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> Thoughts on 2011-12 Parkhurst Hockey?

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post Sep 15 2011, 11:16 AM
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Upper Deck is releasing Parkhurst next month and wondering what everyone's opinion is regarding this product?

I have a box on order and think it looks interesting, but I don't like how there are only two hits a box at the $76 price.

Here is the product information:

Release Date: 10/20/11

Each box contains a combination of (2) of the following, including at least (1) Autograph:

- Wire Photo Single Player Autos
- Wire Photo Multi-Player Autos
- Renditions Color Autos
- Renditions Black & White Autos
- Regular card Autos
- Champ's Mini Signatures (SP's too)
- Champ's Mini Signatures, Red Ink variations
- Parkhurst Masterpieces (sketch cards)
- Champ's Mini Fossils & Artifacts cards
- Champ's Mini Parkhurst Back parallels (SP's too)
- Champ's Mini Gold Rainbow parallels (SP's too)

Find (1) Champ's Mini-Card in every pack, highlighted by Cool Fossils & Artifacts cards! Find great signatures too - with regular and red ink versions!

ALL AUTOGRAPHS ARE HARD-SIGNED!

Box Break: (on average)
- Two Great Hits
- Highlighted by 1-2 Signature Cards
- Five (5) Wire Photos cards (1 multi)
- Two-to-Three (2-3) Renditions cards
- Twenty (20) Champ's Mini cards


PRODUCT BREAKDOWN:

Hard-Signed Parkhurst Autographs:
- Regular Card Autograph cards - inserted 1:22
- Wire Photos, Single Player - inserted 1:400
- Wire Photos, Multi-Player - inserted 1:2,600
- Renditions, Color Photos - inserted 1:800
- Renditions, Black & White Photos - inserted 1:4,000
- Champ's Mini-Signatures - inserted: 1:100
- Champ's Mini-Signatures, Red Ink variation - #'d to 15

Parkhurst Hit:
- Parkhurst Masterpieces (sketches) - #'d to 10


Champ's Mini-Cards: (combined to fall 1 per pack!)
- Regular cards - inserted 1:2
- Regular cards SP's - inserted 1:20
- Green Backs - inserted 1:6
- Green Backs SP's - inserted 1:80
- Parkhurst Backs - inserted 1:171
- Parkhurst Backs SP's - inserted 1:2,560
- Fossils & Artifacts cards - inserted 1:1,280

Regular Cards:
- 100 Regular Cards

20 packs per box, 5 cards per pack





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post Sep 15 2011, 11:44 AM
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Looks interesting but yeah for only two hits. Looks like that means UD won't be doing Champs and maybe Masterpieces as putting them in the Parkie.


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QUOTE(urbanmonk @ Sep 15 2011, 11:44 AM)
Looks interesting but yeah for only two hits.  Looks like that means UD won't be doing Champs and maybe Masterpieces as putting them in the Parkie.
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Yeah, I think this is "Champs" since it has all the same features, the minis, the fossils, etc. Just a new variation. I hope it is good, but will have to wait for it to be released.

It would be nice to see them release a Legend type product.



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those wire photo cards look extremely cool!

Champs was just as pricey and only 2 hits per box!


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QUOTE(aceecards @ Sep 15 2011, 08:37 PM)
those wire photo cards look extremely cool!

Champs was just as pricey and only 2 hits per box!
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Yeah, I kinda can't wait to see it live, just wish it was a little cheaper so I could get an extra box.

You are right both Champs were just as pricey, but the 09-10 dropped to $60 while the 08-09 kept it's price and went higher $100+. But they both had more hits, 3 hits in 08-09 and 4 in 09-10 per hobby box. Guess it is like everything else today, pay more to get less. laugh.gif laugh.gif



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Without a sensational rookie crop, lack of big names and their continued arrogance and general disdain for the collector, I don't see UD being around much longer. Next step will be the upper level execs leaving like rats from a sinking ship.
They deserve what they get.



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QUOTE(THUNDER9 @ Sep 16 2011, 08:44 AM)
Without a sensational rookie crop, lack of big names and their continued arrogance and general disdain for the collector, I don't see UD being around much longer. Next step will be the upper level execs leaving like rats from a sinking ship.
They deserve what they get.
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Jeff, I don't think that UD is alone on cornering this market. I am not thrilled with UD or Panini from a hockey perspective, but right now I am liking UD a little more than Panini. Panini missed the chance to win me over. I wanted something different, yet I felt I got the same or less on most products I bought, beyond that I am sitting on redemptions going back almost a year on some products and there were just too many redemptions overall in their products this year (football and hockey). I did not buy as much in UD products as I had previously, but when I did buy new UD products I don't remember getting any redemptions. If I did they were already redeemed.

Sad to say my favorite two products last year were Score and OPC, both were at a nice price point, had enough chase cards to make it fun to build the set, and both were enjoyable to open. I am hoping that this Parkhurst product is similar, but not sure.



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QUOTE(northicehero99 @ Sep 16 2011, 11:27 AM)
Jeff, I don't think that UD is alone on cornering this market.  I am not thrilled with UD or Panini from a hockey perspective, but right now I am liking UD a little more than Panini.  Panini missed the chance to win me over.  I wanted something different, yet I felt I got the same or less on most products I bought, beyond that I am sitting on redemptions going back almost a year on some products and there were just too many redemptions overall in their products this year (football and hockey).  I did not buy as much in UD products as I had previously, but when I did buy new UD products I don't remember getting any redemptions.  If I did they were already redeemed. 

Sad to say my favorite two products last year were Score and OPC, both were at a nice price point, had enough chase cards to make it fun to build the set, and both were enjoyable to open.  I am hoping that this Parkhurst product is similar, but not sure.
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Brian I loved champs and think Im going to really love this potential set!

Do I think UD is in trouble?

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This product released yesterday, can't wait for my box to get here, want to see if it lives up to the hype I have seen elsewhere. There is a sweet black and white of Mario and Gretzky from the 87 Canada Cup game winning goal, auto'ed by Mario, that is my hope for my hit. laugh.gif It is a sweet picture, would have been even sweeter if they would have had both players auto the card.



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