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post Jul 7 2009, 03:03 PM
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Hi again all..sorry about the delay in getting this thread out there but it's time to get the July monthly break planned. I will post the "proposed product list" below but it will certainly be up for debate as this is just a starting point so let me know your opinions.


2009 Donruss Classics
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2007 Leaf Limited
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:05 PM
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Will be paying for both breaks on monday thanks Chris.


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post Jul 7 2009, 03:40 PM
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Would rather see an 08 NT or 08 Exquisite than 06 Exquisite

Love everything else though.

I am keeping my six teams for now, but will let you know if that changes between now and Friday.

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in like Flynn thanks chris.


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Packers for sure!

Maybe consider 09 Elite instead of 09 Classics? There have been a lot of Classics breaks on here lately, and Elite seems to pack a better punch IMO in terms of design and patches. Also not too keen on 07 Finest...maybe 07 LRAS or Sweet Spot?



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Steelers are on lock Chris
I would prefer another Leaf Limited v. Finest or even 08 Something, but I like 06 Exquisite too but not 07 Exquisite..just my take

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post Jul 7 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(faulkrules @ Jul 7 2009, 07:15 PM)
Packers for sure!

Maybe consider 09 Elite instead of 09 Classics?  There have been a lot of Classics breaks on here lately, and Elite seems to pack a better punch IMO in terms of design and patches.  Also not too keen on 07 Finest...maybe 07 LRAS or Sweet Spot?
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Please don't change the 07 NT.


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Personal preference would be to leave the Exquisite for the high end box break.

Spending 1/3 of the break money on one pack of six cards doesn't seem like a good value to me, especially since the last few CASES have been pretty disappointing.


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QUOTE(bajmurray @ Jul 7 2009, 08:01 PM)
Personal preference would be to leave the Exquisite for the high end box break.

Spending 1/3 of the break money on one pack of six cards doesn't seem like a good value to me, especially since the last few CASES have been pretty disappointing.
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You can not keep judging based on one bad showing, lets look at the previous cases including Gottabes Big Ben.

If Exquisite goes I think NT should be dropped too as thats high end as well.

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I think a lot of us that have done this for a while said a while ago that 1-2 High End Products makes it more fun and a better creak. I would not want to lose those higher end products they have brought us some of our best hits by far..one thing to consider is just getting a Case of one product I have been thinking this could work and people would probably get more hits that way

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QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Jul 7 2009, 06:08 PM)
You can not keep judging based on one bad showing, lets look at the previous cases including Gottabes Big Ben.

If Exquisite goes I think NT should be dropped too as thats high end as well.
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I wish it was just one bad showing!

Gottabe's Big Ben was the exception, not the rule, & was one box out of a couple of cases.

In Chris's 4 separate breaks last month, Exquisite was disappointing. Have a look at other Big Breaks on Youtube, & you'll see similar results.

Exquisite is primarily driven by the one or 2 hot rookies in the product from that year. Heck, people still get excited when they pull a Reggie Bush auto from 2006!!

However, that's just my opinion.

Why don't we let all the members decide between Exquisite & NT (if that's the choice?) If the majority wants Exquisite, so be it.

I'm still in, no matter what. I'd just like to see a good value.


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QUOTE(bajmurray @ Jul 7 2009, 08:24 PM)
I wish it was just one bad showing!

Gottabe's Big Ben was the exception, not the rule, & was one box out of a couple of cases.

In Chris's 4 separate breaks last month, Exquisite was disappointing. Have a look at other Big Breaks on Youtube, & you'll see similar results.

Exquisite is primarily driven by the one or 2 hot rookies in the product from that year. Heck, people still get excited when they pull a Reggie Bush auto from 2006!!

However, that's just my opinion.

Why don't we let all the members decide between Exquisite & NT (if that's the choice?) If the majority wants Exquisite, so be it.

I'm still in, no matter what. I'd just like to see a good value.
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QUOTE(faulkrules @ Jul 7 2009, 06:15 PM)
Maybe consider 09 Elite instead of 09 Classics?

I'll second this. I'd much rather see a box of Elite instead of Classics.

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QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Jul 7 2009, 06:34 PM)
Have seen Exquisite deliver a better value than NT 49 times out of every 50.

Have watched, joined, and busted enough of both to know which one delivers a better product.
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How do you explain the Big Break II? I think 8 boxes of NT were drafted before the first Exq was picked, and only 2 of the first 15 boxes drafted were Exq. ohmy.gif NT is better top to bottom...better patches, better legends, better designs.

I do like the idea of doubling the 07 Limited, no surprise there! laugh.gif



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QUOTE(faulkrules @ Jul 7 2009, 11:32 PM)
How do you explain the Big Break II?  I think 8 boxes of NT were drafted before the first Exq was picked, and only 2 of the first 15 boxes drafted were Exq.  ohmy.gif  NT is better top to bottom...better patches, better legends, better designs.

I do like the idea of doubling the 07 Limited, no surprise there!  laugh.gif
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Exquisite delivers a better value on individual cards and is more sought after (except for the cuts)

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Exquisite only has in my opinion 1 thing that sets it apart and thats on card autos otherwize its no better than products half the price.


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Once again the battle between Exquisite and NT rages on. I think this is one of those disagreements that will never be solved and no matter what the product list holds there will be people that would rather see it a different way. That's only natural when you put 25 collectors together like this. My recommended solution would be to either have both NT (if it's available) and/or Exquisite in every break. Perhaps on a 3 month rotation... this month we do both, next month we just have NT as our "ultra-high end representative", and the following month just have Exquisite as our ultra high end box. That way 2 out of 3 months the fans of Exquisite will have a box to look forward to just as 2 out of 3 months the fans of NT will have a box to look forward to. Also just one month out of 3 will we be taking a good portion of our funds for the high end stuff (when we have a box of each NT and Exq). Even this month when we have both NT and Exquisite represented we still have another 8 boxes on the list so it's not like that will take up all our funds.

As for the 09 products, I'd like to be sprinkling in different products as they release so we can at least see the stuff so how about if I change that to be one box Classics and one box Elite since they cost the same?


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QUOTE(crpalmi @ Jul 8 2009, 10:50 AM)
Once again the battle between Exquisite and NT rages on. I think this is one of those disagreements that will never be solved and no matter what the product list holds there will be people that would rather see it a different way. That's only natural when you put 25 collectors together like this. My recommended solution would be to either have both NT (if it's available) and/or Exquisite in every break. Perhaps on a 3 month rotation... this month we do both, next month we just have NT as our "ultra-high end representative", and the following month just have Exquisite as our ultra high end box. That way 2 out of 3 months the fans of Exquisite will have a box to look forward to just as 2 out of 3 months the fans of NT will have a box to look forward to. Also just one month out of 3 will we be taking a good portion of our funds for the high end stuff (when we have a box of each NT and Exq). Even this month when we have both NT and Exquisite represented we still have another 8 boxes on the list so it's not like that will take up all our funds.

As for the 09 products, I'd like to be sprinkling in different products as they release so we can at least see the stuff so how about if I change that to be one box Classics and one box Elite since they cost the same?
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QUOTE(nlr4434 @ Jul 8 2009, 10:34 AM)
Rotation idea works for me.
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