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post Jul 26 2010, 11:47 PM
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Agreed! Thanks for the sale, Ankesh.


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Payment mailed today.


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post Jul 31 2010, 05:19 PM
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I received the $ and sent the Steve Smith out earlier today.


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post Aug 2 2010, 01:55 PM
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Received. Transaction complete.


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post Aug 2 2010, 01:58 PM
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Although, I did receive a PM from Ankesh saying the card booked for $40. When I received the card I saw that he lied and that it actually books $25. I am not satisfied after viewing the BV. I also received the wrong card as noted in the original post. Instead of receiving a National Treasures Dual GU/Auto, I received a Leaf Limited Dual GU/Auto.


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An e-mail and PM reminder to update the status of this transaction were just sent to coltsfan23.


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QUOTE(dekno2 @ Aug 2 2010, 01:05 PM)
An e-mail and PM reminder to update the status of this transaction were just sent to coltsfan23.
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QUOTE(ronaldinho0003 @ Aug 2 2010, 12:58 PM)
Although, I did receive a PM from Ankesh saying the card booked for $40. When I received the card I saw that he lied and that it actually books $25. I am not satisfied after viewing the BV. I also received the wrong card as noted in the original post. Instead of receiving a National Treasures Dual GU/Auto, I received a Leaf Limited Dual GU/Auto.
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I told you that I did not have a Beckett handy as I haven't bought from them in years, but I would estimate that it'd be 40. Regardless, I generally go by SV as BV is largely irrelevant and my price was around what it goes for. I am sorry if you feel that I misled you, as that was never my intention.

Also, I may have mixed up the company, that is my bad. However, multiple times, I showed you a scan of the item you were receiving. The scan of the item you were receiving was the exact item you did end up getting.


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post Aug 2 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(coltsfan23 @ Aug 2 2010, 04:59 PM)
I told you that I did not have a Beckett handy as I haven't bought from them in years, but  I would estimate that it'd be 40. Regardless, I generally go by SV as BV is largely irrelevant and my price was around what it goes for. I am sorry if you feel that I misled you, as that was never my intention.

Also, I may have mixed up the company, that is my bad. However, multiple times, I showed you a scan of the item you were receiving. The scan of the item you were receiving was the exact item you did end up getting.
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Obviously we do not have the same views regarding BV and SV. I do feel misled though. First, after the card was purchased, and agreed to in this transaction thread, you notified me that the card was not numbered out of #/81 it was #/89. Next, expecting to receive a National Treasures autograph (which would have a better BV or SV), I received a Leaf Limited autograph (which obviously, books and sells less than NT). Last, I've also done the research. You stated earlier that your price was around what 2007 Steve Smith autographs usually sell for. It's funny that I cannot find a Steve Smith GU/Autograph from 2007 (same level of brand) in the completed listings that sells for around $17 dlvd. I'm upset with your lack of honesty throughout this transaction.


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QUOTE(ronaldinho0003 @ Aug 2 2010, 05:11 PM)
Obviously we do not have the same views regarding BV and SV. I do feel misled though. First, after the card was purchased, and agreed to in this transaction thread, you notified me that the card was not numbered out of #/81 it was #/89. Next, expecting to receive a National Treasures autograph (which would have a better BV or SV), I received a Leaf Limited autograph (which obviously, books and sells less than NT). Last, I've also done the research. You stated earlier that your price was around what 2007 Steve Smith autographs usually sell for. It's funny that I cannot find a Steve Smith GU/Autograph from 2007 (same level of brand) in the completed listings that sells for around $17 dlvd. I'm upset with your lack of honesty throughout this transaction.
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You received a scan of the card and the company was displayed right on there. I might have misstated the company, but it was right there. Also, NT and Leaf Limited Duals sell pretty similarly when it comes to non-RC, non-patch variations.

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I believe that I was completely honest throughout this transaction. I PMed you the fact that it was /89 before either end was even sent and you said it was fine, so that's not even an issue and is a moot point.

I never stated that I, for sure, knew the BV of the card and I was totally upfront as to how the card looked and everything. I provided a detailed scan of the card and you received that exact same card. Had I been in that position, I surely wouldn't see anything wrong with it at all.


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You both need to come to a conclusion and decide how to fix this transaction, so it can be closed as complete or we can close it as failed due to both members.

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QUOTE(coltsfan23 @ Aug 2 2010, 07:23 PM)
You received a scan of the card and the company was displayed right on there. I might have misstated the company, but it was right there. Also, NT and Leaf Limited Duals sell pretty similarly when it comes to non-RC, non-patch variations.

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I believe that I was completely honest throughout this transaction. I PMed you the fact that it was /89 before either end was even sent and you said it was fine, so that's not even an issue and is a moot point.

I never stated that I, for sure, knew the BV of the card and I was totally upfront as to how the card looked and everything. I provided a detailed scan of the card and you received that exact same card. Had I been in that position, I surely wouldn't see anything wrong with it at all.
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Yes, I did receive that exact scan, except it was at least 2x smaller. I believe you notified me that it was a National Treasures Autograph in the PM (PM was deleted a couple of days ago due to a full PM box). Thinking you were an honest guy, I took your word for it, guess I know that I should not of now. You PM'ed me notifying me that the card was #/89 AFTER I had agreed to the transaction. Therefore, if I would've gone back and said I wasn't satisfied now that new information had arisen, we would've had to fail the transaction because we had both agreed already. A failed transaction was one thing I did not want to see. PM sent.


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Ankesh and I have been exchanging PM's the past two days. I keep asking him in many different ways how we can resolve this, and he has never directly answered any of my questions. Still trying to work out a deal, it's beginning to get more frusterating than it needs to be.


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QUOTE(ronaldinho0003 @ Aug 3 2010, 10:20 PM)
Ankesh and I have been exchanging PM's the past two days. I keep asking him in many different ways how we can resolve this, and he has never directly answered any of my questions. Still trying to work out a deal, it's beginning to get more frusterating than it needs to be.
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I've offered to send him a PC card in return for the misunderstanding, but he disagreed. There's nothing else I can do, really.


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I've offered to send him a PC card in return for the misunderstanding, but he disagreed. There's nothing else I can do, really.
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Yes, but that same PC card was supposed to be included in the original deal (just wasn't noted here). Now you are trying to use it as back-up when I should of received it with the Smith anyways. I'm asking for a $5 refund.


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QUOTE(ronaldinho0003 @ Aug 4 2010, 08:57 AM)
Yes, but that same PC card was supposed to be included in the original deal (just wasn't noted here). Now you are trying to use it as back-up when I should of received it with the Smith anyways. I'm asking for a $5 refund.
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No, it wasn't. You, yourself, admitted that it wasn't. Stop trying to twist my offers around. As I told you before, I offered that card if you purchased the Reggie Wayne Autograph as well, which you did not. I clearly noted that and have the PMs to show that.


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QUOTE(coltsfan23 @ Aug 4 2010, 05:07 PM)
No, it wasn't. You, yourself, admitted that it wasn't. Stop trying to twist my offers around. As I told you before, I offered that card if you purchased the Reggie Wayne Autograph as well, which you did not. I clearly noted that and have the PMs to show that.
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My interpretation of the agreement was that you would be sending the Davis along with the Smith and obviously that didn't happen. I have never tried to twist your offers, I'm not going down the road of dishonesty that you have already taken.


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Enough with the arguing. Ankesh.. I just sent you a PM.

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