, TN who now lives in Uganda running an organization called Amazima. Platt is a man who has set out to turn the "American Church" upside down, or rather, right side up. I admire what God is doing through him and his life. Katie Davis has gone against the cultural norm, her parents desires and followed the instructions she felt God placed on her life. It's a truly amazing story and she is doing great things in the country of Uganda.

For this, I am not selling my collection as a means to gain the monetary value from it. The majority of what I bring in is going to be donated directly to Katie's organization, Amazima.

If you're interested in what really ignited such a change in my life, here is the full 54min interview between Platt and Davis (I find it worth the time):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmWW_qL9Io

If you're not inclined to watch that, here is a short (3min) promo on Amazima and what they do:
http://youtu.be/jGyYsA62CxY

If you'd like any "teachings" relating to anything I've been talking about, let me know and I'll pass those along.

Lastly, my entire Photobucket is for sale. Every last card, so check it out and let me know what you need prices on.

PS. I don't own the Matt Ryan 1/1 anymore and all Bears stuff could be going to my dad.

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Gforce083TS/

Posted by: sasports Mar 3 2012, 09:01 PM

First, I am sorry to hear that you are leaving the hobby. But I understand.

That being said:

If you have anything numbered 616/xxxx i would be interested in them.

Posted by: RGBII Mar 3 2012, 09:10 PM

While you and I have had our scraps, know this . . .

I loathe hearing stories of folks getting out of this hobby.
Yours is even more distressing.

I can not, and will not, criticize your decision, nor your
motivations (although that'd be an easy target for a
Heathen like me).

Just remember, the part that the hobby played in your
life and the fact that your decision is, indeed, reversible.

No more preachin' (not my bag o' tricks). Live well with
your epiphany and I'll be the first to welcome you back
if you decide that this wasn't a good call.

Your collections and posts are an everlasting monument
to your commitment and lust for the hobby. Be proud,
you have done well.

I stated earlier, no more preachin', so I'll quit now.

Contemplate Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: mjda Mar 3 2012, 09:25 PM

I must say that I'm absolutely, positively, 100% SHOCKED to hear this! That said, I know you cannot argue with faith. As much as it stuns me to see you leaving the hobby, I'm glad you're leaving for the reason you're leaving.

We will be here if you ever change your mind.

Now, if you have any '10 Classics or Cowboys I might be interested. Just shoot me a list of what you have, along with prices.

Posted by: aceecards Mar 3 2012, 09:37 PM

Well Gary, the lord works in mysterious ways!

Good luck

Posted by: captkirk42 Mar 3 2012, 09:38 PM

Sad to see you leave the hobby, but I can understand with the explanation given. It goes hand in hand with "Do not seek out materialistic wealth but spiritual wealth.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 09:39 PM

QUOTE(sasports @ Mar 3 2012, 09:01 PM)
First,  I am sorry to hear that you are leaving the hobby.  But I understand. 

That being said:

If you have anything numbered 616/xxxx i would be interested in them.
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Thanks. I'll try to look out for any 616's.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(RGBII @ Mar 3 2012, 09:10 PM)
While you and I have had our scraps, know this . . .

I loathe hearing stories of folks getting out of this hobby.
Yours is even more distressing.

I can not, and will not, criticize your decision, nor your
motivations (although that'd be an easy target for a
Heathen like me).

Just remember, the part that the hobby played in your
life and the fact that your decision is, indeed, reversible.

No more preachin' (not my bag o' tricks). Live well with
your epiphany and I'll be the first to welcome you back
if you decide that this wasn't a good call.

Your collections and posts are an everlasting monument
to your commitment and lust for the hobby. Be proud,
you have done well.

I stated earlier, no more preachin', so  I'll quit now.

Contemplate Hard!,
RGBII

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Thanks Richard. We all got some heathen in us... Lord knows I do! I respect your side on this and thank you for being kind towards me. I've put a lot of time and effort...and money into what I have built up. Every time I pull up my photobucket to give people the link, it's tough to think that I'm really doing this. But in the end, I just have to remember, it's just stuff, unnecessary stuff in the grand scheme of life. The opportunity to give to a respectable cause where I know these dollars will be spent towards the benefit of orphans and poverty stricken families means so much more than these cards sitting in my closet.

