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THE OFFICIAL TCC FB Team HOBBY BOX CLUB - April 2010

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1) If a Mulitple player card involves a owned team and a drafted team (s), the owned team gets the card.
2) Multiple player cards go to the member who gets least amount of Autos & Gued from his owned team. Member must own the team that is part of the multiple player card. Only owned teams will be part of the evaluation.
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I'm in too, and let's not forget that we wanted to discuss how multi-team cards were handled.


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Currently multi-team rules:

Duals go to the member who gets least amount of Autos & Gued from his owned team. (of course the member must own the team that is part of the dual)

Duals pt 2 - If a dual involves a owned team and a drafted team...the owned team gets the card.

Duals pt 3 - Tie - Serial Numbered cards are counted along with the autos & gued cards.


I believe this is the way the group would like to see it done (at least I do):

Proposed:
1. If a dual or multiple team card involves a owned team and a drafted team...the owned team gets the card.
2. If a dual or multiple team card involves either all owned teams or all drafted teams, then randomized via random.org. Utilizing the three time method.
3. If a multiple team card involves more than one owned team and drafted teams, then only the owned team's members are involved in the random. Utilizing the three time method.

Let know everyone's thoughts and/or suggestions.



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I say random. Except when one team is owned and the other isn't. The same with triples. If one is owned, that team should get it, if two are owned, random between those two and so on.

I can't begin to described how I felt watching a card pulled that I'd love to have and then realizing that I never had a chance of getting it because my guy was to the right or at the bottom mad.gif

EDIT: As I was writing, Bob wrote, and the proposed part is pretty much what I feel and was writing tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Cool_Hand_Flash @ Mar 23 2010, 09:21 PM)
I say random. Except when one team is owned and the other isn't. The same with triples. If one is owned, that team should get it, if two are owned, random between those two and so on.

I can't begin to described how I felt watching a card pulled that I'd love to have and then realizing that I never had a chance of getting it because my guy was to the right or at the bottom  mad.gif

EDIT: As I was writing, Bob wrote, and the proposed part is pretty much what I feel and was writing tongue.gif
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I vote for the plan that Bob proposed.


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QUOTE(road_runner_1964 @ Mar 24 2010, 02:25 AM)
'Cause I is fast....:beep::beep:
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laugh.gif laugh.gif that, coupled with my extremely slow style of typing tongue.gif

And I, obviously, vote for the change.


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Confirmed and cool with the change...



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I'm in for the month, but frankly, I don't see the need for the change on the duals/triples.

I don't think we've had a scenario yet where someone lost a huge hit due to just having pulled a bunch of smaller autos and GUs. Frankly, I'd be a little miffed if I got skunked, we had the dual situation arise, and I STILL didn't get it due to the fact that it got randomed instead.

I'll remain neutral because I don't want to shoot down a proposal when I don't have a really strong opinion one way or the other. Just take a moment to consider, is the current rule really all that unfair? If not, why not just stick with it?


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QUOTE(WestCoastSkinsFan @ Mar 23 2010, 08:47 PM)
I'm in for the month, but frankly, I don't see the need for the change on the duals/triples.

I don't think we've had a scenario yet where someone lost a huge hit due to just having pulled a bunch of smaller autos and GUs. Frankly, I'd be a little miffed if I got skunked, we had the dual situation arise, and I STILL didn't get it due to the fact that it got randomed instead.

I'll remain neutral because I don't want to shoot down a proposal when I don't have a really strong opinion one way or the other. Just take a moment to consider, is the current rule really all that unfair? If not, why not just stick with it?
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Luckily this hasn't happened. Now imagine that a Sammy Baugh/Johnny Unitas dual cut 1/1 is pulled. you have two no name autos and the other person pulls a Manning auto. why should you get screwed when there is a fairer way to do. Could you get the shaft, yes. But one small GUed or auto shouldn't put someone out of the running for the biggest hit of the break. The thinking with multi player autos is that they generally are the bigger autos.

I think this idea prevents us from ever having to worry about someone getting screwed over. Your other hits shouldn't determine a multi.


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QUOTE(cbluem @ Mar 23 2010, 09:09 PM)
Luckily this hasn't happened. Now imagine that a Sammy Baugh/Johnny Unitas dual cut 1/1 is pulled. you have two no name autos and the other person pulls a Manning auto. why should you get screwed when there is a fairer way to do. Could you get the shaft, yes. But one small GUed or auto shouldn't put someone out of the running for the biggest hit of the break. The thinking with multi player autos is that they generally are the bigger autos.

I think this idea prevents us from ever having to worry about someone getting screwed over. Your other hits shouldn't determine a multi.


So you're against the change too? laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(cbluem @ Mar 23 2010, 08:09 PM)
Luckily this hasn't happened. Now imagine that a Sammy Baugh/Johnny Unitas dual cut 1/1 is pulled. you have two no name autos and the other person pulls a Manning auto. why should you get screwed when there is a fairer way to do. Could you get the shaft, yes. But one small GUed or auto shouldn't put someone out of the running for the biggest hit of the break. The thinking with multi player autos is that they generally are the bigger autos.

I think this idea prevents us from ever having to worry about someone getting screwed over. Your other hits shouldn't determine a multi.
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In ANY situation where a huge card would be split between two members, someone is going to feel bad. Just because we're doing it via random.org probably won't make the person not getting said card feel better. Either way, it's a form of randomization.


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QUOTE(WestCoastSkinsFan @ Mar 23 2010, 11:59 PM)
In ANY situation where a huge card would be split between two members, someone is going to feel bad. Just because we're doing it via random.org probably won't make the person not getting said card feel better. Either way, it's a form of randomization.


I'm afraid I disagree with that. If I pulled a bunch of no-name GUs, especially if they were from my drafted team, then there was a Romo/???? dual auto, I'd be more upset if it just defaulted to the other player than if I lost it to a random. I mean, at least with a drawing I had a shot at it.


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Team change requests must be submitted by April 8th as well, payment due date. So we can start drafting appropriately. All teams that open up after that time will be drafted this month, unlesss someone requests said team prior to April 8th.

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Anyone have any suggestions as to what we should open? I'd like to see some more Limited or Classics, but that's just me. biggrin.gif


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