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> Some very difficult news to admit, My loss could be your gain

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post Sep 2 2007, 10:16 AM
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I put a lot of time and $ into building a nice player collection. But it is time to admit, the hunt is over. The player I selected was Domanick Davis (now known as Domanick Williams). He was a back with a great YPC carry who was the undisputed back on the team and got all the glory at the goal line. In other words, he was a work horse and a stud. But he was playing for a team that did not get a great deal of positive press which meant that his cards were fairly reasonable.

But, injuries seem to have ended his career. He hasn't played in a year, and there has been no news of anyone watching him. Over 200 cards, lots of GU and patches, autos. I really had a very nice collection going. What do you think I should do with it? Try and trade it out a piece at a time? Sell the whole lot on ebay? Piece them out on E-Bay? What is your recommendation?

If you are interested in getting any, please let me know that as well.



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post Sep 2 2007, 10:35 AM
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I dont understand...if this was truly a hobby for you whether the guy is playing or not should be unimportant...you collected stuff of his because you liked him....and you have a nice collection....collect someone else, start a (gasp) set....

but by your words it sounds like this was an investment for you which didnt pay off...look at all the money people spent on michael vick cards...with prices in freefall...book values just evaporated literally overnite...

good luck what ever you decide...but i would think it would depend on what you want to do...if the player is of no interest, and if money is what you want sell, sell, sell...or you can trade if you just want to add it as trade bait....

on another note check my set wantlist...looks like you may have some things i can use if you are interested thanks



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post Sep 2 2007, 10:42 AM
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fair enough Richard. What really got me collecting him was he was a keeper on my fantasy team. Was I a fan...absolutely. He helped carry me to the championship game once and the playoffs 2 out of his 3 years. Was it an investment as well? Absolutely. I thought he was extremely undervalued and felt he had the tools to be LT if only he had the blocking. Keeping them has also been a consideration.



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QUOTE(beanschat @ Sep 2 2007, 10:42 AM)
fair enough Richard.  What really got me collecting him was he was a keeper on my fantasy team.  Was I a fan...absolutely.  He helped carry me to the championship game once and the playoffs 2 out of his 3 years.  Was it an investment as well?  Absolutely.  I thought he was extremely undervalued and felt he had the tools to be LT if only he had the blocking.  Keeping them has also been a consideration.
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nothing wrong with that...but for me the cards are a hobby first and investment second...I have lots of sets from the 60's sports and non sports worth much money, but feel todays RC start too high and only a few hold their values...if I decide i dont want something it goes on the trade page...take it you have nothing from my wantlist?



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I have to agree with NEP. This is a hobby. If you want an investment buy gold, silver or stocks. All are much better risks than cardboard. I collect to collect. If I like a set I try to build it as long as the peices are within my pocketbook. Sometimes they are not but I enjoy the chase that is what makes collecting fun. Will DDs cards go up, no and they are probably on the skids now that his career is over. The only people collecting are a few loyal collectors who will continue to collect and like getting a bargain. I would say continue to collect as unloading now will probably garner you only a slightly larger profit than a few years down the road. Might as well continue collecting to collect.



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what cards of him do you have


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brian leonard absolute rpm /849 (SICK ball patch) bv10
kenny irons rpm spectrum/100 (n=orange/black, f=ball, l=white w/ stitching) bv15
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glenn martinez (broncos) contenders rc auto sv5
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sidney rice classics significant signatures gold /100 bv50
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I might have a shot at the BOwman's Best and Prestige if you can tell me who they are...



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got plenty of stocks..and other then the fun of watching the #s go up on a quarterly basis..the cards are alot more fun. Keep in mind...Domanick never would have been in my top 3 of favorite players.

Vikinghawkeye...tons..just about any base you might be interested or rookies..what have you got in mind? I haven't gotten a list of them anywhere as they were always in my PC.



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QUOTE(beanschat @ Sep 2 2007, 12:24 PM)
I might have a shot at the BOwman's Best and Prestige if you can tell me who they are...
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the bowmans best is carson palmer no serial #...the prestige is brandon jacobs, the other two are common RC...do u want to base names too? or just the RC? lmk thanks



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eh..thought for sure I would be able to get the Carson for you, but I don't seem to have an extra....the Prestige I apparently didn't buy alot until 2006



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i know this is just a hobby, and not really an investment to most. However, i have found that is isn't as enjoyable collecting someone who you don't see perform on a regular basis. there is just something exciting about watching you favorite players do what they do, that drives you to want to collect him/her. It would not be very enjoyable for me to collect, let's say, eli manning, if he lost his starting role with the giants, or was benched due to off the field problems. you would, over time, lose interest. for this reason, i have never really put all my stock into one player, rather I divy it up amongst a handfull or two of those individuals i enjoy watching. I think diversity also helps to keep ones interest in the hobby. just thought i would add my two cents.


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excellent points and I agree. What drove me o colelct him was watching him on a weekly basis and thinking that I knew a great opportunity when I saw one. Just like stocks....sometimes it's time to start collecting someone else and knowing it is time to move on.



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Here is just a quick list of some of the stuff I got. I know I have others including a Leaf Limited GU/Auto too and some other stuff.

Autos

2003 Press Pass Authentics
2004 Topps Total Total Signatures
2004 Upper Deck Sweet Spot Signatures
2005 Donruss Classics Significant Signatures #d/75
2005 Gridiron Gear #d/250
2005 Gridiron Gear #d/100
2005 SP Authentics Scripts for Success x2
2005 SPX Superscripts
2005 Throwback Threads Pig Pens #d/150
2005 Zenith

GU’d


2004 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity #d/99
2004 Skybox Limited Edition #d/250
2004 Skybox Limited Edition Legends of the Draft #d/103
2004 Upper Deck UD Game Jersey x4
2005 Donruss Classics Stadium Stars #d/199
2005 Leaf Limited Limited Threads #d/25
2005 Fleer Ultra All Ultra Team
2005 Playoff Absolute Memorabilia #d/150
2006 Donruss Classics Sunday’s Best #d/25 #1, #4 (Patch), #18 (White/Red Patch), #21,
2006 Playoff Prestige Gridiron Heritage Patch #d/50

Inserts/Parallels

2003 Playoff Contenders Rookie Roundups #d/275
2004 Donruss Classics Timeless Tributes #d/100
2004 Playoff Absulute Memorbilia Spectrum#d/100
2005 Donruss Classics Timeless Tributes #d/100
2005 Donruss Classics Timeless Tributes #d/50
2005 Leaf Limited Spotlight #d/100
2005 SP Authentic #d/25
2005 Upper Deck UD Exclusives #d 1/10
2006 Donruss Classics Timeless Tributes #d/25 x2

Notable Base

2003 Bowman x2
2003 Fleer Focus Silver #d/25
2003 Fleer Ultra x2
2003 Leaf Limited #d/750 x2
2003 Leaf Limited Spotlight #d/100
2003 Leaf Limited Gold Spotlight #d/25
2003 Topps All American
2003 Topps Finest x2
2003 Upper Deck x2
2003 Upper Deck Honor Roll x3
2003 Upper Deck MVP X2
2003 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection #d/750
2003 Topps x3
2005 Pristine Uncirculated #d/750 x2



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