Guess I'll stop preachin' too. We've got enough "preachers" in this world ohmy.gif

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 09:45 PM

QUOTE(mjda @ Mar 3 2012, 09:25 PM)
I must say that I'm absolutely, positively, 100% SHOCKED to hear this! That said, I know you cannot argue with faith. As much as it stuns me to see you leaving the hobby, I'm glad you're leaving for the reason you're leaving.

We will be here if you ever change your mind.

Now, if you have any '10 Classics or Cowboys I might be interested. Just shoot me a list of what you have, along with prices.
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Me too! Thank you for your comments though. I'm pretty sure I don't have in 2010 Classics but I'll see what I have in the way of Cowboys.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 09:45 PM

QUOTE(aceecards @ Mar 3 2012, 09:37 PM)
Well Gary, the lord works in mysterious ways!

Good luck
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Thanks Steve.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 09:46 PM

QUOTE(captkirk42 @ Mar 3 2012, 09:38 PM)
Sad to see you leave the hobby, but I can understand with the explanation given. It goes hand in hand with "Do not seek out materialistic wealth but spiritual wealth.
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Truth, our treasure is in the Kingdom not the earth.

Posted by: redwing40 Mar 3 2012, 09:48 PM

I might be new here Gary, but understand your action to give up the hobby, wishing you the best!

Posted by: snkpoct137 Mar 3 2012, 10:40 PM

Gary, I know how you feel in many ways. I too have taken a long break from the hobby and thought many of the same things u have. It was just taking to much of my time and money and for what? I cant even answer that to this day but i know once i left the hobby i have gotten much more of a "life". I hope no one takes that personally, but just as a teenager and young adult i realized their are some more important things TO ME. I still have many cards as well that i havent really decided what to do with yet but i am sure one day i will get an idea. Good luck in your ventures and as i like to think, it always works out in the end smile.gif

with that being said, if you have any stafford or calvin autographs i would love to buy them off you for the cause. Lmk a price. Thank you!

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 3 2012, 11:20 PM

QUOTE(snkpoct137 @ Mar 3 2012, 10:40 PM)
Gary, I know how you feel in many ways. I too have taken a long break from the hobby and thought many of the same things u have. It was just taking to much of my time and money and for what? I cant even answer that to this day but i know once i left the hobby i have gotten much more of a "life". I hope no one takes that personally, but just as a teenager and young adult i realized their are some more important things TO ME. I still have many cards as well that i havent really decided what to do with yet but i am sure one day i will get an idea. Good luck in your ventures and as i like to think, it always works out in the end smile.gif

with that being said, if you have any stafford or calvin autographs i would love to buy them off you for the cause. Lmk a price. Thank you!
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Thank you for the affirmation. I can't say that someone who is involved in something they love doesn't have a life though. Obviously, you feel differently about your life but that can't be assumed for others. But i do very ,much appreciate your comments.
Anyways, I do have a Stafford Elite TOTC Rookie Auto as well as a Johnson UD Trilogy Rookie Auto. I also have some patches, jsys and rookies of each if interested. If not, no worries.

Posted by: snkpoct137 Mar 3 2012, 11:24 PM

QUOTE(Gforce083 @ Mar 4 2012, 12:20 AM)
Thank you for the affirmation. I can't say that someone who is involved in something they love doesn't have a life though. Obviously, you feel differently about your life but that can't be assumed for others. But i do very ,much appreciate your comments.
Anyways, I do have a Stafford Elite TOTC Rookie Auto as well as a Johnson UD Trilogy Rookie Auto. I also have some patches, jsys and rookies of each if interested. If not, no worries.
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Its not that i didnt have a life, its just that i let the hobby consume mine and i wasnt able to seperate the two. More power to the people that can but i just wasnt able to.

