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post Jan 30 2007, 11:36 AM
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The TCC Collector Zone Transaction Manager generated the following agreement:

dj_4dig receives:

pujols pack wars bat
ultimate decades oswalt auto

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clark #'d sp authentic
fergie donruss auto
gaylord perry ultimate decades auto

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both sending at the same time with d.c. in bubble mailer. thanks.

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post Jan 30 2007, 11:41 AM
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Confirmed. Will send tomorrow with DC.



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post Jan 31 2007, 09:39 AM
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Sent this morning.

DC# 0306 3030 0002 9085 0616



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post Feb 3 2007, 09:56 AM
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Your DC #?



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post Feb 3 2007, 05:03 PM
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i just pmed dd316 telling him that i couldn't locate the will clark #'d card. i searched each of my boxes for the past few days and couldn't locate it. i know i didn't trade it, but can only assume it's misplaced. i am trying to work things out with him to make up for the will clark that he needed.

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post Feb 8 2007, 04:05 PM
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i am replacing the lost #'d will clark with will clarks that he needs to finish off the trade.

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post Feb 8 2007, 04:12 PM
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I'd really like to know what you're sending in place of the Clark before you do mail, thanks.



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post Feb 8 2007, 11:57 PM
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obviously. i will do my best to get what you need, i'm hoping a gu, but will get you a list from my local shop on saturday/sunday.

thanks and i apologize for this inconvenience.

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post Feb 10 2007, 06:46 PM
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i picked this up from the show and will be sending it with the other cards:
06 sp legendary cuts will clark jersey baseball chronology


that is MORE than fair as the numbered card was less than 3.00 if that.

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post Feb 12 2007, 10:05 AM
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You stated in your other trade thread LINK:
"i pmed dd316 beforehand (as communication is very important to me), and got approval beforehand from dd316 that if i didn't find any #'d cards that he approved, then i would send him a gu even if he already had it."

This is not true, it was never agreed upon that you would send me a Clark GU even if I already had it. That's whay I said I wanted to see know what you were thinking of sending first.

I have saved all of our PM correspondence, and can post it if you like. You did state you'd be getting me a Clark I need, I wanted to make sure I needed it. I just told you that the GU you picked up was fine (even though I don't need it) because I want to get this deal over with, since you're obviously not willing to just send my original cards back (like I've requested, figuring I'd give you the benefit of the doubt).



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post Feb 12 2007, 01:17 PM
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seriously, why the heck are you butting in now? bob mentioned our trade first not me, i just had to clarify. i apologize this had to happen but i have gone out of my way to fulfill this trade.

actually i have the pms that say exactly what i said, either you deleted them or it never went through. i have saved all pm correspondence with you. either way, we've settled this so i'm not going to spend anymore time or energy on this trade. i've gone out of my way to replace a card that is worth less than 3.00 with a card that books at least 8-10 if not more. the gu jersey is much more valuable than a cheap #'d card and you can easily sell the jersey to get more cheap #'d cards if need be. again, this situation is done and to me it's complete until obviously you receive the cards. i will await until you receive the cards which i'm hoping will be by this weekend.

your package was sent today with d.c. so after work i can provide the number if needed.

thanks.

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post Feb 12 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(dj_4dig @ Feb 12 2007, 01:17 PM)
seriously, why the heck are you butting in now? bob mentioned our trade first not me, i just had to clarify. i apologize this had to happen but i have gone out of my way to fulfill this trade.

actually i have the pms that say exactly what i said, either you deleted them or it never went through. i have saved all pm correspondence with you. either way, we've settled this so i'm not going to spend anymore time or energy on this trade. i've gone out of my way to replace a card that is worth less than 3.00 with a card that books at least 8-10 if not more. the gu jersey is much more valuable than a cheap #'d card and you can easily sell the jersey to get more cheap #'d cards if need be. again, this situation is done and to me it's complete until obviously you receive the cards. i will await until you receive the cards which i'm hoping will be by this weekend.

your package was sent today with d.c. so after work i can provide the number if needed.

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I'm sorry, when would be a good time for you that I could butt in on my own transaction?

I'd be really interested in seeing how my pm correspondence compares with yours.

And this is not about book value, don't know why you keep playing that card. But since you insist, the trade we agreed upon was around $7 in your favor (if that #ed Clark books $3, not really sure, but that's probably fair). I was fine with that, seeing as how I was getting a card I really needed, I was willing to forgo some book value for personal value. Now I'm getting a card I don't need, but was willing to accept since it seems you never had any intention of sending my original cards back, like I had mentioned to you multiple times.

Please provide me the DC# after work. Thank you.



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post Feb 12 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(dj_4dig @ Feb 12 2007, 01:17 PM)
seriously, why the heck are you butting in now?
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So, your transaction partner disputing the picture you've painted is now "butting in"? Simply amazing... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dj_4dig @ Feb 12 2007, 01:17 PM)
actually i have the pms that say exactly what i said, either you deleted them or it never went through. i have saved all pm correspondence with you.
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I've also seen the entire PM exchange and your version of the situation doesn't match the facts. wink.gif

QUOTE(dj_4dig @ Feb 12 2007, 01:17 PM)
either way, we've settled this so i'm not going to spend anymore time or energy on this trade. i've gone out of my way to replace a card that is worth less than 3.00 with a card that books at least 8-10 if not more. the gu jersey is much more valuable than a cheap #'d card and you can easily sell the jersey to get more cheap #'d cards if need be. again, this situation is done and to me it's complete until obviously you receive the cards.
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And this completely sums up the reasons why you're being questioned in 2 of your transactions at this point. Any logical person would read this and realize that you believe transactions are done when and how you say they are done. Sorry, but things don't work that way. Transactions are complete when both members are satisfied with the transaction.

dd316 is a Will Clark Collector. As a Will Clark Collector, he entered into a trade agreement to obtain a Will Clark card that he doesn't currently have. Despite posting the agreement, you don't have the card that he needs. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he would just like to cancel the trade? I'll go ahead and answer that for you... No. In fact, you specifically ignored his PM request to return the cards that he sent you - i.e., cancelling the trade.

Whether you realize it or not, there are many collectors that collect what they do for a reason - Ted included - and telling him that he should be "happy" because you're giving him something more "valuable" is arrogant.

So, I'll be more blunt now... The next time there is an issue with one of your transactions, you need to ask the other member how they would like to see the situation handled. If you take the same approach of telling the other collector what you'll do and that they just need to like it, your account will be restricted.

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post Feb 13 2007, 09:05 AM
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post Feb 13 2007, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(dd316 @ Feb 13 2007, 09:05 AM)
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Did you ever get the requested DC number?

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post Feb 13 2007, 11:18 PM
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Did you ever get the requested DC number?

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Nope.



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post Feb 14 2007, 01:00 AM
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Was DC used? If so, please provide the number.

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Received this info from dj yesterday:

"03061070000467575360

i do not go to the post office to send packages as i put enough stamps to cover both postage and d.c. because of this d.c. unfortunately "tracks" when the package arrives as everyone i've traded with on here can attest."



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post Feb 15 2007, 07:12 PM
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dj_4dig,

Please also confirm that you received what dd316 sent to you.

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