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Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 12 2009, 02:41 PM

The TCC Collector Zone Transaction Manager generated the following agreement:

patstigs3712 receives:

2008 tom brady dystenies auto patch
jack morris auto
a couple low end tigers gu or brady gu!

dusty1218 receives:

$240 paypal

Additional notes:

will pay tonight

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 12 2009, 06:04 PM

agreed

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 12 2009, 07:39 PM

payment sent

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 13 2009, 06:17 AM

Did you get the payment?

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 13 2009, 01:07 PM

received payment. cards go out today

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 13 2009, 02:43 PM

awesome! Thanks

Posted by: urbanmonk Oct 13 2009, 04:30 PM

This transaction has been updated to display as a sale.

When creating transactions, please take an extra moment to make sure you're setting the Transaction type radio button to the proper choice.

Posted by: urbanmonk Oct 13 2009, 04:30 PM

This transaction has been updated to properly display the buyer and seller.

When creating sales transactions, please take an extra moment to make sure you're setting the You are radio button to the proper choice of either Seller (default) or Buyer.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 13 2009, 05:53 PM

srry, thanks

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 14 2009, 08:59 PM

Leaving for vacation tomorrow and thought I would update this with sig number so there is no updates required:

2308 2180 0000 0740 9600

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 16 2009, 02:55 PM

Got he cards! But the brady auto gu is in bad contion! fuzzy corners, looks like a scratch on the top left! Let me know what you want to do!

Posted by: urbanmonk Oct 16 2009, 03:19 PM

An e-mail and PM reminder to update the status of this transaction were just sent to dusty1218.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 16 2009, 03:23 PM

thanks! Im worried! this Is what it looks like!

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Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 16 2009, 03:28 PM

I had the card pictured in my buckett and it did have the corner wear, but it could be seen in the picture and she never asked me if there was any damage to the card. As far as any other damage, it must have happened after it left my house. I dont see anything other than the slight corner wear.

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 16 2009, 03:35 PM

actually, here is the scan of the brady...I had it on my lap top...The corner wear is visible in the scan. I was not asked by her about condition and it is clearly shown in the scan. As far as a scratch in the card, well I dont see it nor was there one when sent.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 16 2009, 04:41 PM

On the top left of the pic I got it has a line in the top left! which is bothering me!

Posted by: northicehero99 Oct 16 2009, 05:10 PM

In looking at the picture in your bucket Dustin it appears that the area in question with the scratch is not shown in your scan. It appears that your scan is showing less of the top of the card based on the distance between the letters and the edge in both scans provided by each member.

How do both members wish to proceed regarding this card? Is the card going to be returned, partial refund, etc. Please work together either in this topic or via pm to come up with a solution that works best for both parties, then please post that solution here. Thanks.

Posted by: RGBII Oct 16 2009, 05:22 PM

When the condition of the card is in dispute,
please do your best to scan/photograph the
highest quality/resolution that is possible.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 16 2009, 05:37 PM

thanks!

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 01:31 PM

he does not want to give a full refund! help me and him decide what to do!

Posted by: urbanmonk Oct 17 2009, 02:04 PM

The two of you need to try and work something out as it is both of your decisions not ours. So try and figuire out what is fair on this between the two of you, or both return their end and we can fail transaction.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 06:58 PM

dusty 1218 please reply me emails!

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 17 2009, 08:19 PM

The card I sent only had corner wear and that is it. I am not refunding the full amount for this transaction if this card was damaged by her once it came. I am not about to lose $200+ on this card for her own damage. I offered to give her $40 back and she keep all the cards and she doesnt want to do that. I told her I would give her $200 back once I receive the Brady back and verify that the card is still resellable. If the card is deemed not sellable then it will be mailed back and we will have to figure something out. I am not taking the full hit on this payment as that card had no lines of any kind and I will not take a damaged card back that did not have that kind of damage when I sent it. I have never had a problem on here for card condition and never ever mis represent a card. I have never had a problem and will not start now, but I will not take a monetary loss when it is not my fault, that is for certain.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 08:45 PM

I'm not taking a loss of $20 either! I bought the card and got it in bad conditon! It's not my fault! The only resin I took it out of it's case was because I saw the damage! Also my family shares a paypal so I'm a man!

Posted by: RGBII Oct 17 2009, 08:57 PM

Gentlemen,

A compromise needs to be reached here.

Please negotiate a settlement between
yourselves.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 08:59 PM

Ill do r best!

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 09:00 PM

We will do r best!

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 17 2009, 09:08 PM

This is very simple. The card was not sent damaged with any sort of lines of any kind. I check all my cards before buying and have never had a problem in the past. If there is or was anything wrong other than normal corner wear or minor chipping it would have been stated prior to selling the card. I have never had a problem and my scan shows the normal wear a card gets and is clearly visible. Only a slight portion of the top part of the card is not shown in the scan. I will not take a $240 loss on this card plain and simple. I have offered several solutions and he continues to say he wants a full refund which I will not do if the damage to the card is worse than when it was sent (minor corner wear and chipping on edges). I am continually pming him and he continues to post in this thread, which is why I am doing the same. A solution is trying to be reached now, but again I restate that I will not lose $240 over this transaction, so im not sure how this is to be worked out.

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 17 2009, 09:19 PM

Were working it out!

Posted by: aceecards Oct 18 2009, 08:38 AM

file a claim thru paypal!

Really Dusty if you want to be a bigtime card dealer you have to honor returns!

Your scan from your laptop is not the whole card or so it appears by the space between the cards edge and the letters! I can only hope you didnt crop this to Not display the damage!

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 18 2009, 05:04 PM

Sure file a claim through paypal and I will fight it the entire way if the card is not returned in the same condition it left in. The scan was not cropped at all. Look at all my scans and you will see the exact same thing. I dont appreciate the tone you are taking with me towards this transaction as I am doing everything I can to work it out, but if the damaged happend once they received it, I am not sure what I am supposed to do. You would take a $240 hit?? I dont know many people that would take on the full amount when it wasnt their fault...That is why I said to send me the card back and once I get it and deem it to be sellable, I will then refund the money. There isnt much else I can do here. I even offered to refund $40 of the total and he could keep all the cards. Whatever you think is your opinion Steve, but it was not warranted. Thanks for your help tho!

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 18 2009, 06:20 PM

im taking the 40

Posted by: RGBII Oct 18 2009, 06:52 PM

We do appreciate you gentlemen
working this out.

While no one cares to see a sales/trade
agreement wind up in a dispute, it is
nonetheless refreshing to see an adult,
reasoned and fair reconciliation.

Thank you both.

Please update the agreement with the details
of the resolution and both members accession.

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 18 2009, 07:07 PM

No thank you for helping us out!

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 19 2009, 02:45 PM

did not get paypal

Posted by: dusty1218 Oct 19 2009, 04:34 PM

Just flew home from Florida. Paypal is sent as of now. Transaction complete

Posted by: RGBII Oct 19 2009, 05:09 PM

An e-mail and PM reminder to update the status of this transaction were just sent to patstigs3712.

Can you acknowledge receipt of refund?

Collect Hard!,
RGBII

Posted by: patstigs3712 Oct 19 2009, 07:35 PM

Got the paypal! Complete!