How much do you want for the 2 autos? I already have plenty of the other stuff lol

Posted by: urbanmonk Mar 4 2012, 12:27 AM

Sounds like you have put a lot of thought into it Gary, which is the way to go instead of the "I'm leaving the hobby" and "I'm back" and I'm leaving the hobby" gambit. Everything in life is about priorities, and sometimes things you "enjoy" can get out of hand. Things change all the time, so one has to try and adjust at times (some things easier than others), and nobody but you knows what is "right" for you at this time. I've learned to never say never though, as that can come back on you sometimes, but then that is how we learn (which is a constant process). Too much of anything (even good things) can be a problem sometimes, so just don't go extreme at first until you know that's what is meant to be for you. But like Richard said I'll get off the soapbox, as what is right for one isn't the same for anyone else. As in one of the Eastern philosophy's, enlightenment is like the highest peak, many paths to the top and the path for me won't work for everyone (and may not for me either), so everyone has to find their own way there, as the folks down the mountain telling everyone where to go (or where they are going wrong) sometimes never get to the top or further up the mountain even as they get consumed with giving directions, and they can also divert folks from the path they need to be on which is counterproductive to the scheme of things. wink.gif

Best of luck Gary, sounds like you have thought it thru and it is the way you need to go smile.gif, which is the right approach (look before you leap) . And if you decide to come back sometime down the road, many of us loonies will probably still be here laugh.gif

Dwight

Posted by: bajmurray Mar 4 2012, 01:12 AM

Sorry to see you leave.

However, each of us is blessed with Free Will.

You owe no one an explanation for exercising it!

God Bless you and your family!

Posted by: northicehero99 Mar 4 2012, 08:19 AM

Gary, sorry to hear this and glad for you. I think differently then you that if what you truly seek or beleive in is already in your heart, no building, book, etc. can change that or take it away. Yes I think I can and should do more, and sometimes I need reminded of that, especially when driving. laugh.gif

I don't know anything about David Platt, but I do know there have been some who preach, who talk a good game, until the true game is revealed. As I said I don't know this MAN, but an old saying goes "don't lay all your eggs in one basket". I guess what I am saying is if your motivation is for god, then make it be about god, not about a man who speaks about him.

I hope this goes as you intend and have nothing but good wishes for you in regards to this change in your life.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 4 2012, 09:18 AM

QUOTE(northicehero99 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:19 AM)
Gary, sorry to hear this and glad for you.  I think differently then you that if what you truly seek or beleive in is already in your heart, no building, book, etc. can change that or take it away. Yes I think I can and should do more, and sometimes I need reminded of that, especially when driving.  laugh.gif

I don't know anything about David Platt, but I do know there have been some who preach, who talk a good game, until the true game is revealed.  As I said I don't know this MAN, but an old saying goes "don't lay all your eggs in one basket".  I guess what I am saying is if your motivation is for god, then make it be about god, not about a man who speaks about him. 

I hope this goes as you intend and have nothing but good wishes for you in regards to this change in your life.
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Oh yeah, trust me, this has very little to do with David Platt the man. While I am excited about what he is teaching,i do know that what's most important is following what God is pressing on my own heart. I don't blindly follow or believe any preacher or teacher and always value doing my own research.

Posted by: ffman Mar 4 2012, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(Gforce083 @ Mar 3 2012, 07:48 PM)
It's true, I of all people am stepping away from this great hobby. First I will say, this is not easy for me to even say and I still have to follow through with it. My love for this hobby is still as strong as ever, I know this process is going to hurt. I started collecting long ago when an uncle of mine owned a card shop in my local town. I have been involved in this hobby for the majority of my life, so actually going through with this is like losing a part of myself. I have never been in this hobby as a financial investment. It's always been done as another way to enjoy a sport and players I enjoy.

So you're probably asking why, why would he be leaving something he still loves and enjoyes so much? That answer can be a bit complicated or very simple, depending on how you look at it. For the past year or so I've have this thought in the back of my mind; "These cards don't matter in the bigger picture of life" and the question, "Do I value these cards more than I do the things much more important?"

At one point, I asked my wife "Do you see my card collecting as a bad thing?" and she said "No, I know you enjoy it and I see nothing wrong with it" Hearing  that from here suppressed some of my feelings many months ago. Knowing that I enjoy it so much and knowing how much a part of my life it is, I continued.

Eventually, those thoughts crept back into my mind, almost to a point of conviction. Then came a clear confirmation this past Friday... I was listening to an interview between David Platt and Katie Davis (I'll explain who they are in a minute), by the end of it, the only thought I had was "I have to sell my collection, period."

If you don't know, I am a Christian, I admittedly haven't always been the best example of that throughout my time here but that is where my belief resides. With that in mind, over the past couple years, I, like many non-Christians as well, have grown very skeptical and uncomfortable with the "American Church". Now, all that is for another discussion... However, it was because of those feelings that I really began to seek out truth and tried to understand what the biblical Gospel really is (I'm still learning). In my quest, the more I learned, the more I felt it needed to change on my life. What good is it for me to learn and better understand things and not live a life that reflects that understanding?

