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> What do you NOT like about this hobby?

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post Jan 21 2008, 06:42 PM
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In the other thread I created today (What do you like about this hobby?), Daze_fan posted quite a few things his do not like about the hobby. And, many of them were valid complaints. While many things make this hobby wonderful, many negatives do exist which take away from the experience.

So, here's a topic for members to express what they do not enjoy about this hobby. TCC: What do you NOT enjoy about this hobby?

For me:

1. Over-use of the 1/1 label. For example, I can't stand eBay items, trading topics, etc that label a card a '1/1' when it is not.

2. Impatient traders. This includes collectors who post a trade/sell topic, only to 'bump' it 15 minutes later asking 'NO WANTS THIS??!!?', etc.

3. Collectors who do not appreciate another person's generosity.

4. Redemptions. If a card company cannot deliver a card, it should not promise it to collectors.





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Overproduction of what was once rare: used to be a treat to get an autographed card because they were so rare. Now they are everywhere.

Graded NEW cards: people who grade spanking brand new cards and receiving a Gem Mint grade on it and thinking it's worth many times more than what is booked because of the grade. Puh-LEEZE!!! Today's cards are manufactured AS PERFECT already! I dare anyone to crack that graded card out of its case and mix it up with the exact same cards that were just opened from packs and see if they can pull the exact one that was already graded.

"Semistar and used-to-be-somebody-from-before-but-has-no-more-potential for trade - but only in exchange for today's hottest superstar autograph": who are you kidding? If you want the guys on the Hot List that EVERYBODY and their mother wants, then you'd better come stronger than that.

Investment advice on pieces of cardboard: think about it, it's just cardboard.

"Come strong": they usually request that of weak cards they are trying to dump. Okay, semi-weak since a lot of times it is a superstar depicted on the card, albeit a much lower-end card of the upper echelon.

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QUOTE(19th Century Indiana Jones @ Jan 21 2008, 08:56 PM)
Today's cards are manufactured AS PERFECT already!
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But many aren't pulled in perfect condition. Numerous sets are dinged out of the pack (2007 Topps football for me, Turkey Red, etc) plus centering can be a large problem when grading 'new' cards.


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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 10:01 PM)
But many aren't pulled in perfect condition.  Numerous sets are dinged out of the pack (2007 Topps football for me, Turkey Red, etc) plus centering can be a large problem when grading 'new' cards.
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Most are still pulled out of packs with the same care as handling plutomium. Almost none are flipped or put in bicycle spokes today. There is no longer attrition.


