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> Is professional wrestling a sport?, No smack-downs allowed

Do you consider professional wrestling to be a sport?
 
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post Jul 30 2005, 02:05 AM
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To me it's entertainment. I haven't watched it since the 70's. Ya that means I'm old. laugh.gif I agree with the other members. It's scripted and yes I do think the they are athletes.

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QUOTE(KHarmon @ Jul 30 2005, 10:41 AM)
There's no way that pro wrestling could be considered a sport...primarily for all the reasons mentioned above.  I do think that these guys are exceptional in the area's of strength, a few are even pretty good when it comes to conditioning...but they got into pro wrestling either because they were no good at other sports, or washed out of other professional sports.  The Rock was an up and coming talent on the football field before a major knee injury side lined him for good.  How he was able to get his knee in good enough shape to do the things in the ring that he's done, I don't know. 

I have a friend of mine that used to work for a small police department along IH-35 in Central Texas.  He stopped a rental car with none other than Stone Cold Steve Austin who was driving from the DFW International Air Port to his home town of Victoria.  He wrote Stone Cold a written warning for his speed and cut him loose thinking that it was pretty cool to have his autograph on a warning ticket, but Stone Cold followed him to a convenience store in town and autographed a T-shirt and a cap and gave them to him.  I was PO'ed that he didn't call me over there when he had him stopped...everything I've heard about Stone Cold is that he's a pretty cool guy outside of the ring.
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QUOTE(jrlenox @ Apr 20 2005, 03:15 AM)
I quickly knew it was fake .. but the characters plots were enjoyable.
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QUOTE(H.I.M. @ Aug 11 2005, 07:19 AM)
Ask Owen Hart if its fake.
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Alright guys, huge wrestling fan here. I wish I had time to give a full explanation right now but I gotta get to work in half an hour so wet your mouths on this:

Sport is...

1a) Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
1b) A particular form of this activity.
2) An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3) An active pastime; recreation.

Scripted or not, by definition, wrestling is a sport.

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QUOTE(gglwebster @ Oct 8 2005, 09:22 PM)
Scripted or not, by definition, wrestling is a sport. 

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I agree....I need more convincint....at what point is the wrestling matches governed by a set of rules. Throwing someone out of the ring and onto the floor and then beating them with a chair is something I think you might get flagged for in other sports....but in wrestling it's just part of the act. Like I said before....I agree that these guys are ATHLETES....but I don't see the sport in a scripted "game".


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QUOTE(KHarmon @ Oct 9 2005, 02:00 AM)
I agree....I need more convincint....at what point is the wrestling matches governed by a set of rules.  Throwing someone out of the ring and onto the floor and then beating them with a chair is something I think you might get flagged for in other sports....but in wrestling it's just part of the act.  Like I said before....I agree that these guys are ATHLETES....but I don't see the sport in a scripted "game".
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Wrestling matches are governed by a set of rules during every match, even matches with no rules. Refs/umps make mistakes in unscripted sports also, when they're NOT supposed to make mistakes, does that make them worse officiators?

If football players could take chairs onto the field with them, don't you think they would? Hockey players fight all the time, players charge the mound, football players do some of the dirtiest things under piles.... It is what it is. They just don't use chairs etc...

As for being scripted; what about all the games Pete Rose bet on, should those be counted as games? Whether he "scripted" some games to line his pockets or not, they were still games, no? Should every game that contains a player that turns up hot for illegal or performance enhancing drugs not count as a game? Every HoFer?

Wrestling is scripted. It's fake. It's a phony. But if everybody knows that already, is it still fake and scripted? Thinking about wrestling and not knowing that it's fake is like hearing the names Bonds, Conseco, McGwire, Giambi and not thinking about good old fashioned steroids... Pure or not theyr'e all athletes, competing, doing what they know they're supposed to do. If you're supposed to win, you better win. If you're supposed to lose, you better lose. I don't see the sport in hunting defenseless animals but it's done for sport. Hunters are commonly known as outdoor sportsmen. I have a more of an issue with that than with wrestling.

No sport is pure. Faults range from illegal hits, to contract holdouts. Fighting with camera men/beer throwers in the seats to fights in the pits. Arguing/fighting with officials to allowing murderers and drug dealers to compete. A decade of tarnished numbers due to steroids to athletes dying far too early as a result of the drugs and poundings they take in their respective sport, and even during their respective contests in some cases.

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Wrestling matches are governed by a set of rules during every match, even matches with no rules. Refs/umps make mistakes in unscripted sports also, when they're NOT supposed to make mistakes, does that make them worse officiators?

Matches are governed by a set of rules...even when there are no rules????? blink.gif blink.gif

Refs/umps make mistakes in unscripted sports also, when they're NOT supposed to make mistakes, does that make them worse officiators?

Makes them human....the difference is.....scripted and unscripted. You're entitled to make mistakes....I'm entitled to make mistakes....and with them being ref/umps they can and do make mistakes. Doesn't make them worse officials...but it does effect their ability to officiate in the post season.

If football players could take chairs onto the field with them, don't you think they would? Hockey players fight all the time, players charge the mound, football players do some of the dirtiest things under piles.... It is what it is. They just don't use chairs etc...

Football players probably would take chairs...if the rules allowed it. Hockey players fight, baseball players charge the mound, and football players do some of the dirtiest things under the piles. The respective leagues have rules set forth to punish players who do these things including fines, ejections, and suspensions. Not to mention the fact that players do these things in the heat of the moment and act out of emotion.....not because they have a script telling them that is what they need to do.


Wrestling is scripted. It's fake. It's a phony. But if everybody knows that already, is it still fake and scripted?[COLOR=red]

In a word....YES!!!! It is still fake and scripted.

[COLOR=red]Thinking about wrestling and not knowing that it's fake is like hearing the names Bonds, Conseco, McGwire, Giambi and not thinking about good old fashioned steroids.


And hearing these names makes me think of congressional hearings addressing the problems that these players have had. I wonder how many of the pro wrestlers have these same problems in and out of the ring that we don't hear about?


No sport is pure. Faults range from illegal hits, to contract holdouts. Fighting with camera men/beer throwers in the seats to fights in the pits.

You're right and you're wrong here. The SPORT (baseball, football, hockey, basketball) are pure....it's the people playing the games that make the unpure. Illegal hits, contract holdouts, and fighting with camera men and beer throwers are acts of emotion....not parts of a rehearsed script.

A lot of what you're doing here is comparing apples to oranges.


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I have one thing to say. Wrestling is not a sport! What do you think the E stands for in WWE? Entertainment, thats what. There is no competition? Its scripted. They know who will be the winner, unless some unforseen injury.

Its not a sport, it a show. Has it all the so called drama of their storylines the injuries especially the ones they fake.

Where is it a sport? OK when the have bikini contests that might be a sport as long as its the fans voting not the company deciding the winner.


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I consider wrestling a form of entertainment that requires a good amount of athletic skill and precision -- male soap opera.


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For the guys that thinks its a sport. Doesn't there have to be some kinda of competition? Why do you think its a sport because the guys can lift weights? Just want your views? Cause I don't see it. Just because guys are athletic don't make them athletes.


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They are athletes plain and simple look at them, true dont see alot of competion they are more performers, now that i think about it, its not a "True" sport but its fun to watch and many Wrestlers on the High School/College Level do the WWE after wards, its not like they have anything else to do bedies the Olympics wink.gif

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