So what does that have to do with card collecting? I see nothing inherently wrong with being involved in this hobby, not one bit. No part of me feels like card collecting is a "sin", don't think that's what I'm getting at here. With me, heres my issue... I have let this hobby get to such a place in my life where I value it more so than I do much more important things, even God. When something gets to that point in a Christians life, it's an idol, and that can't be. Another part of this is about Jesus' teachings on living a "simple" life and having a heart for giving. As I began to understand that more, I realized that all I'm doing is accumulating stuff, that's all it is, stuff. I finally realized that I struggle between how much I valued this hobby in my life, compared to how much I valued God. That is why I have to get out and why I have such a strong conviction to do so.

If you're a fellow believer in Christ, I don't know how this hits you. I am not saying you're wrong or doing anything against God for being involved in this hobby. If it's in a place in your life where you have a healthy control over it and it doesn't out-value God in your life, I see nothing wrong with it. What I will say is that, if you were asked to give this or anything for that matter, up for the sake of your faith, could you? If we have the same reaction as the "rich man" did when Jesus told him to sell all he had and then come follow him and we struggle with making that choice...then we know there's a problem. And that's where I am. I said it at the beginning of the post, walking away from this hobby is going to be painful. However, I know once I walk through this, It's going to be worth it when I come out on the other side.

Could I come back to this hobby one day? I can't answer that at this moment.

I told you earlier, I'd explain who these two people are... David Platt is the pastor of Brook Hills Church in Birmingham, AL and Katie Davis is a 23-24 year old woman from Nashville, TN who now lives in Uganda running an organization called Amazima. Platt is a man who has set out to turn the "American Church" upside down, or rather, right side up. I admire what God is doing through him and his life. Katie Davis has gone against the cultural norm, her parents desires and followed the instructions she felt God placed on her life. It's a truly amazing story and she is doing great things in the country of Uganda.

For this, I am not selling my collection as a means to gain the monetary value from it. The majority of what I bring in is going to be donated directly to Katie's organization, Amazima.

If you're interested in what really ignited such a change in my life, here is the full 54min interview between Platt and Davis (I find it worth the time):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZmWW_qL9Io

If you're not inclined to watch that, here is a short (3min) promo on Amazima and what they do:
http://youtu.be/jGyYsA62CxY

If you'd like any "teachings" relating to anything I've been talking about, let me know and I'll pass those along.

Lastly, my entire Photobucket is for sale. Every last card, so check it out and let me know what you need prices on.

PS. I don't own the Matt Ryan 1/1 anymore and all Bears stuff could be going to my dad.

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Gforce083TS/
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Good luck in your other ventures Gary. I highlighted a certain sentence in your post as I feel it is very important. When cards overshadow anything of importance in your life (be it God or even your family), it may be time to not necessarily leave the hobby, but at the very least to rethink your priorities. Sometimes this hobby can take control. At times I wish I could make an easy break with the hobby, although I do enjoy it.

As a fellow Christian I can completely see where you are coming from.


Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 4 2012, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(ffman @ Mar 4 2012, 11:50 AM)
Good luck in your other ventures Gary.  I highlighted a certain sentence in your post as I feel it is very important.  When cards overshadow anything of importance in your life (be it God or even your family), it may be time to not necessarily leave the hobby, but at the very least to rethink your priorities.  Sometimes this hobby can take control.  At times I wish I could make an easy break with the hobby, although I do enjoy it.

As a fellow Christian I can completely see where you are coming from.
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Definitely. I wish it could be just a break for me, but my conviction was to sell and GIVE. My collection is the one thing in my house that holds some value, yet it totally unnecessary to this life. I say that, fully loving all that this hobby was and is for me, I still love it. But, it's the one thing I'm holding on to so dearly that I'm struggling to choose it or my faith. There-in-lies the problem and the reason why it must go. As I go through stuff people are asking me about, I keep thinking "oh I can keep just this one or just these few" but that defeats the whole purpose... hanging onto to any of it proves nothing and creates no change in my perspective.


Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 4 2012, 11:38 PM

I'll be completely honest, I just had someone ask about 3 cards I thought I'd never let leave my possession, they're 3 cards I know I'll never see again should I find a way back into the hobby. This is painful, truly painful.