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Most are still pulled out of packs with the same care as handling plutomium. Almost none are flipped or put in bicycle spokes today. There is no longer attrition.
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QUOTE(ffman @ Jan 21 2008, 09:21 PM)
Touche.
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QUOTE(mvpujols#5 @ Jan 21 2008, 09:23 PM)
Huh?  huh.gif
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he said you have a nice touche.
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ffman   What do you NOT like about this hobby?   Jan 21 2008, 06:42 PM
chopinalex   I dont like buying a 100 dollar box and getting lo...   Jan 21 2008, 06:47 PM
mvpujols#5   5. Redemptions 4.1/1s 3.People Who want more tha...   Jan 21 2008, 06:50 PM
BaseballCollector   Way too expensive and usually (ex. Upper Deck) not...   Jan 21 2008, 06:52 PM
STLcardinals888   ~collectors that don't take the time to try an...   Jan 21 2008, 06:52 PM
ffman   Oh, a high-end peeve: - High-end products that co...   Jan 21 2008, 06:53 PM
STLcardinals888   Like Black <_< :P   Jan 21 2008, 06:58 PM
ffman   That was one of the sets I thought of. No offen...   Jan 21 2008, 07:00 PM
chopinalex   Welcome to the world of baseball whozits!...   Jan 21 2008, 07:01 PM
chopinalex   This is my grip of baseball and why i probably wil...   Jan 21 2008, 06:56 PM
jaderock   I totally agree, but in Baseball is all about the...   Jan 21 2008, 11:24 PM
skatalite   The death of the masterpiece. Lack of low-end pro...   Jan 21 2008, 07:02 PM
mvpujols#5   Thanks Richard For Pointing that out. Because t...   Jan 21 2008, 07:04 PM
Daze_fan   You HAD to? Did someone force you to buy anythin...   Jan 21 2008, 10:26 PM
tex333   Unless he got a giftcard..   Jan 21 2008, 10:30 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   Or that thing they call MOJO.   Jan 21 2008, 10:33 PM
vicsten   Respectfully Jeff, I want to ask you why you so...   Jan 21 2008, 10:48 PM
mvpujols#5   Thank You Vickie ;) Also, all i was Saying is ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:05 PM
Daze_fan   No offence take n to your thoughts.. he plainly ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:08 PM
mvpujols#5   :rolleyes: What ever You Should be happy that ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:20 PM
mvpujols#5   :huh: :blink: Im 12 Years old ;)   Jan 21 2008, 10:58 PM
Daze_fan   Just to post me thought from the other thread here...   Jan 21 2008, 07:11 PM
RGBII   [b]Donruss, Leaf & Playoff not having their li...   Jan 21 2008, 07:11 PM
ffman   Oh yeah....that's a good one.   Jan 21 2008, 07:14 PM
chopinalex   ya thats true..if donruss still was doing baseball...   Jan 21 2008, 07:15 PM
BoxBreaker44   [color=red][b]Xfractor Lines[/color] :angry: ...   Jan 21 2008, 07:20 PM
jaderock   Dislike ...sensitive people... :lol: But seriou...   Jan 21 2008, 11:30 PM
marcus42   1- Redemptions...I don't really need to go in ...   Jan 21 2008, 08:39 PM
ffman   Touche.   Jan 21 2008, 10:21 PM
mvpujols#5   Huh? :huh:   Jan 21 2008, 10:23 PM
ffman   Basically - good argument to my post.   Jan 21 2008, 10:25 PM
crazygood   he said you have a nice touche.   Jan 21 2008, 10:33 PM
tex333   Upper Deck.   Jan 21 2008, 10:09 PM
mvpujols#5   :lol: AMEN To That :clapping: :thumbsup: :thum...   Jan 21 2008, 10:22 PM
BagwellFan25   1. Prices are too high. 2. Some shop owners are j...   Jan 21 2008, 10:27 PM
RGBII   [font=Times][b]INVESTORS[/font] [font=Arial][b]Vil...   Jan 21 2008, 10:37 PM
vicsten   - The kids, for many years now, are being squeezed...   Jan 21 2008, 10:37 PM
beanschat   I'm on the flip side of mvpujols... People wh...   Jan 21 2008, 10:39 PM
aceecards   people who collect for the wrong reasons! Its...   Jan 21 2008, 11:02 PM
RGBII   [b]There ya' go. Well put!! Collect H...   Jan 21 2008, 11:05 PM
aceecards   sorry, that what my boy RGB said earlier. I guess...   Jan 21 2008, 11:03 PM
aka spider   What i Don't like about this hobby is The Hot...   Jan 21 2008, 11:06 PM
marcus42   It doesn't bother me so much when people say t...   Jan 21 2008, 11:08 PM
RGBII   [b]Agreed. I hold myself to a much higher standar...   Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM
BoxBreaker44   Yea I have prospects for investment pourposes th...   Jan 22 2008, 12:05 AM
jaderock   Not sure way...but what I dislike about the hob...   Jan 21 2008, 11:14 PM