I'm not looking to live in regret though, and the bigger regret would clearly be, if I don't go through with this, what did I miss out on? That's something still to be seen as this process has just begun. I plan to keep everyone updated and this goes along.

I thank each and everyone of you who have commented and shared your thoughts. It means a lot to know that my love for the hobby has been felt here.

Posted by: osufan2383 Mar 5 2012, 12:54 AM

good luck man. If I had my job still I would see what i could buy unfortunately money is a little tight in terms of buying singles.

Posted by: chopinalex Mar 5 2012, 11:15 PM

Proud of you Gary..i'm leaning toward dumping my stuff because I am just tired of the card hobby. I am rekindling my other hobby of comic books.

Posted by: Cool_Hand_Flash Mar 5 2012, 11:29 PM

I'm sorry to see you leave Gary. But I'm honored that you're giving me first stab at your Ultimate stuff.. That's very cool of you.

You'll be missed my friend sad.gif

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 5 2012, 11:38 PM

QUOTE(Cool_Hand_Flash @ Mar 5 2012, 11:29 PM)
I'm sorry to see you leave Gary. But I'm honored that you're giving me first stab at your Ultimate stuff.. That's very cool of you.

You'll be missed my friend sad.gif
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Mr. Ultimate could not be denied!

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 5 2012, 11:51 PM

I've updated my photo bucket and put everything (except for some lingering J Camps) in the For Trade/For Sale Album. Further organized by Autos, Patches & GU, Inserts and Rookies.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 6 2012, 11:47 AM

During this journey, I want to be the best steward I can be throughout the process. Meaning, it is my ultimate goal to best help my fellow true collectors add pieces they can truly enjoy and accept into their personal collections. To me, that goes hand in hand with also being a good steward of the money I'm bringing in, by allowing a majority of it to be willfully given to a much greater cause.

This isn't about me in the least.

Posted by: pwolantern Mar 6 2012, 01:36 PM

I am sorry to see you leave, but I do wish you the best of luck on your new path!

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 6 2012, 02:33 PM

QUOTE(pwolantern @ Mar 6 2012, 01:36 PM)
I am sorry to see you leave, but I do wish you the best of luck on your new path!
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Thanks man!

To all, I almost forgot. But I did have a dream last night where I bought a blaster and was busting it on the drive home (I was the passenger)... I pulled a redemption dry.gif and woke up before I figured out who it was.

Posted by: Gadsden86 Mar 6 2012, 04:50 PM

Its sad to see another person leave the hobby. I myself am a Christian i go to a Mens group every sunday and have learned alot and still learning alot. I do feel on the other hand as long as something such as collecting cards doesn't take over your life and you still spend time w/ Your wife/ husband/ Girlfriend/ boyfriend..... it is ok to have. I also understand where you are coming from with the idol thing. I have though a few times do i have too much involved in my hobby. Then i think no. You need something in your life other than the everyday montomy to help you take your mid off things.
I wish you all the best in your decision and hope things turn out for what you want now. Good luck.

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 6 2012, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Gadsden86 @ Mar 6 2012, 04:50 PM)
Its sad to see another person leave the hobby. I myself am a Christian i go to a Mens group every sunday and have learned alot and still learning alot. I do feel on the other hand as long as something such as collecting cards doesn't take over your life and you still spend time  w/ Your wife/ husband/ Girlfriend/ boyfriend..... it is ok to have. I also understand where you are coming from with the idol thing. I have though a few times do i have too much involved in my hobby. Then i think no. You need something in your life other than the everyday montomy to help you take your mid off things.
I wish you all the best in your decision and hope things turn out for what you want now. Good luck.
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Thanks for the comments and thoughts. Every Christian, no matter if you accepted it yesterday or 80 years ago, we're all still learning. This is something that goes beyond church or a study group attendance, it's a transformation of lifestyle. This whole thing goes far beyond cards "taking over" my, what's to be considered worldly life. Meaning, my wife and family where never put on the back burner for this hobby. Maybe once, when we first moved to Nashville with no jobs and I made about $30 worth in shipping trades, when we really didn't have the $30. That was the end of that though. Anyways, for me personally, as I said in original post, it came down to the fact that card collecting became an idol in my life. Meaning, I often valued this hobby higher than God. Sounds crazy to type that or even say it, but it's my reality. It's not about how "involved" you are or how much you put into it, it's about where you value this OR ANYTHING ELSE in your life versus the value you place on God and your faith.

As a brother, I encourage you, only because you've admitted to the thought of this also being an idol in your life, to really pursue and reflect on those thoughts. That's where it all started for me over a year ago, it was always there in the back of my mind. Yet, I'd continue to find ways to justify what I was doing and make myself fell like it was ok. We have to realize, if we try hard enough, we'll always find a way to justify anything that we want to. Think about the dangers in that. I'm not telling you that this hobby is an idol in your life, I can not attest to that. The fact that you would bring it up though, is what concerns me. Make sure, 100% sure, that you know where your treasures lay and that you understand, the material things of this earth will pass and mean absolutely nothing. As a Christian, if you struggle with the thought of giving your collection up, should you feel the conviction to, check yourself and where you've placed this in your life. Sure, this hobby as with any hobby is a means to break the "monotony" in ones life. However, you've really got to think about your statement there, are you using this hobby as a replacement for what God could and should be doing in your life instead?

With all that said, to everyone else, I mean no ill will on this hobby. I think it's great, it's fun, it's not a sin, it's don't think it's wrong to be involved in it. This decision of mine is a personal call and conviction on my life.

Posted by: nlr4434 Mar 6 2012, 06:57 PM

G sorry to see you leave but I admire you for being so strong in your beliefs

Posted by: chopinalex Mar 6 2012, 09:14 PM

I love you Gary!

Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 9 2012, 10:56 AM

QUOTE(chopinalex @ Mar 6 2012, 09:14 PM)
I love you Gary!
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Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 9 2012, 05:54 PM

Meant to post this the other day....

Taking my first steps:
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Posted by: Gforce083 Mar 26 2012, 10:43 AM

I'm what, on my 24th day into this journey so far? It's not getting any easier... especially if you've noticed that I'm trying to host a group break. One, because I love the community and interaction it allows me to have with members here and two, because I want to bust some wax! With that said, should the break fill and happen, I'll be selling anything I "hit" and donating it to Amazima.

The past week in a half have probably been the hardest... the first package was tough, but I had my priorities and perspective straight (in my situation). However, I haven't been doing so well with keeping my perspective on this whole thing in recent days. Every time I'm going through my cards to find something to market or pull out ones people have asked about, I think "Man, why am I doing this...I'll never see this card again!"

A lot of you are probably thinking, "Well, stop selling it off man, you don't have to do this!" I want to agree with those of you who feel that way, I really do... but that's the trouble with it. Finding ways to justify keeping my collection based on my own fleshy feelings or other hobbyist defeats the whole purpose and belittles what I feel obligated to do.

Today, I'm trying to get my focus and perspective back in order. As much as I love my collection and collecting in general, it's not worth what's at stake. The money I'll be able to give away from doing this will have a far greater impact than keeping a pile of cardboard, fabric, and ink my closet. Along with the pure joy that comes from generously giving, what's more important here is that I keep my obedience to God. There is simply something in that, that goes far and beyond anything else on this earth. The biblical examples of what obedience brings can be found many times over, from Moses to Job, and David to Paul... Their joy is found in the Lord and nothing else, no amount of money, or material thing could hold a light to God and I've got to remember that.

This morning was truly a reminder of these things when I packaged and shipped off two of my most rarest pieces this morning. A 1/10 Montana/Rice/Craig Classics Triple Patch and my 1/1 J Campbell Rookie Auto...
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Posted by: Gforce083 Apr 5 2012, 10:21 AM

The past few mail outs haven't been much easier!

Said goodbye to these babies...

Thought I'd never let this Williams go!
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Jason Campbells Rookie PREVIEW Ticket 1/15... ouch
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Then this...
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Posted by: msw_sportscards Apr 9 2012, 11:41 PM

Gary,

Good luck with your journey. God's will be done.

Posted by: Gforce083 Apr 10 2012, 10:10 PM

One of the toughest lots to send out the door...
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Posted by: Gforce083 Apr 13 2012, 11:17 AM

Another BIG and difficult move today! My two Curtis Martin jumbo patches! One being a Patriots Logo Patch...something you do not find for sale or even see that often! I did get a pretty penny for both, so that helps a little.