jaderock   Also dislike...LESS competition which had made ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM
vicsten   I sure understand where you're coming from Jef...   Jan 21 2008, 11:15 PM
RGBII   [b]I'll not fade out, Darlin', I'll g...   Jan 21 2008, 11:24 PM
vicsten   I hope I can still be here to raid it with ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:41 PM
Daze_fan   I should rephrase.. "did'nt get anything ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:20 PM
marcus42   ah that reminds me of another...I enjoy bustin pro...   Jan 21 2008, 11:38 PM
Tarasadie17   Wow... a lot of anger in this thread... :huh: ...   Jan 21 2008, 11:41 PM
RGBII   [b]I know this is supposed to be about what I don...   Jan 22 2008, 12:01 AM
chiefsfan101   Overpricing of a product, and then pulling crap.   Jan 22 2008, 12:14 AM
Daze_fan   See above, thats what I'm talking about.   Jan 22 2008, 12:16 AM
RGBII   [b][size=14]They're Trading Cards!! ...   Jan 22 2008, 12:23 AM
mvpujols#5   Thank You! But Seriously, I always thought ...   Jan 22 2008, 12:25 AM
marcus42   exactly...you gotta know what your getting!   Jan 22 2008, 12:33 AM
Daze_fan   I KNOW!!!!.. What I'm trying t...   Jan 22 2008, 01:21 AM
19th Century Indiana Jones   That is why I pretty much stick with the singles....   Jan 22 2008, 06:09 AM
marcus42   i know...i'm agreeing with you on that point...   Jan 22 2008, 01:28 AM
aceecards   "YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT.. BUT...   Jan 22 2008, 08:47 AM
nameant   - High-end only collectors - Exquisite collectors...   Jan 22 2008, 09:26 AM
19th Century Indiana Jones   What's that?   Jan 22 2008, 09:32 AM
Tarasadie17   Collector's with raised rumps... ;)   Jan 22 2008, 09:46 AM
19th Century Indiana Jones   You mean they could pull their wallet out of thei...   Jan 22 2008, 09:51 AM
19th Century Indiana Jones   Not all base is bad. One of my favorites because ...   Jan 22 2008, 10:26 AM
msuwendy   Wow....lots has been said and I'm probably goi...   Jan 22 2008, 10:02 AM
justineustis   Wow. I think this topic has caused quite a stir. I...   Jan 22 2008, 10:02 AM
Lew47   I hate the way glossy cards (Ultra especially) sti...   Jan 22 2008, 10:40 AM
artyman60   overemphisis on the value that beckett has placed ...   Jan 22 2008, 10:46 AM
PBamber16   There are 3 things that annoy me about this hobby....   Jan 22 2008, 11:58 AM
NGWH Sports Cards   Pack Searchers!!~   Jan 22 2008, 12:18 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   The holier-than-thou attitude from other sites (no...   Jan 22 2008, 12:27 PM
snowblink   Collector's who... ...claim they are looking ...   Jan 22 2008, 12:38 PM
urbanmonk   The fact that this thread is longer than the what ...   Jan 22 2008, 01:28 PM
nameant   I was gonna say the same thing. :lol:   Jan 22 2008, 02:24 PM
ffman   The 'what do you enjoy' thread is still up...   Jan 22 2008, 03:24 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   THAT blows chunks.   Jan 22 2008, 09:43 PM
xebulba   this guy http://www.progets.com/simpsons/pics/the%...   Jan 22 2008, 02:14 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   There's at least one of those dealers at ever...   Jan 22 2008, 02:29 PM
bigeric   the things i don't like about the hobby is Pac...   Jan 22 2008, 02:20 PM
jt4pres   Box Prices ;)   Jan 22 2008, 02:20 PM
madman20   I collect to collect....if i pull a card of my fav...   Jan 22 2008, 03:10 PM
dodgerblue38501   These are all interesting responses. As a dealer a...   Jan 22 2008, 03:20 PM
Nene   I hate: -People that have "tradelists" ...   Jan 22 2008, 03:21 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   What's VVHTG? Not a low blow. That kind of ...   Jan 22 2008, 03:36 PM
ffman   "Very, very hard-to-get." "Resid...   Jan 22 2008, 03:41 PM
19th Century Indiana Jones   Ah, here's one..... "What's your fav...   Jan 22 2008, 09:42 PM
kylehess10   What I DON'T like about my hobby: AUTHENTICATO...   Jan 24 2008, 08:04 AM
jaderock   Do you have proof of this ... like a link to an a...   Jan 24 2008, 05:43 PM
kylehess10   I can show a TON of proof....here is just a fe...   Jan 24 2008, 08:51 PM
jaderock   Kyle...is that all you have...gee whiz!!...   Jan 24 2008, 09:55 PM
kylehess10   lol well there's PLENTY more where that cam...   Jan 24 2008, 10:55 PM
kylehess10   Jaderock---I just spent the past 2 hours making a ...   Jan 25 2008, 04:21 AM
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