This still isn't any easier. In one sense, I am now in a routine of selling and shipping, selling and shipping, that's make me a little numb to it all... but on the other hand, I know the time, effort, money and passion I've put into my collection and that's what makes this still so difficult to do.

Again, I've clearly laid out the answer to WHY I am doing this, so I don't need to say it all over again. This process has been eye opening for me though. And still, I don't knock this hobby or knock anyone passionately pursuing this hobby...if you love it, AWESOME! I know what that love feels like, because it's still in me. However, I have begun to see a paradigm shift in how I look at it. I think we all can agree, it's just cardboard, fabric and ink...throw in some acetate and hardwood floor from time to time...and in the big picture of life, relationships, humanitarianism, sickness, loss of loved ones, God, and several others, it's virtually not important.

I'm constantly being reminded of the greater good to come of this. How my reasoning behind this is much better than cardboard sitting in my closet. Honestly, I'm excited for the day to come where I sell my very last card and write the check to Amazima Ministries. That will be a good day!

But for today, I will miss these:
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Posted by: batman1641 Apr 15 2012, 03:04 PM

Sorry to hear you are leaving. But I understand where you are coming from. It's sad to hear that a great collector is leaving but at the same time it's great to hear the plan. Because of that reason I believe you are a much richer person(and not just becase you are selling your cards). Good luck to everything you do.

Posted by: redwing40 Apr 15 2012, 04:46 PM

Sometimes I think about what you are saying, as my family goes to church every Sunday, I donate to the church, but even if I sold all my cards, my happyness wouldn't change for the love of anything, I have already done this, gave it up! For what's right, God work's in many way's, hears everything, see's everything my friend!

Deep inside there is a awsome person in you, whom God love's, one does not need to prove any more!

I'm gonna get the boot for this one, so be it! SORRY!

Posted by: Gforce083 Apr 15 2012, 05:13 PM

QUOTE(redwing40 @ Apr 15 2012, 04:46 PM)
Sometimes I think about what you are saying, as my family goes to church every Sunday, I donate to the church, but even if I sold all my cards, my happyness wouldn't change for the love of anything, I have already done this, gave it up! For what's right, God work's in many way's, hears everything, see's everything my friend!

Deep inside there is a awsome person in you, whom God love's, one does not need to prove any more!

I'm gonna get the boot for this one, so be it! SORRY!
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So my awesomeness is deeply suppressed because I feel I am obeying what the Lord has told me to do? On the contrary.

I've never said, nor have ever thought through this process that if someone else here is a "Christian", they should be doing what I am doing. That's what I feel you're saying in around about way. This is personal, this is about me and my relationship with God. More so, how I let my card collection gain a higher value in my life than my relationship with God. That my friend is what this is about. If you take personal issue with what I am doing in regards to your faith in Christ, that's something you need to deal with between you and God.

I'm not doing this to prove anything to anyone. I'm doing this out of obedience to the conviction placed on my heart and mind. This isn't a quest to make me feel as if "God loves me", that's a truth that is already known, even before I began to follow through with this process. I simply must continue doing this, as I also continue to put God back in the right place in my life.

Posted by: Gforce083 May 18 2012, 02:46 PM

Been a while since I've done an update.

I'm still going through with this. I've been able to do a lot of sales on another trading card site, a long with what I'm still doing here. Has it gotten any easier? Perhaps a little. I say that because I've gotten into a grove of just moving things. If there's a day (which is rare) that I don't have at least one shipment to make, it feels strange. It's almost as if selling has become my new hobby so to speak.

Don't get me wrong, it's not easy to drop some of these cards off at the PO, no matter what I got from them. Those of you who are connected to me on Facebook probably know that. I find myself taking "trendy" vintage photos of cards I've become partial too and posting them on my timeline. That's when it hurts, right after that, I have to package them up and ship 'em out.

Also, I feel like I'm sitting on this mound of money (in poor man's terms) and I occasionally think about all the sweet, high end cards I could buy with it. Or I think about the cases of NT I could buy.... how fun would that be?! But again, this isn't about what I could do with the money. It's all about what this money will be used for once it reaches Amazima. As I said before, writing that check and sending it away will be what makes all this worthwhile!


And by the way... I'm down to only 8 autographes left! (Not including Jason Campbell or A&M stuff) This is insane!

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